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Hero of Kvatch/Sheogorath problem?
» Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:51 am
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cosmo valerga - Posts: 3477
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:31 am
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Samantha Wood - Posts: 3286
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:30 am
The loophole with Sheogorath is that Daedric Princes can assume whatever form and whatever gender they want. Technically speaking, they are all genderless because they aren't bound to such a form. But their appearances are all personal preference. The real question is whether or not the player's validity as Sheogorath's replacement is legitimate enough as a full-fledged Daedric Prince. If the new Sheogorath (the Player) was truly granted Daedric power, then Sheogorath's form is meaningless because it can be changed, and the easiest standard to choose would be his usual appearance as he was before he was Jyggalag'd. If the replacement is still a mortal and the Shivering Isles are being ruled by a hereditary monarchy system or something, logical assumption number two is that statue makers around the world haven't become aware of the fact that the old Sheogorath is no more. Or that they keep his standard appearance in effigy regardless. I mean, you don't see the statues of Akatosh in Cyrodiil as accurate representations of Alduin, despite the fact that they are the same entity. It's a symbolism thing.
Also, OP, not to poke fun at you or sound like a terrible person, but I'm a slight Grammar Nazi. Not in the way that I do it for the simple enjoyment of mocking people, but that I have a peeve about it. Just that n is not a suitable substitute for and, and an should only be used in front of words that make a vowel sound. A lot of small things. If English is not your primary language, then forgive me for holding you to a standard of a native speaker
Also, OP, not to poke fun at you or sound like a terrible person, but I'm a slight Grammar Nazi. Not in the way that I do it for the simple enjoyment of mocking people, but that I have a peeve about it. Just that n is not a suitable substitute for and, and an should only be used in front of words that make a vowel sound. A lot of small things. If English is not your primary language, then forgive me for holding you to a standard of a native speaker
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Multi Multi - Posts: 3382
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» Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:12 pm
Personally, I think that because the player was still mortal, and would, of course, die, he did not become Sheogorath. However, this would create a necessity for a new ruler of the Isles. So I think it is likely that in the absence of a ruler, a particularly powerful daedra would likely take the position. Because this daedra would be "immortal," and would, having the staff , have the Madgod's powers, he/she could become Sheogorath in full, appearance, voice, and all, creating a new Sheogorath nearly identical to its predecessor.
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Russell Davies - Posts: 3429
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:01 am
I think that a powerful daedra in the shivering Isles would be...
HASKILL FTW!
HASKILL FTW!
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GPMG - Posts: 3507
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:59 am
This is off topic, but it's necessary to say. Is it so that people on this forum need to always say that they have played Morrowind to be socially accepted her? So many members start there post with stating they have played Morrowind and liked it, even if it's totally irrelevant to the rest of there post.
OnT: I thought that when I completed Shivering Isle my character became a Deadric God and hence he is immortal. But because he became Sheogorath he should start behave like the Prince of Madness and no one would notice any difference.
OnT: I thought that when I completed Shivering Isle my character became a Deadric God and hence he is immortal. But because he became Sheogorath he should start behave like the Prince of Madness and no one would notice any difference.
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Victoria Vasileva - Posts: 3340
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:32 am
The protagonist from Oblivion didn't become a Daedric Prince, he just received the title and his very own realm in Oblivion...
That's pretty much happens when you mantle. Tiber Septim did it too, only with Lorkhan/Shezarr/Shor. The CoC was lead by Sheogorath to become Sheogorath. So, in essence, you were leading yourself to become yourself :bonk:
But like I said, this is Bethesda's way of writing off a character so it doesn't appear again, unless the player wants to recreate their favorite hero. For example, I'd be pissed if the nerevarine turned out to be a generic dunmer! The nerevarine I came to know and love is a completely psychotic, insane, and unpredictable argonian Telvanni who owns slaves of all races.
EDIT: However, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096021-arden-sul.
Note: This article assumes that the Champion of Cyrodiil became Sheogorath at the end of Shivering Isles. Opinions to the contrary should be voiced elsewhere.
