Help with 100% chameleon gear?

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:08 pm

Help with 100% chameleon gear? What is the EASIEST way to obtain this? I already have access to the enchanting altar.
Can I enchant already enchanted items with chameleon?
And should I save money to buy the hands of midnight from the guy in the dark brotherhood before I have to kill him?

thanks :D
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Marie
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:17 am

1. Help with 100% chameleon gear? What is the EASIEST way to obtain this? I already have access to the enchanting altar.
2. Can I enchant already enchanted items with chameleon?
3. And should I save money to buy the hands of midnight from the guy in the dark brotherhood before I have to kill him?

thanks :D


1. Get a chameleon spell and the illusion skill to cast it. Get 5 grand soul gems. Learn how, then turn them into black soul gems. Fill them with easy to kill bandit souls. Enchant 5 items of apparel at the alters with 20% chameleon each (takes 1300 gold for each one).

2. No. You cannot unenchant or add enchantments to already enchanted items.

3. No. The chameleon enchantment is too weak.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:59 pm

Use five pieces of clothing / armour with grand souls / sigil stones.

Nope one enchantment effect per item.

Maybe, but its pricey and has a nasty draw back during daylight.

Edit: Ninja'd and with better info, nice one acadian I am humbled.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:13 pm

1. Get a chameleon spell and the illusion skill to cast it. Get 5 grand soul gems. Learn how, then turn them into black soul gems. Fill them with easy to kill bandit souls. Enchant 5 items of apparel at the alters with 20% chameleon each (takes 1300 gold for each one).

2. No. You cannot unenchant or add enchantments to already enchanted items.

3. No. The chameleon enchantment is too weak.


thanks, found out how to get the grand souls and turn them.
Where do I get the 20% chameleon spell?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:40 pm

You just need a chameleon spell of any %.

Then go get your soul gems fill them with souls, take them to the enchant alter in the university and click on the chameleon effect write a name in the top.
Violla you have your chameleon garb.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:34 am

You just need a chameleon spell of any %.

Then go get your soul gems fill them with souls, take them to the enchant alter in the university and click on the chameleon effect write a name in the top.
Violla you have your chameleon garb.


don't I need a 20% spell? to get 100%?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:32 pm

Sorry no the soul in the gem is what gives you the % when enchanting.

The spell you have in your magic menu has no effect, you just need the ability the spell gives re: Chameleon in your menu to enchant an item with that ability ( again chameleon ).

So simply just take a grand soul gem with a grand soul in it, to the alter when you have bought any chameleon spell and you will have the highest % possible when you enchant.

Then just repeat untill you get to 100%.

Note 75% to 80% with a 100 in sneak is all you will really need, as few events even in broad daylight will negate the effect as long as you sneak.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 am

don't I need a 20% spell? to get 100%?


No. You need any chameleon spell that you have the skill and magicka to cast. THAT is what enables the effect to be available at the enchanting altar. So, you need a skill of at least 50 in illusion and to own a chameleon spell to meet the requirements to see it at the altar. You can buy a fairly basic chameleon spell from Ita Rienus at the Bravil Mages guild.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Enchanting#Enchanting_using_Altars

The magnitude you get at the enchanting altar is dependant only upon the soul used to enchant. A grand soul will give you 20% chameleon.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:01 pm

No. You need any chameleon spell that you have the skill and magicka to cast. THAT is what enables the effect to be available at the enchanting altar. So, you need a skill of at least 50 in illusion and to own a chameleon spell to meet the requirements to see it at the altar. You can buy a fairly basic chameleon spell from Ita Rienus at the Bravil Mages guild.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Enchanting#Enchanting_using_Altars

The magnitude you get at the enchanting altar is dependant only upon the soul used to enchant. A grand soul will give you 20% chameleon.


so this is basically what I do?
get 5 grand soul gem
put on necromancer altar to make dark soul gem
fill it up fully
then enchant?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:56 pm

or you can buy grand gems with grand souls, granted they are hard to find. or you could soul trap 5 creatures with grand souls
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:08 pm

I'd suggest getting two Transcendent sigil stones from Oblivion gates (highest level stone, after level 17) and using two grand soul gems. That way you only need 4 pieces of clothing, not 5.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:19 am

I have had characters with 120% chameleon spotted by forest creatures from a surprising long way away. Chameleon can be pumped up to 200% using a combination of enchantments, spells, and potions.

My point is, 100% chameleon is still a little iffy which may add some challenge to the game. I have seen people claim that it ruined the game for them using chameleon.

Sarrah only used it to teach rude townspeople a lesson. She would hit them in the hip pocket with a flare spell from under her cloaking and laugh as they ran around like their pants were on fire.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:55 pm

I have had characters with 120% chameleon spotted by forest creatures from a surprising long way away. Chameleon can be pumped up to 200% using a combination of enchantments, spells, and potions.

My point is, 100% chameleon is still a little iffy which may add some challenge to the game. I have seen people claim that it ruined the game for them using chameleon.

Sarrah only used it to teach rude townspeople a lesson. She would hit them in the hip pocket with a flare spell from under her cloaking and laugh as they ran around like their pants were on fire.


That's not possible unless some mod is doing it. 100% Chameleon makes you completely undetectable to everything in the game. That's the entire purpose of the effect; it decreases your detection and at 100% you are undetectable. If you were detected, either you did not have 100% as you thought you did (which happens) or a mod is causing it somehow.

Also, anything beyond 100% is wasted and is not calculated anywhere for anything in the game.

Really, even Invisibility is enough. I have stood in a group of 3-4 enemies with Invisibilty as part of my spell chain and drained or blasted the life out of everything (Spider Daedra, Dremora, etc in Oblvion gates... loads of fun).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:50 pm

Help with 100% chameleon gear? What is the EASIEST way to obtain this? I already have access to the enchanting altar.
Can I enchant already enchanted items with chameleon?
And should I save money to buy the hands of midnight from the guy in the dark brotherhood before I have to kill him?

thanks :D



The quickest way to raise it to 100% is to find a Ring Of Shadows and then while wearing cast the spell Cloak. Thats the quickest. other than that u haveta have the Wizards Tower DLC or get all the recommendations from the mages guilds to gains access to the arcane university so u have access to item enchantment. Grab 4 or 5 grand soul gems and go to town. I warn you that your Illusion skill has to be pretty might if not maxed out to create it. I might be wrong about that I'm not ure its been awhile. But the Ring of Shadows and the Cloak spell is most def the quickest way to get 100% Chamelon and it is truly badass. U can walk around and do wahtever and no even knws your there.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:20 pm

Here's what there is to work with.

  • Grand Ring of Shadows: 30%
  • Ring of Shadows: 25%
  • Ring of Khajiiti: 35%
  • Transcendent Sigil Stone: 30%
  • Grand Soul Gem: 20%
  • Black Soul Gem: 20%

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