High price on Steam and no extras for pre-purchase? : V - Skyrim

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:39 am

Cheap Americans, 59 US dollar as of now, is a pretty normal price for games at launch here in Denmark, if not even a bit on the cheaper side.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:13 pm

How often does an Elder Scrolls game come out? Just buy it and shut up. If they start cranking these out every year like Madden then you have a legit beef.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:00 pm

Just think about this. How many hours do you get out of the average elder scrolls game? Some people I know have played Morrowind or Oblivion for over 1000 hrs. I'd say their games are worth 60 bucks.

But the pc version being 60 bucks is still a bit absurd. Seeing how there's no licensing fee for pc.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:19 am

dont forget whoever you buy from is a middle man and is taking profit meaning they marked it up

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:59 am

I just absolutely cannot get over how ridiculous it is that people are complaining about a $60 price tag. Every new popular game is $60. Every one. And it's been that way for as long as I can remember. $60 for a game I'm going to play for YEARS to come, for 500-1000 or more hours is more than worth $60, especially considering how much they upgrade the game every time a new one comes out, so it's not like you're paying $60 for a clone of the last game. They've been working on it for years.

Get a job if you think it's so overpriced.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:56 am

You want extras? Buy the actual version. I'm sure it'll require steam anyways, so you'll still have it in your nice steam collection.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:55 pm

I just absolutely cannot get over how ridiculous it is that people are complaining about a $60 price tag. Every new popular game is $60. Every one. And it's been that way for as long as I can remember. $60 for a game I'm going to play for YEARS to come, for 500-1000 or more hours is more than worth $60, especially considering how much they upgrade the game every time a new one comes out, so it's not like you're paying $60 for a clone of the last game. They've been working on it for years.

Get a job if you think it's so overpriced.

Read the thread? Hint: that's not the complaint

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:48 pm

I just absolutely cannot get over how ridiculous it is that people are complaining about a $60 price tag. Every new popular game is $60.

Yes but there are licensing fees for consoles and not pc which makes the extra $10 for the pc version purely pointless.

Also on topic, then don't buy it from Steam? I'm not sure why anyone would ever preorder from Steam when you can get a physical version for the same price.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:59 am

I have to disagree with some guys saying: Skyrim have 300+ hours of play, so its worth $60.
You cant value a game for how many hours it gives you or even production time, cause it is creators decision to do that way.

If it were to consider this, games like Minecraft (lots of hours), Tibia (lots of hours), Starcraft 2 (long production time), Duke Nuken Forever (long production time), should cost much more than $60, but these games cost much less.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:19 am

$60.00 for Skyrim, not a problem, unless Steam is involved. I think pre-orders also get some sort of flat-map.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:14 am

http://www.valvesoftware.com/business/. I don't need the exact numbers, it's a widely accepted fact it's cheaper to publish on Steam vs. Retail.

The costs aren't in the DVDs

seriously son, you're right in that they could make steam a hell of a lot cheaper than hardcopy retail, but the fact is they don't.

I own about 150 games on steam - I'm not exactly inexperienced with it.

The only time Steam is reliably cheaper is when they have some ridiculous sale, and they do that regularly. That's why I've bought so many games from there. Go read my post that I think is directly above yours. Stop defending them. They tend to charge more in fact. Same price exactly for me is:
- Steam pre-purchase, get yet another TF2 hat (hooray).
- Hardcopy pre-purchase, get a box and all that niceness that its nice to have, and a cloth map and official game guide (not that I'd want one).

Same. Price.
Valve want all your monies. Don't be naive about that. They'll charge as much as they can get away with, and generally the convenience means they'll charge more. Plus consider this: if they don't sell 500 copies, what do they lose? Not a thing. If a store doesn't, it has just spent a hell of a lot of money and it's all loss. So Steam will jump up the prices, and if they feel like they've milked that price, they'll just put it on sale.
Daylight robbery.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:12 am

I read through threads like these and wonder to myself "has the gaming industry changed from being the artistic expression of creative programmers or have my rose-colored glasses fallen off revealing the stark and unfeeling world of gaming exploitation that has always existed"?

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:24 pm

I read through threads like these and wonder to myself "has the gaming industry changed from being the artistic expression of creative programmers or have my rose-colored glasses fallen off revealing the stark and unfeeling world of gaming exploitation that has always existed"?

Also Santa is your parents.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:33 pm

You know what your extras are? The Construction Set. Name another game series that gives modding tools this extensive for free. Sure, Valve's Source games have the SDK, but that pales compared to the CS.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:45 pm

This. I think people forget that they don't have to release a semi user friendly program that lets you do whatever you want to a game that you are already going to spend hundreds of hours with.

Im tired of these threads 6 months ago people were saying "oh I would pay 150 for am elder scrolls game" now noone wants to pay over 50.

beths support with patches, for modders and the quality of game are all extras that a lot of companies don't give out.

Thread should be it might be hard for me to get an extra ten bucks, u guys got any suggestions.

Although the high price on steam is absurd, I do give Beth credit for this.