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“Symbols are important. They carry weight in this Realm, and others.” -- Sheogorath
Sheogorath may be king of the Isles, but Arden-Sul is their God. It is to him they pray, over him they fight, and from him their rituals spring. For the Heretics, he is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the realm, and of how to make it right. For the Maniacs and the Demented, he is their lifestyle made flesh. Yet for such an important figure, we know surprisingly little about this mythic hero. This is because, like a true hero, Arden-Sul no longer exists apart from his role as Sheogorath and his antithesis, Jyggalag.
“They believe Arden-Sul... was the mortal aspect of Lord Sheogorath, and will come again to cleanse the Realm.” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookzealotry.shtml
Like the Champion of Cyrodiil, Arden-Sul was a hero, likely chosen in the same way and for the same reason, succeeding in his own time as the Champion did in his. Arden-Sul, the Rebel hero, rose to defeat Jyggalag, the Prince (King) of the realm. As such, he himself became the reigning King, that is Sheogorath. In the words of the Heretics, “Our Lord, Sheogorath, is but a man” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookhereticalthoughts.shtml). That man, that hero, grew into his role as the Prince of Madness until neither his subjects nor the mortals outside his realm could see the difference.
By becoming Sheogorath, he also became Jyggalag, his “same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sporedream.shtml), the Akatosh to his Lorkhan. Though Arden-Sul-as-Sheogorath is now the King of the realm, Jyggalag will return as the Rebel to overtake the realm of his alter-ego, the King. This endless fight between the same person, Jyggalag and Sheogorath, Rebel and King, Lorkhan and Akatosh, is known as the Graymarch in the Isles.
“Arden-Sul, He Who Gave His Heart's Blood.” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookhereticalthoughts.shtml
Imagery of “heart’s blood” is constant in the Isles. The Maniacs believe that Arden-Sul died after his heart burst from revelry; the Demented believe that he cut out his own heart while looking for a traitor in the midst of his companions (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebooktheprophetardensul.shtml). The similarities between Arden-Sul (and Sheogorath whom he was mantling in the process) and Lorkhan are readily apparent: Lorkhan was the King of the world, until his heart was ripped out by the Rebel, Akatosh, who is Lorkhan’s “same-twin”. As such, it was as if Lorkhan had killed himself (this becomes even stronger when one remembers that Lorkhan was once the Rebel).
Similarities to the life of Lorkhan are likewise present before the ritual self-sacrifice of Arden-Sul. Maniacs believe that the Sancellum, a tower, is the place Arden-Sul was “first afflicted with the Grand Enlightenment,” just like Lorkhan beheld the cosmic Tower and was struck with the idea of Mundus. The Demented, on the other hand, believe that it is the place where Arden-Sul suffered a “hundred day torture,” reflecting the torture of Lorkhan at the hands of his fellow gods.
At this point, one might be wondering what Lorkhan has to do with Sheogorath. The answer, quite simply, is everything. Sheogorath is said to have originated when Lorkhan’s divine spark was removed (http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/varietiesoffaith.shtml). Lorkhan’s body became the moons, his heart was shot to Red Mountain, and his creativity -- what his fellow gods called his madness -- became Sheogorath. Jyggalag is the part of Lorkhan’s spark that belonged also to Akatosh, the part of Chaos which is Stasis, Madness which is Order. One cannot exist without the other, and, as such, Jyggalag and Sheogorath are locked in the same struggles as their progenitors, constantly overtaking a shared realm. While Jyggalag might have been a separate prince before the creation of Mundus, the death of Lorkhan eternally locked him to his other half.
