Hello,

my 73 hours game with Level 4 PC keeps crashing at 5:00 am.
no matter what i do, if i try to oversleep/ wait/ fasttravel it, it does CTD right after sleeping/waiting/travelling.
even timescale doesnt help, it just keeps crashing at 5:00 am.

what can I do? every help is appreciated! :sadvaultboy:

Are you using Unique Landscapes? If so, you should update them since an earlier version of it was causing the same exact problem.

I am using the latest OMOD compilation from TesNexus, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19370.

Hmm... That's really weird, the previous versions were the one which had such a problem and I stopped having the CTDs once I updated it. I wish I could help you more, but I am sure that posting your Load Order will help those wanting to help you (me included) in trying to track down the culprit.

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You specifically want the updated http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11162. The OMOD guy hasn't updated the pack with that one yet.

hello Arthmoor, I did install the update for Dark Forest, but the game still does a CTD at 5:00 am.

PS:
Unique Landscapes is really a wonderful mod collection, its so awesome what they have created. :ribbon:

Did you do a clean removal of Dark Forest prior to installing the update? The scripts may not have registered the change in your save. If that isn't making any difference then you have something else in your load order causing it, possibly Salmo the Baker.

What the heck is a clean removal? I had the OMOD compilation installed. now i created a new OMOD with the Dark forest only, and updated the folder stamps.
is there a cleaner cleansing perhaps?

PS:
deactivated salmo the baker, but this didnt prevent the CTD.

What is a clean removal?

Im goin to deactivate the complete UL Comp OMOD and try a run.

Extracted the UL COMP OMOD 1.5.4, replaced the .esp with the one from Dark Forest, and the complete .bsa and repacked it with the updated files. Should that be clean enough? :unsure:


PS2:
didnt help!!

Clean removal means deactivate the one mod, load your game without it, save into a new slot. Update the mod. Then load your game with the updated mod in place. Don't mess with the OMOD, just do it manually for Dark Forest.

Ok, seems I found the problem. Just before the CTD i went per fast travel from bravil to imperial city,
and it really took exceptionally long time ( 16:00 pm to 01:00 am), and just after sleeping it crashed.
or after 5:00 am.

I switched back to a save before the fast travel, and slept over this certain timestamp of the appropriate day on 05:00 am,
and it didnt occur anymore. also the fast travel from bravil to imperial city was only 1 hour. another sleep past 05:00 am
was even doin well.

thought this could be due Real Sleep Extendeds automatic timescale feature??

another problem with this mod and See you Sleep, i cant gather my bedroll anymore after i dropped it?

That is what I like to see...long mod lists! Personally, I keep mine at the max...254. Long live Oblivion mods!!!!

OK, solved it, it was RSE's Automatic timescale, it was set to the default of 60 in case of fast travel, but somehow my game got buggy.

Reloaded it with a different timescale for fast travel (20) and it works now.

thx to all!