i cant seem to find the cause of the problem. i tried looking in tes4edit but i dont know the coordinates of the area. heres my mod list if anyone has had this issue before. thanks in advance.

edit: for some reason codebox doesnt seem to work anymore so sorry for the long post.

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Koi Addon.esp1C  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1D  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]1E  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]1F  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp20  Harvest[Containers].esp21  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp22  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp23  WAC - Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]24  Choices and Consequences.esp25  Landmarks, w Wells.esp  [Version 1.11]26  HouseMapMarkersOnlyBought.esp27  sr_super_hotkeys.esp28  DLCHorseArmor.esp29  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2A  DLCOrrery.esp2B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]2C  DLCVileLair.esp2D  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2F  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp31  DBShadowSet_NE.esp32  KDDwemerSpectacles.esp33  mnp Nighteye Goggles.esp34  Nighteye Glasses.obse.esp35  Unlimited Wear.esp36  DLCThievesDen.esp37  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]38  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]39  MALO - Guild Tweaks.esp3A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]3B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]3C  OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp  [Version 1.32.Final]3D  MALO - Clutter Replacer.esp3E  MALO - Vendor Additions.esp3F  MALO - Loot Tweaks.esp40  MALO - Loot Tweaks DCRP.esp41  WAC.esp42  WAC - OverSpawn.esp43  WAC - TCOS.esp44  WAC - TCOS Shops.esp  [Version 03]45  WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp46  WAC - 8th Gate.esp47  WAC - Dead Knights.esp48  WAC - Magic.esp49  WAC - Player Summons.esp4A  TIE.esp  [Version 1.34]4B  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp4C  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]4D  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp4E  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary - Tripwires Stylized.esp4F  GB_Oblivion Tournament.esp50  KvatchRising.esp51  MiniCyrodiil.esp52  New_Sheoth_Palace_LOD_fix-10076.esp53  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp54  Side's Sailing Ships.esp55  Side's Sailing Ships (COBL).esp56  TheElderCouncil.esp57  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp58  24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp59  DLCfrostcrag.esp5A  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp5B  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.2]5C  MannimarcoRevisited.esp5D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5E  xulStendarrValley.esp5F  xulTheHeath.esp60  XulEntiusGorge.esp61  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3]62  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp63  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp64  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.1]65  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3]66  xulCloudtopMountains.esp67  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]68  xulPantherRiver.esp69  xulRiverEthe.esp6A  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6B  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.1]6C  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 2.1.1]6D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]6E  Ayelid Wells.esp6F  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 3.]70  CUO_Dwemer.esp71  CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp72  CUO_MerchantUpdate_SAFE.esp73  CUO_NewFactionDialog_SAFE.esp74  CUO_BadGuy_Specific_Loot_DIRTY.esp75  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.1]++  Essential_Trainers-8374.esp76  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp77  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp78  ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp79  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.0]7A  Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp  [Version 1.1]7B  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]7C  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]7D  Reset Your Status Page.esp  [Version 0.0.8]7E  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp7F  Silgrad_Tower_T.esp80  talkwithyourhands2.esp81  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]82  Wrye Shivering.esp  [Version 08]83  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp84  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]85  Kobu's Skip Intro Mod.esp86  MQSDone.esp87  RealisticFatigue.esp88  RealisticHealth.esp89  RealisticForceLow.esp8A  RealisticMagicForceLow.esp8B  Vampire Ashes.esp8C  Addendum - 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Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.76]A8  Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.espA9  CM Partners.espAA  CM Partners NPC.espAB  CM Partners More NPCs.espAC  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espAD  DAAltair.espAE  Better Cities Full.espAF  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espB0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espB1  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp++  Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.espB2  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espB3  Better Imperial City.espB4  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]B5  No More Annoying Comments.espB6  No More Annoying Messages.esp  [Version 1.3]++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  BadderFireFX.esp++  BadderFrostFX.esp++  BadderShockFX.espB7  Get Wet.esp++  Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.espB8  Visual Enchantments LessFire.espB9  SnArrowEffects.espBA  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espBB  FormID Finder4.espBC  kuerteeCleanUp.espBD  Streamline 3.1.esp++  Better Potions and Poisons.espBE  SIDualWeilding.espBF  BladeCrabShieldsEng.espC0  StealthArmor.esp++  5Kals_Armor_Rebalance.espC1  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]C2  Auto shield equip-unequip.espC3  MyCavalryV1.1.espC4  MyStuff.espC5  MyPartners.espC6  TweakAthleticsNoSpeed.espC7  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Looks like some of your Unique Landscapes are out of date, don't know if that would cause a problem.