In this cosmic struggle, Arden-Sul and the Champion of Cyrodiil are just parts, as Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus were parts in the divine Enantiomorph of Akatosh/Lorkhan. Dyus, chamberlain to Jyggalag, is certainly not surprised by the Champion’s attempt to reforge the staff: “no mortal may sit upon the throne without the staff,” he says, not in the least bit surprised by the Champion’s query. Likewise, Haskill knows exactly what to do. Since Arden-Sul left a lasting impression on the Isle’s mythology, it may that he is the only one to have completed the mantling process. Alternatively, the myth of Arden-Sul is itself a subgradient of the mythos of Sheogorath, with both the Demented and Maniac versions being enacted by different heroes mantling Arden-Sul to mantle Sheogorath.
Here, however, comes what some may see as a contradiction. Dyus is surprised that the Champion managed to successfully make the staff, and still does not trust him to defeat Jyggalag. The Champion chose to walk a different path than Arden-Sul, he mantled the physycal persona of the Mad God through his cane instead of the metaphysical presense of Lorkhan through sacrifice. When Jyggalag declares that “your staff does not make you a Daedra” he is correct, for the Champion has not yet finished the mantling process. The final step is the murder of the alter-ego King, and when that is complete Jyggalag acknowledges that the Champion, while not yet fully a Daedric Prince of Madness, is Sheogorath, the King of the Shivering Isles.
“Speak not of the Duelists / Speak only of the duel” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/serooftoprules.shtml
The Graymarch is an eternal struggle between duelists, one winning only to loose to his opponent in the subsequent cycle. Their names and identities as individuals do not matter, and are eventually lost to time, replaced by Sheogorath and Jyggalag in the common memory. Arden-Sul, the first of the mantlers, stands out however, and it is through him that we can see the future fate of the Champion of Cyrodiil as Sheogorath.
Yngvar the Wanderer dates the ruins dotting the Shivering Isles at one thousand years apart, establishing a precise timing for the Graymarch. Only Cylarne breaks the cycle, being “many thousands of years older than the next extant ruin” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookthepredecessors.shtml). Yngvar blames this on a hole in the archeological record, but I see it as the date of the rise of Arden-Sul. Cylarn is not an arbitrary location: it houses the Flame of Agnon, used to light the Great Torch above the Sacellum, which ties it firmly to the Arden-Sul mythos.
Like the Champion of modern times, Arden-Sul was successful at mantling Sheogorath and managed to stop the Graymarch for “many thousands of years.” He could however not escape the dual identity of Sheogorath and Jyggalag, and as he grew into the role and truly became a Daedric Prince (as opposed to a mortal mantle), he came to embody Order as well as Chaos. This is inescapable, as every enantiomorphic King must be overthrown by his Rebel. While peace might last for a while in the Isles, it is inevitable that the Champion, too, will become his antithesis.
Respectfully submitted,
Lady N
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“Symbols are important. They carry weight in this Realm, and others.” -- Sheogorath
Sheogorath may be king of the Isles, but Arden-Sul is their God. It is to him they pray, over him they fight, and from him their rituals spring. For the Heretics, he is a symbol of everything that is wrong with the realm, and of how to make it right. For the Maniacs and the Demented, he is their lifestyle made flesh. Yet for such an important figure, we know surprisingly little about this mythic hero. This is because, like a true hero, Arden-Sul no longer exists apart from his role as Sheogorath and his antithesis, Jyggalag.
“They believe Arden-Sul... was the mortal aspect of Lord Sheogorath, and will come again to cleanse the Realm.” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookzealotry.shtml
Like the Champion of Cyrodiil, Arden-Sul was a hero, likely chosen in the same way and for the same reason, succeeding in his own time as the Champion did in his. Arden-Sul, the Rebel hero, rose to defeat Jyggalag, the Prince (King) of the realm. As such, he himself became the reigning King, that is Sheogorath. In the words of the Heretics, “Our Lord, Sheogorath, is but a man” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookhereticalthoughts.shtml). That man, that hero, grew into his role as the Prince of Madness until neither his subjects nor the mortals outside his realm could see the difference.
