HELP! Non-stop CTD! : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:04 pm

Hello I have a big problem with my game and I just can't figure it out. I go into the game I click New game and then it loads then immediately CTD's. I have no clue why this is happening. It worked awhile ago but then I put Fearsome magick into my game and it always CTD's at the same point.
Here's my current load order.

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Oblivion.esm
ScreenEffects.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Armamentarium.esm
bookplacing.esm
CM Partners.esm
Toaster Says Share v3.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
CrimsonScarArmor.esp
Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Spell Delete.esp
Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp
1SB_WarhammerWingedStaff.esp
1SB Soulshade Sword.esp
Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
arme - excalibur.esp
AW_Wings.esp
Assassin_Blade.esp
ACCCGR SI.esp
DMACArmor.esp
DMRangerArmor.esp
Dread Knight Armor.esp
Hel Borne Spear Set.esp
New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp
Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp
pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp
PortableAltars.esp
Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp
Shdw_weapon pack01.esp
Shdw_weapon pack02.esp
SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp
Kit Rae Weaponry.esp
Tyrael Armor.esp
Underworld Armor.esp
Wyrmfang.esp
EY_BM_Armory.esp
Nightshade_Armor.esp
Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
(DC) Sutch Reborn.esp
GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp
LetThePeopleDrink.esp
Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
ElsweyrAnequina.esp
road+bridges.esp
NRB4+LtPD Patch.esp
West Roads.esp
bartholm.esp
AutoBookPlacer.esp
Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp
Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
Werewolf-Legends.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Disenchant.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
SM_EnchantStaff.esp
MidasSpells.esp
attack and hide easier v2.1.esp
RenGuardOverhaul.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Denock Arrows.esp
Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp
Elves Of Lineage II.esp
TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
DALineage2Elves.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicBonus.esp
Syc_LongerNightsforVampires.esp
GW71_Life_Detect.esp
ScreenControls.esp
WNewShockBoltEffects20.esp
NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
FormID Finder4.esp
PoisonPack1.esp
PoisonPack2.esp
Necromancy Books.esp
DimensionalPouch-1.0.esp
Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp
Alluring Potion Bottles.esp
Arme's Excalibur Update.esp
Arch-Angel.esp
MjolnirAuthenticated.esp
Wm-Portable-Coffins.esp
FearsomeMagicka.esp
MergedMaps.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

EDIT: also i am not the best at wrye yet. The way I make a bashed patch is I go into wrye and unclick all the green names and other ones that are supposed to be unclicked then I "rebuild patch" and make all my tweaks I want and then click ok.

EDIT EDIT: I also use BOSS but that doesn't seem to help much.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:06 am

The way I make a bashed patch is I go into wrye and unclick all the green names and other ones that are supposed to be unclicked then I "rebuild patch" and make all my tweaks I want and then click ok.

EDIT EDIT: I also use BOSS but that doesn't seem to help much.

Do you actually import anything into the Bashed Patch?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:37 pm

It worked awhile ago but then I put Fearsome magick into my game and it always CTD's at the same point.

That would probably be a good place to start then. Do you meet all the requirements for it?:

Requirements: SHIVERING ISLES PATCH v1.2.0416, Oblivion Script Extender (OBSE) v0018 beta 6, Screen Effects 1.0, Pluggy v132, RefStuff, ALGOHOL v0.11

As you're using Wrye Bash, post your load order via it, as it gives version numbers as well: Right-click File-header > List mods > Paste

Also, why do you have Armamentarium.esm when you don't have any esp's for it? Not that it would cause crashes.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:21 pm

You are supposed to check everything in the Bash mod list, and then right-click on the Bashed Patch to rebuild. If somethings are not to be checked, Bash will uncheck them now by asking you (answer Yes). Then in the import options, select all that can be imported (there are specific instructions for FCOM, but you don't have that). Later, if some mod esp is import only, those can be deactivated, but you need not bother with your comparitively small mod list.

Also, your BOSS isn't working right - merged maps should be the last esp, and not before the bashed patch. Do you have the latest masterlist for BOSS?

Also, do you run TES4lodgen?

