In other words, the only job Elisif is qualified for?

In that case, he does us all a favour. I have misspoken

With Elisif, where does one start? She has absolutely no sense of proportion or idea of the value of things.

But she still worships Talos in secret right? She must have loved her husband otherwise she wouldn't have sent you to the shrine of Talos to place his war horn there.

It's natural that her brain is clouded by the death of her husband, and the Thalmor wish to eradicate Talos worship. The Stormcloaks openly worship Talos.

Imagine a world where electing a leader was based on appearance. I would support the Keira Knightley party.

Yes because a party totally doesn't distract from something harsh in someone's life oh and a parade! GOD FORBID SHE TRY TO RAISE THE MORALE OF THE PEOPLE! Yes Elisif is inexperience, does that mean she deserve the amount of stupid hate some people give her? No.

What I meant was her stupidity doesn't derive from being clouded from her dead husband. She's just naturally stupid as [censored] and dumb as bricks.

I'm sure that morale will sky rocket when Ulfric takes more territory because of the soldiers moved for the parade.

One comment made in private doesn't make someone dumb. *awaits the storm of evidence*

Don't you feel sorry for her though? Not only has she lost her husband, but in his absence she's forced to put up with Tulius.

Since I am Posting,

1. Elisif

2. Ulfric

3. Rubeus Hagrid because Rubeus is not a Ka-Po-Tun Agent.

I voted Elisif because She will be a good Puppet for the Empire, or a fine Vessel for Potema.

Elisif in all likelihood wasn't married to the young and freshly-crowned Torryg for much longer than the time since his murder, there's got to be a point where grief stops being an excuse. Besides, if she must grieve, she could go all http://www.cracked.com/article_20434_5-people-who-took-revenge-to-whole-new-level.html on the Stormcloaks, rather than Olga the Octopus at Thalmor parties.

Finally, my avatar is relevant

Dude at least she is trying to come up with ideas. Not even a year has passed since her husband was killed and a crap ton of responsibility was instantly put on her shoulders. Again, yes she is inexperience but the amount of idiotic hate you're giving her isn't making her seem bad it's making you seem petty and trying hard to damage a character.

Lol, not really. The common folk who lost their husbands in this war (on BOTH sides) while she sits "pretty" in her palace... nah, I don't feel sorry for her and her Elenwen butt kissing ways.

Tullius I feel bad for though. Has to put up with her AND Elenwen.

Tulius is an arrogant bastard, he barely knows anything about Skyrim, yet he thinks he has the right to just overrule the power of Elisif (not evidenced, but I'm sure he would if she disagreed with him on something). I can't remember, what are his reasons for fighting this war anyway? I support the Stormcloaks through and through, but I think there's a reason why Elisif was spared by Ulfric after taking over Solitude.

I think you should stop with that. Not every single person likes Balgruuf because of that video. People have their reasons, and odds are, that doesn't even make the list.

Anyways:
1- Balgruuf (its either him or Brunwulf)
2- Ulfric, no one comes close
3- Hagrid

His reason for being there was because he was sent by the Emperor himself. To end the rebellion as fast as possible in order for the Empire to continue to focus on the Thalmor.

Ah, thanks. I suppose that's one way of looking at it, but I wish both sides would realise that they have a common enemy.

She's not. She doesn't have an idea in-game.

As for the 'idiotic hate,' I don't hate her. Not at all. She just has no business being High Queen. Her actions would decide the future of continents, if she gets her way, and she - as a grown woman, in her mid-twenties at the earliest - can't work out how she feels about a festival. She may have better intentions than all the other jarls of Skyrim, but good intentions don't make good government.

that's probably why Tullius is such a push over and dies without so much as a decent fight... I mean... answering to Elenwen and that snooty Elisif would make any grown man want to fall on his sword.

I voted

Balgruuf

Ulfric

and Hagrid.

They do. At the end of the CW (the SC side), Tullius tells Ulfric that the Empire isn't the enemy. How the Thalmor caused up trouble.

The Empire wants (needs) to keep Skyrim in order to fight the Thalmor. They're going at it at a slower pace. The SC want to free themselves from the Empire, rebuild, then take the fight to the Thalmor.

way I see it, Hagrid's the [Numinit]

That makes sense, but the Stormcloaks only wanted to worship Talos, and seems as the Empire was founded by Talos I don't see why the Empire wouldn't just agree with them and help them in eradicating the Thalmor. That seems to be the best thing to do IMO.

There was:

http://cs.uesp.net/index.php?game=sr&formid=0x000c1ab9

A rather ridiculous reason to label Tullius as such. Thing is, he CAN overrule Elisif because it's the right thing to do with someone so incompetent for a high king. His reasons for fighting the war are rather obvious, (Shadow already said it) he was the selected general to do the job of putting down the rebellion in Skyrim. Nothing more.

Pretty sure Tulius didn't volunteer given by how it seems he doesn't want to be in skyrim.

I don't see why Ulfric kills Tullius. Surely if the man's their best general, it's better to let him return to the Imperial City as a living reminder that 'their best' doesn't mean jack any more, and that the golden days are over? Everywhere he went, he'd remind the people that the empire is nothing but a confidence trick. He could be branded with the symbol of the dragon, to make the message clearer.

Same for Ulfric and Alduin. Gameplay is a funny thing to put hand in hand with lore.