By becoming Sheogorath, he also became Jyggalag, his “same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sporedream.shtml), the Akatosh to his Lorkhan. Though Arden-Sul-as-Sheogorath is now the King of the realm, Jyggalag will return as the Rebel to overtake the realm of his alter-ego, the King. This endless fight between the same person, Jyggalag and Sheogorath, Rebel and King, Lorkhan and Akatosh, is known as the Graymarch in the Isles.
“Arden-Sul, He Who Gave His Heart's Blood.” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookhereticalthoughts.shtml
Imagery of “heart’s blood” is constant in the Isles. The Maniacs believe that Arden-Sul died after his heart burst from revelry; the Demented believe that he cut out his own heart while looking for a traitor in the midst of his companions (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebooktheprophetardensul.shtml). The similarities between Arden-Sul (and Sheogorath whom he was mantling in the process) and Lorkhan are readily apparent: Lorkhan was the King of the world, until his heart was ripped out by the Rebel, Akatosh, who is Lorkhan’s “same-twin”. As such, it was as if Lorkhan had killed himself (this becomes even stronger when one remembers that Lorkhan was once the Rebel).
Similarities to the life of Lorkhan are likewise present before the ritual self-sacrifice of Arden-Sul. Maniacs believe that the Sancellum, a tower, is the place Arden-Sul was “first afflicted with the Grand Enlightenment,” just like Lorkhan beheld the cosmic Tower and was struck with the idea of Mundus. The Demented, on the other hand, believe that it is the place where Arden-Sul suffered a “hundred day torture,” reflecting the torture of Lorkhan at the hands of his fellow gods.
At this point, one might be wondering what Lorkhan has to do with Sheogorath. The answer, quite simply, is everything. Sheogorath is said to have originated when Lorkhan’s divine spark was removed (http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/varietiesoffaith.shtml). Lorkhan’s body became the moons, his heart was shot to Red Mountain, and his creativity -- what his fellow gods called his madness -- became Sheogorath. Jyggalag is the part of Lorkhan’s spark that belonged also to Akatosh, the part of Chaos which is Stasis, Madness which is Order. One cannot exist without the other, and, as such, Jyggalag and Sheogorath are locked in the same struggles as their progenitors, constantly overtaking a shared realm. While Jyggalag might have been a separate prince before the creation of Mundus, the death of Lorkhan eternally locked him to his other half.
In this cosmic struggle, Arden-Sul and the Champion of Cyrodiil are just parts, as Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus were parts in the divine Enantiomorph of Akatosh/Lorkhan. Dyus, chamberlain to Jyggalag, is certainly not surprised by the Champion’s attempt to reforge the staff: “no mortal may sit upon the throne without the staff,” he says, not in the least bit surprised by the Champion’s query. Likewise, Haskill knows exactly what to do. Since Arden-Sul left a lasting impression on the Isle’s mythology, it may that he is the only one to have completed the mantling process. Alternatively, the myth of Arden-Sul is itself a subgradient of the mythos of Sheogorath, with both the Demented and Maniac versions being enacted by different heroes mantling Arden-Sul to mantle Sheogorath.
Here, however, comes what some may see as a contradiction. Dyus is surprised that the Champion managed to successfully make the staff, and still does not trust him to defeat Jyggalag. The Champion chose to walk a different path than Arden-Sul, he mantled the physycal persona of the Mad God through his cane instead of the metaphysical presense of Lorkhan through sacrifice. When Jyggalag declares that “your staff does not make you a Daedra” he is correct, for the Champion has not yet finished the mantling process. The final step is the murder of the alter-ego King, and when that is complete Jyggalag acknowledges that the Champion, while not yet fully a Daedric Prince of Madness, is Sheogorath, the King of the Shivering Isles.
“Speak not of the Duelists / Speak only of the duel” -- http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/serooftoprules.shtml
The Graymarch is an eternal struggle between duelists, one winning only to loose to his opponent in the subsequent cycle. Their names and identities as individuals do not matter, and are eventually lost to time, replaced by Sheogorath and Jyggalag in the common memory. Arden-Sul, the first of the mantlers, stands out however, and it is through him that we can see the future fate of the Champion of Cyrodiil as Sheogorath.
