Help with a warning that I'm now getting : III

» Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:25 pm

I'm troubleshooting an error message that started popping up in my game in the past week or so. I have removed recently added mods from my load order to test if one of them might be the cause, but I still get the following message "Model Load Error: Meshes\Ex_Galleon_02.NIF cannot load file in Meshes\Ex_Galleon_02.NIF.
Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF."

I did a file search of my game folder and as expected did not find the file.

I don't recognize it. Has anyone else had this warning and what did you do to fix it? Is it associated with a specific mod or is it an original Bethesda model? Should I plan to re-install my game?

When I click on the button to proceed using the game .exe file, the game loads, and I can play.

TIA.

» Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:29 am

It's definitely from a mod.
Looks like something didn't get installed correctly, or the package was missing the file.

Which mods do you have that might be adding boats into the game?

Make sure any BSAs you have are activated correctly. Because it looks like that file might from http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4854, which uses a BSA.

» Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:39 pm

I don't recognize that particular mod. My first guess would have been "Burial of a Tax Man", but I removed it from my mod load order and still got the warning.

Here's my mod load order list:

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_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
_005_ abotWaterLife.esm
_006_ Book Rotate.esm
_007_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm
_008_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
_009_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
_010_ Raym's Absolutely Aleatory Accoutrements 3.0.esm
_011_ TR_Data.esm
_012_ TR_Mainland.esm
_013_ Less Lore.esp
_014_ shrinetext.esp
_015_ NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
_016_ abotGondoliers.esp
_017_ Windows Glow.esp
_018_ LGNPC_NoLore.esp
_019_ Trainer Variety.ESP
_020_ Wyr Jeweler v1.01 c.120.esp
_021_ Balmora, Natar's House.esp
_022_ Raym's Vampire Rumors.esp
_023_ P.R.E. v4.0.esp
_024_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp
_025_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
_026_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
_027_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
_028_ TownSounds.esp
_029_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
_030_ Turn Undead.esp
_031_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
_032_ MDP - Dagon Fel.ESP
_033_ MDP - Gnaar Mok.ESP
_034_ abotWindowsGlow.esp
_035_ abotSiltStridersTR.esp
_036_ abotWindowsGlowTR.esp
_037_ abotTRWaterSound.esp
_038_ EmmasKhuul.esp
_039_ MDP - Ebonheart.ESP
_040_ Starfire lite.esp
_041_ MDP - Khuul.ESP
_042_ AragonMonk-v11.esp
_043_ NX9_Guard_LGTrib_patch.ESP
_044_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
_045_ New Lord's Mail.ESP
_046_ Magical Missions.ESP
_047_ Donation to The Gods.ESP
_048_ Clean The Mortal Life of Vivec.esp
_049_ PB_IngredientWeight.esp
_050_ PB_SignpostsRetexturedTR.esp
_051_ Looking Good.esp
_052_ Better Bodies.esp
_053_ Meteor.esp
_054_ pge.esp
_055_ Fireflies.esp
_056_ EcoAdjDaedricDrops.esp
_057_ Healing.esp
_058_ BlightedAnimalsRetextured.esp
_059_ NPC Functionality.esp
_060_ abotRainSplash.esp
_061_ abotMoveOrTakeMyPlace.esp
_062_ JMS-shishi_door_fix.esp
_063_ Djangos Dialogue.ESP
_064_ Rincewind's_Luggage_1.2.esp
_065_ The Lucky Pick.esp
_066_ Rincewind's_Luggage_1.2_MWSE.esp
_067_ Caldera Mage Quarters.ESP
_068_ Vil's Indarys_1.2.esp
_069_ Clean_NON1.LoveintheTimeofDaedra.v1.02_Abot.esp
_070_ LGNPC_SeydaNeen.esp
_071_ QTA_1.0.esp
_072_ LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
_073_ Galbedir Soulgems.esp
_074_ LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
_075_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
_076_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
_077_ Expanded Sounds 1.2.esp
_078_ Bloated Caves.esp
_079_ More Exquisite Clothes.esp
_080_ TriggerDBAttack.esp
_081_ SeriousWeather_BM.esp
_082_ Wanderers of Solstheim.esp
_083_ LGNPC_MaarGan.esp
_084_ Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
_085_ Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
_086_ LGNPC_HlaOad.esp
_087_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
_088_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_suppl.esp
_089_ LGNPC_Pelagiad.esp
_090_ LGNPC_TelMora_v1_30.esp
_091_ Scrolls and SoulGems 1.1.esp
_092_ LGNPC_Khuul_v2_21.esp
_093_ LGNPC_VivecFQ.esp
_094_ abotGuardsTR.esp
_095_ LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
_096_ LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
_097_ LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
_098_ LGNPC_VivecRedoran.esp
_099_ LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
_100_ abotBoatsTR.esp
_101_ abotRiverStridersTR.esp
_102_ Clerical Robes.esp
_103_ Less_Generic_Tribunal.esp
_104_ LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
_105_ ExclusiveFactions.esp
_106_ TheRedoran.esp
_107_ A_flock_of_seagulls.esp
_108_ Appropriate Greetings M - T - 1.5.2.esp
_109_ Chalk30-Base.esp
_110_ Master Trainers.esp
_111_ NX9_Guard_LGRedoran_Patch.ESP
_112_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
_113_ Expanded Sounds.esp
_114_ Sound Enhancements.esp
_115_ XE Sky Variations.esp
_116_ Wilderness Sounds T & B.esp
_117_ Beds4Rent.esp
_118_ DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
_119_ abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
_120_ Raym's Simple Mana Regeneration.esp
_121_ SlaveEscort_v2_01.esp
_122_ Vivec Records Lore Friendly.esp
_123_ Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
_124_ Illy's Solsteim Rumour Fix.esp
_125_ MDP - Maar Gan.ESP
_126_ MDP - Hla Oad.esp
_127_ Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
_128_ MDP - Fort Buckmoth.ESP
_129_ New Randagulf's Fists.ESP
_130_ MDP - Sadrith Mora.ESP
_131_ Bound Armor Bugfix (Medium).esp
_132_ New Boots of Blinding Speed.ESP
_133_ EEC Expansion.ESP
_134_ Better Picks'n'Probs Diversity.ESP
_135_ Birds and Crickets.esp
_136_ PB_SmallerPotions.esp
_137_ PB_SignpostsRetextured.esp
_138_ abotShrines0GoldFix.esp
_139_ Clean__JH_Enhanced_Creeper.ESP
_140_ Tamriel Rebuilt Book Rotate.esp
_141_ Gedna 101.esp
_142_ Detailed_Imperial_forts.esp
_143_ AAA 3.0 Addon - Vanilla.ESP
_144_ Imperial Presence (No SN).esp
_145_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_146_ Morningstars.ESP
_147_ dopeyNPC.esp
_148_ Flies.ESP
_149_ dopeyNPC-Lock.esp
_150_ Magic Diversity 1.0.ESP
_151_ dwemer_scrolls.ESP
_152_ Bal Isra Annex.ESP
_153_ Restored Stronghold Tileset.esp
_154_ Graphic Herbalism Extra (Correct UV).esp
_155_ ST_Alchemy_Base_1.1.esp
_156_ Dandera Selaro inventory fix.ESP
_157_ GH ES (1.2) Patch.ESP
_158_ GHE ES (1.2) Patch.ESP
_159_ dopeyNPC-Taverns.esp
_160_ dopeyNPC-Travel.esp
_161_ Graphic Herbalism TR.esp
_162_ Graphic Herbalism TR Extra.esp
_163_ Clean_md_Forge of Hilbongard.ESP
_164_ Mashed Lists.esp