There have been plenty of mods for fo3 and oblivion that could have been $9.99 dlc

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:51 am

I paid $60 for DA2 in February and Civ5 last year. Lots of PC games are retailing for $60 and keeping the extra $10 that would normally go to MS or Sony. I have no problem with it. I can simply choose not to buy the game if I feel the price is too high.

I support some regulation of prices for certain essential needs like electricity, gas, etc., but I have no interest in participating in any sort of system that forces a business to restrict pricing for luxury goods like videogames. The price should be whatever the hell they want to set it at, thousands of dollars if they choose. If a business sets the price of their goods too high, the price will either come down, or they will eventually fail.

And every single PC game available on Steam eventually sells, sooner or later for a ridiculously low price during a sale. Just be patient and you will be able to pick up Skyrim on the cheap.

EDIT: In fact, I pre-ordered Skyrim and Rage to take advantage of the QuakeCon pack which contained a few hundred dollars worth of games (including Fallout New Vegas, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, Dead Money, Brink, FO3 GOTY, Morrowind GOTY, Oblivion GOTY, about 20 or 30 id games) for a total price of $39.99 if you bought Skyrim and Rage.

Also, last week Newegg was offering a special pre-order sale price for Skyrim for $48 ($12 discount)

DA2 and Crysis were $60 not because the market is going in that direction but because EA was the publisher. EA started the "trend" of raising PC games 20% in price to see if people would buy at an inflated rate, and Beth is merely hopping on the bandwagon here. EA hat rights to retail sales of Valve's Portal 2 game, and they tried to get Valve to allow them to sell the game for PC at $59.99, but Valve told them "No".

It's understandable that games on Steam go on sales (great ones at that); but this is the nature of aftermarket price drops. The problem here was pre-sale price hiking for just 1 platform.

Also, NewEgg's $12 discount requires that you agree to be spammed by their sales/promos, but hey, that's acceptable to some.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:39 am

Here in Holland it's 49 euro's. That's the price of every pc game so i think it's a good price.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:16 am

60$ for 300 hours of gameplay from the core game. That is not to mention mods.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:57 pm

60$ for 300 hours of gameplay from the core game. That is not to mention mods.

You're missing the point. Console gamers are getting the same game, so how come their prices were not upped 20% to $71.99USD for the non collector's version of the game?

It's not a question of how great the game is and how worth it is at a price per hour rate. It's simply "How come you guys raised the price of the game (in the USA market at least) for just the PC gamers?

So far, Bethesda has yet to respond to my inquiry.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:42 pm

I' arguing if everybody in this forum live near e organised first world gameseller, and do not think that milion of gamers live in country where do not exist organized
game seller, here in Brasil jast one city Sao Paolo sell Skyrim at 185,00 USD no preorder and maybe you recive 30 or 40 day after relase, Amazon sell Skyrim preorder at regular 59,99 USD and ask 195,00 USD for 2 day shipping, so bless god !!! steam exist and for less then 80,00 USD send to every brasilian gamers e digital copy minute after relase !!, and i am very happy and so thankful for Bethseda make so great game and steam distribute All Over The World instantly after 0 day release.
I ask for e bit of complaint for all of milion people that just heave one choice, Steam with a little price for that huge game.
So i do not onderstend who come here thinking Bethseda ask so much money for so hard and huge work behind a great game like Skyrim.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:21 pm

I' arguing if everybody in this forum live near e organised first world gameseller, and do not think that milion of gamers live in country where do not exist organized
game seller, here in Brasil jast one city Sao Paolo sell Skyrim at 185,00 USD no preorder and maybe you recive 30 or 40 day after relase, Amazon sell Skyrim preorder at regular 59,99 USD and ask 195,00 USD for 2 day shipping, so bless god !!! steam exist and for less then 80,00 USD send to every brasilian gamers e digital copy minute after relase !!, and i am very happy and so thankful for Bethseda make so great game and steam distribute All Over The World instantly after 0 day release.
I ask for e bit of complaint for all of milion people that just heave one choice, Steam with a little price for that huge game.
So i do not onderstend who come here thinking Bethseda ask so much money for so hard and huge work behind a great game like Skyrim.

1- So are you saying that in S?o Paulo(not Sao Paolo) they are selling the game in dollars? (185 USD).
2- I presume ur talking about the console version cause PC version is R$99 in Brazil.
3- We are talking about Steam, so consoles are not included... and i will say again: The question here is not the price itself, but the price for pre-purchase on Steam with no extras.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:02 pm

Wah, my game is $59.99

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:10 pm

I'm hoping that 1-2 weeks out, Valve will allow for a pre-load so as not to utterly demolish their content servers the day it is released. Anyone know how big this game touts itself? Will probably be a 8-10GB download, decompressing to about 13-15GB.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:42 pm

I wont be purchasing off steam. No shiny box, have to use my internet download limit, time with computer on downloading and no access to steam games while the comp in on, and high cost compared to boxed retail versions in Australia. Yes, Australia's boxed retail versions are cheaper (not by much) than a downloadable copy.

I have messaged steam previously about some of their high pricing of games informing them I will notpurchase through them as their prcing is high on some games - regardless of who sets the price. At the end of the day, it is Steam's store.

» Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:55 pm

i think 60 is not overpriced for the game that is i will buy the 150 C E so i can′t say that is overpriced 59dollars