Yngvar the Wanderer dates the ruins dotting the Shivering Isles at one thousand years apart, establishing a precise timing for the Graymarch. Only Cylarne breaks the cycle, being “many thousands of years older than the next extant ruin” (http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/sebookthepredecessors.shtml). Yngvar blames this on a hole in the archeological record, but I see it as the date of the rise of Arden-Sul. Cylarn is not an arbitrary location: it houses the Flame of Agnon, used to light the Great Torch above the Sacellum, which ties it firmly to the Arden-Sul mythos.
Like the Champion of modern times, Arden-Sul was successful at mantling Sheogorath and managed to stop the Graymarch for “many thousands of years.” He could however not escape the dual identity of Sheogorath and Jyggalag, and as he grew into the role and truly became a Daedric Prince (as opposed to a mortal mantle), he came to embody Order as well as Chaos. This is inescapable, as every enantiomorphic King must be overthrown by his Rebel. While peace might last for a while in the Isles, it is inevitable that the Champion, too, will become his antithesis.
Respectfully submitted,
Lady N
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Breautiful - Posts: 3539
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:02 am
For example, I'd be pissed if the nerevarine turned out to be a generic dunmer! The nerevarine I came to know and love is a completely psychotic, insane, and unpredictable argonian Telvanni who owns slaves of all races.
Oh
My
God.
THAT IS EXACTLY MY NEREVARINE
Now are we mantling one another or what, then??
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HARDHEAD - Posts: 3499
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:34 am
What if his voice and personality shifted every other sentence?
At first he sounds like the loveable Scotsman we all know and love, but a second later he has the high-pitched Bosmer voice he had pre-Shivering Isles. Suddenly, he sounds like the Skooma Cat of Khajiiti myth, and then a moment later Haskill's dry monotone kicks in.
Just go all-out and give him the split personality befitting a god of madness.
At first he sounds like the loveable Scotsman we all know and love, but a second later he has the high-pitched Bosmer voice he had pre-Shivering Isles. Suddenly, he sounds like the Skooma Cat of Khajiiti myth, and then a moment later Haskill's dry monotone kicks in.
Just go all-out and give him the split personality befitting a god of madness.
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FoReVeR_Me_N - Posts: 3556
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:11 am
I say he/she didn't turn immortal and just became lord of the shivering isles (not a daedric prince (Sheogorath said so himself!).) So %PCName grev old and jyggaglag returned to finish him/her once and for all, then Jyggaglag turned the ilses back into his realm... it would be most sencemaking and easiest to make... all they'd have to do is not implerment Sheogorath and instead Jyggaglag...
If they replace Sheogorath with Jyggalag then NOBODY GETS ANY CHEESE!!!!!!!!
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CHARLODDE - Posts: 3408
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» Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:57 pm
If they replace Sheogorath with Jyggalag then NOBODY GETS ANY CHEESE!!!!!!!!
This CANNOT be allowed.
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Terry - Posts: 3368
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:56 am
I think they'll just split the character. So there will be a Hero of Kvatch, and there will be a separate person who ascended to be Sheogorath. Something tells me this kind of thing happened Morrowind->Oblivion, perhaps with the head of the guilds..?
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Michelle Serenity Boss - Posts: 3341
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:11 am
It will probably be the old statue of sheogorath. But when you click on it Haskill informs you that the mad god has far more pressing issues to attend to and that he left you a message. Haskill would then have to read out the manic message in his well bred monotone delivery.
I like this idea.
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Josh Sabatini - Posts: 3445
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:07 am
Now are we mantling one another or what, then??
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Nomee - Posts: 3382
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» Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:53 pm
Come now folks. If the CoC mantled Sheogorath, he's going to look and sound however he wants to. Daedric princes change their forms to suit themselves. Beothiah seems to like switching genders now and then. Doesn't matter what the statues look like.