I'm not sure what caused the land tear. You can first check if all your UL mods are updated and if the land tear is still there try using http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30519 (just don't forget to uncheck all of the UL mods in the data files of the splash screen or in Wrye Bash before using land magic).

weird BOSS didnt say anything about updating UL mods. ill go check them out........thanks for the link to landmagic didnt hear about that one.

?? Why. I have never UNchecked one single mod to use Land magic...it does not say this in the read-me either? Why uncheck any mods?

You can use a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5703 to find the area in TES4Edit. The map has the block and subblock coordinates. Updating the ULs will probably help a bit though...more like a lot...

Use TDT, followed by SDT 33 (or was it 34?) to bring up the world co-ordinated as you walk around in-game.

If the land tear is at or very near the Faregyl Inn, your best bet is to update UL Ancient Redwoods. That's the closest one to that area. Outside of that none of them will impact it.

I don't see anything I recognize as making changes in that area so if you can't find it with tes4edit, try land magic - without unchecking anything. You don't want to uncheck stuff or it will produce a land patch that itself generates tears.

Its only until land magic creates the LandMagicPatch.esm so it dose not patch up the UL mods, then you can check back the UL mods. The reason was that in Ancient Yews there a river and most of the river was buried in 9 feet of land (if you want I could get a picture if you don't know what I mean or to understand better). Now I'm not sure that it affected the other ULs but its just to be safe and not have to worry about rebuilding the land magic patch.

i downloaded and installed the UL omod and the comp patches so now i jsut have to wait for defrag to see if it works.

The problem with that, though, is the the patch is going to be fixing tears based on a UL-less landscape. When it's plugged in to the game, the landscape's going to be different than the program thought it was. As Arthmoor said, this can lead to yet more tears, and the irony of a land patch that creates new land tears.

Land Magic has some problems with UL compatibility patches as well, it won't generate the patch, it just errors for some reason. So I've had no choice but to disable all of my UL patches....probably best put this in the Land Magic thread though...

Thats odd because when I created the land patch without unchecking anything I had a river buried in Ancient Yews. I then unchecked Ancient Yews and rebuilt the patch and it was not buried and normal. I'm NOT saying that your lying and making up stuff, Its just weird that it happened and that I fixed it by unchecking Ancient Yews and had no problems.

You have to update to the latest version (0.3b I think) since that was actually a bug in landmagic. I already reported it and it got taken care of

i see a .3 but no .3b are you referring to the .2b version?

Nice B) I only have v0.3 I checked on TesNexus and found only V0.3 to be the latest there.

still there. all new UL and patches, BOSS sorted and bash patched and land magickifyed. ill have to use the TDT commands and see if something pops up from another mod.

Version 0.3 should be it then. That one runs fine and blows through everything in the load order, including the UL patches it tripped over before.

i must not be getting this or something. i used the sdt thing and found it its in the wilderness 3, 0 cell. just west of faregyl which is in the 4,0 cell. i went into tesedit and checked under cells block 0 sublock 3 and 4 but didnt see any mention of great forest or faregyl in for that matter. since i wasnt sure which mods might be doing it i have them all checked. its only on specific cell cause no matter what direction i come from it changes immediatly to 0, 3 when i fall into it. am i reading the tes4 cell thing wrong or am i supposed to be looking under something else.

kind of funny how ive used tesedit extensively for changing mods but nothing outside. sort of how i have built over 20 computers but barely know how to use email.

Hmm I dunno, you can install Arthmoor's Faregyl mod and just hope it covers it up :hehe:

Awesome Arthmoor, You're always so on top of things around here! *Admires*