I did add some pluginless replacer mods, but I thought they only write over existing files, not delete files. Wait a minute, you mention ships. I'll have to check the mod "flies" IIRC, it added sound effects of flies buzzing around and changed things re: corpses in sunken ships.

Edit: No, Flies isn't it either. Removing it from load list did not eliminate the warning. If it matters, afaict the warning appears at the time I start a new game after the intro starts but before Juib appears on screen in the prison ship or when I am resuming from a saved game

» Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:11 am

Following the clue Pluto pointed out, I double-checked the mods I've added recently and made a list that seems to me to correspond with when the problem and error message started. The list is in chronological order, oldest first based on when I d/l'd the mod. None of the mods seem to have any connection with the Jarvik mod. Mr. Swiveller and Manauser had some connection to the Jarvik mod. What would be a good way to proceed in addition to using the binary elimination method?

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RPLCR Dwemer Ruins Retexture 1-0.zip
RPLCR Cliffracer Replacer 0-9.7z
The East Empire Company Expansion 2-0.zip
RPLCR Lush Ascadian Isles Final 1-0.7z
Flies 1-1.7z
RPLCR Stronghold Retexture 1-0.7z
Bal Isra Annex 1-0.rar
RPLCR Dunmers redone 1-0.7z
Restored Stronghold Tileset 1-0.zip
RPLCR Long Live The Plates - Retexture 1-0 repacked by JLH.zip
RPLCR Ordo Arkitektora HQ 1-0 repacked by JLH.zip
RPLCR Ordo Arkitektora MQ 1-0 repacked by JLH.zip
lgnpc_nolore_1.02.zip
Graphic Herbalism 1-3a.7z
Graphic Herbalism Extra - CorrectUV Ore Veins patch 1-0.7z
correctUV_Diverse_Ore_veins.rar
Tamriel Rebuilt v1510 1-0 GH addon.7z
Tomb of the Snow Prince v1.2 GH addon.7z
Bloated Caves 1-2.7z
Burial of a Taxman 1-0.zip

» Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:31 am

https://www.dropbox.com/s/sithro9ibvai5oz/Ex_Galleon_02.NIF?dl=0 is your missing ex_galleon_02 file, JH2011. I found it in my modders resources by Dongle. It's from his Galleon Demo. Let me know if that's what you were looking for.

» Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:51 am

Thank you. I d/l'd the file for safe-keeping.

I discovered that the mod The East Empire Company Expansion 2-0 is the one generating the error I was getting. It also changed the dialogue options such that the topic "Background" was not displayed when I talked with NPCs; for me that is actually more annoying than the missing file because I enjoyed asking NPCs that question, and their responses could open more dialogue options, at least for LGNPC content. As much as I was interested in trying out the mod - the idea behind it sounded neat, I'm removing it from my mod load list.

» Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:54 am

That issue with Background is easy to fix. Have you used TESAME before? If so, just clean that dialogue topic "Background" with that and you should be good to go.