I agree. No one might even know that the Champion of Cyrodiil is now Sheogorath, and they might talk about him like they talked about the Nerevarine in Oblivion. Perhaps one day he re-entered the mysterious door to the Shivering Isles, it closed and he never came back, and from that day onward he was truly Sheogorath. Maybe they wouldn't even talk about him at all after 200 years.
I believe that Sheogorath will still be there, however, in whatever form he chooses.
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Jenna Fields - Posts: 3396
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» Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:32 pm
how is anyone outside of the shivering isles supposed to know that sheogorath looks any different, im pretty sure you never tell anyone you are sheogorath, and if you did they would think you are mad, which you would be anyway in sheogoraths case.
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Charlotte Lloyd-Jones - Posts: 3345
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:06 am
how is anyone outside of the shivering isles supposed to know that sheogorath looks any different, im pretty sure you never tell anyone you are sheogorath, and if you did they would think you are mad, which you would be anyway in sheogoraths case.
because knowing a man/woman vain enough to go around as the hero of kvatch, champion of cyrodill and all his other titles .. he probably went made everyone gather at the door in niben bay and bought through a whole load of evidence he was the madgod.. just to show off
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BethanyRhain - Posts: 3434
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:39 am
So we all hope that ESV sees the return of the Daedric Quests n all the rewards that they bring ( was one of the best things about oblivion) but after the events of the Shivering Isles the Hero of Kvatch becomes the Daedric prince of Madness (Sheogorath) so what I'm wondering is if any has any suggestions on how to deal with this if Sheogorath is to be included in ESV.
Simplest way (and most likely way) to deal with it is by not dealing with it. Generate an appearance for Sheogorath, who still exists for any number of possible reasons, and get on with it. :shrug:
As if someone 200 years later and facing the imminent End of the World? would be worried about it anyway..."Hey wait, didn't some guy who saved a few refugees at (...what was that city again? Kvatch, right...) anyway, didn't he disappear off through some Mysterious Gate? to somewhere nobody came back from with their mind intact? Couldn't that guy have become Sheogorath? Quick, find a painting of him so we can check this out..."
Pffft... :rolleyes:
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Victoria Bartel - Posts: 3325
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:14 am
I thought I read somewhere that the Champion of Cyrodiil, the new Sheogorath, new Gray Fox, the Divine Crusader and the new Archmage were all different people.
Or maybe I just want this to be true...
Or maybe I just want this to be true...
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Pants - Posts: 3440
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:57 am
He's all of them, hence why he's insane.
(actually he's likely to be the CoC, Divine Crusader, and Sheo, but the others probably won't be addressed at all.)
(actually he's likely to be the CoC, Divine Crusader, and Sheo, but the others probably won't be addressed at all.)
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saharen beauty - Posts: 3456
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:49 am
Riddle me this. Who else but the Daedric god of Madness would charge in head long all alone into a gate that lead to Tamriel's version of hell with nothing but leather armor and his fists...and not only kill everying and win mind you...but also not go and act any more crazy or not get scarred for life after seeing Oblivion itself at the same time?
No one would notice a change really. The CoC was all ready bum fluffin crazy, and without knolledge of what happened the people of Tamriel would remain clueless to any change in management.
No one would notice a change really. The CoC was all ready bum fluffin crazy, and without knolledge of what happened the people of Tamriel would remain clueless to any change in management.
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Undisclosed Desires - Posts: 3388
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:55 am
I think he will just become Sheogorath, his mind will be lost too maddness and he will act exactly like the old mad god.
... and, as I've stated once before, we'll only get to hear his voice out of the same statues that people were too oblivious or lazy to change.
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Ann Church - Posts: 3450
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» Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:39 am
I may be wrong but I think Sheogorath said that the CoC would not become him but rule over the the shivering ilse in his place. I'm probaly wrong but I realy don't belive he mantled him.
Anyway I think Sheogorath's statue will be replaced by Jyggalag.
Anyway I think Sheogorath's statue will be replaced by Jyggalag.
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Silvia Gil - Posts: 3433
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