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:21 pm

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  ScreenEffects.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]03  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]04  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]05  CM Partners.esm06  Toaster Says Share v3.esm07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp08  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp09  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0A  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0B  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]++  Hear-Me-Not.esp0C  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp0D  CrimsonScarArmor.esp0E  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp0F  Reznod_Mannequin.esp10  Spell Delete.esp11  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp**  Book Jackets DLC.esp12  1SB_WarhammerWingedStaff.esp13  1SB Soulshade Sword.esp14  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp15  arme - excalibur.esp16  AW_Wings.esp  [Version 1]17  Assassin_Blade.esp18  ACCCGR SI.esp++  Blade Of Woe Replacer.esp19  DMACArmor.esp1A  DMRangerArmor.esp1B  Dread Knight Armor.esp1C  Hel Borne Spear Set.esp1D  New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp1E  Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp1F  pale_rider's Armory of the Berserker.esp20  PortableAltars.esp21  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp22  Shdw_weapon pack01.esp23  Shdw_weapon pack02.esp24  SK_Berserk_v0.6.esp25  Kit Rae Weaponry.esp26  Tyrael Armor.esp27  Underworld Armor.esp28  Wyrmfang.esp29  EY_BM_Armory.esp++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]2A  Nightshade_Armor.esp2B  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp2C  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp2D  GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp2E  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]2F  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp30  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp31  ElsweyrAnequina.esp32  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.6]33  NRB4+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]34  West Roads.esp35  bartholm.esp36  AutoBookPlacer.esp++  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]37  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp38  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp++  NPC Static Level.esp39  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]3A  Werewolf-Legends.esp3B  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp3C  Disenchant.esp3D  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]3E  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]3F  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  bgMagicEV_Conjuration_for_Supreme_Magicka.esp  [Version 1.5]40  MidasSpells.esp41  attack and hide easier v2.1.esp42  RenGuardOverhaul.esp43  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]44  Denock Arrows.esp45  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp46  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]47  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp48  Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp49  Elves Of Lineage II.esp4A  TSS Custom Companion  Template.esp4B  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp4C  CM Partners.esp4D  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp4E  CM Partners NPC.esp4F  CM Partners More NPCs.esp50  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp51  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp52  DALineage2Elves.esp53  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]54  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]55  Syc_LongerNightsforVampires.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]56  GW71_Life_Detect.esp57  ScreenControls.esp58  WNewShockBoltEffects20.esp59  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]5A  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 3.2]++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp5B  FormID Finder4.esp++  Leviathan Soul Gems Abridged.esp++  Taller Wood Elves.esp5C  PoisonPack1.esp5D  PoisonPack2.esp5E  Necromancy Books.esp++  passive wildlife.esp5F  DimensionalPouch-1.0.esp60  Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp61  All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp62  Alluring Potion Bottles.esp63  Arme's Excalibur Update.esp64  Arch-Angel.esp65  MjolnirAuthenticated.esp66  Wm-Portable-Coffins.esp67  FearsomeMagicka.esp68  MergedMaps.esp69  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Do you actually import anything into the Bashed Patch?

yes When I click rebuild bash then a window comes up and I check all the ones I need.

That would probably be a good place to start then. Do you meet all the requirements for it?:

yes. I made sure that I had all the requirements I needed.

Also, why do you have Armamentarium.esm when you don't have any esp's for it? Not that it would cause crashes.

oops. I must have deleted that along with the OOO patch (which I did not need)

You are supposed to check everything in the Bash mod list, and then right-click on the Bashed Patch to rebuild. If somethings are not to be checked, Bash will uncheck them now by asking you (answer Yes). Then in the import options, select all that can be imported (there are specific instructions for FCOM, but you don't have that). Later, if some mod esp is import only, those can be deactivated, but you need not bother with your comparitively small mod list.

I thought you were supposed to uncheck the mods with green names and then rebuild?

Also, your BOSS isn't working right - merged maps should be the last esp, and not before the bashed patch. Do you have the latest masterlist for BOSS?

oh....I thought that the bashed patch was supposed to be last in your load order?

Also, do you run TES4lodgen?

......I guess I forgot to run that since I started using Wrye. Would that cause a CTD?

Thank you everyone who has offered suggestions to someone who thinks he knows what he's doing. :icecream:

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:42 pm

Only other thing I can suggest is making sure you have the latest http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/data/boss-oblivion/masterlist.txt?spec=svn1355&r=1355 as your LO seems a bit weird towards the end. :foodndrink:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:46 pm

Only other thing I can suggest is making sure you have the latest http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/source/browse/data/boss-oblivion/masterlist.txt?spec=svn1355&r=1355 as your LO seems a bit weird towards the end. :foodndrink:

OH! I realized why that is. Its because:
Leviathan Soul Gems Abridged.esp
++ Taller Wood Elves.esp
5C PoisonPack1.esp
5D PoisonPack2.esp
5E Necromancy Books.esp
++ passive wildlife.esp
5F DimensionalPouch-1.0.esp
60 Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
61 All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp
62 Alluring Potion Bottles.esp
63 Arme's Excalibur Update.esp
64 Arch-Angel.esp
65 MjolnirAuthenticated.esp
66 Wm-Portable-Coffins.esp

aren't recognized by BOSS so they are just put at the end.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:38 pm

OH! I realized why that is. Its because:Leviathan Soul Gems Abridged.esp
++ Taller Wood Elves.esp
5C PoisonPack1.esp
5D PoisonPack2.esp
5E Necromancy Books.esp
++ passive wildlife.esp
5F DimensionalPouch-1.0.esp
60 Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp
61 All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp
62 Alluring Potion Bottles.esp
63 Arme's Excalibur Update.esp
64 Arch-Angel.esp
65 MjolnirAuthenticated.esp
66 Wm-Portable-Coffins.esp

aren't recognized by BOSS so they are just put at the end.

rearrange them - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=load_order#LOTemplate

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:02 am

Thanks Guys and Gals for all of your help but I think I am just going to do a reinstall on oblivion and hopefully that will solve it. But really thanks everyone for your help even if I couldn't figure it out I appreciate it.