Hi, i was just wandering if anyone could proide me with info or a link to the Histor/Lore/Culture of the Golden Saints, ie searched UESP but all it does is give me info in them in the Shivering Isles, Im intrested in the culture and history of them. Is there any? or is the only info i going to find going to come fro the SI? thanks in advance.

You will only find things relevant about the golden saints in SI. Outside, they were just enemies who belonged to Sheogorath in MW.

Ok thanks, i thoght there would have been more Lore and history/culture on them but oh well thanks again

I thought they belonged to Azura in Morrowind?

You're thinking of the Winged Twilights.

Its a well known fact that Cliff Racers are the result of a union between Golden Saint and Winged Twilight.

The most I can say about Saint culture is that they are a very loyal and Matriarchal-Military driven society. Very little else is given about them. I would draw parallels with the Dremora and Dagon.

The Seducers I am not sure about. I think they were featured in Battlespire as well, and portrayed much differently.

Unless stated somewhere, I don't really believe that the dark seducers are really the same daedra as Nocturnal's seducers from Battlespire. One reason being, the dark seducers are really known as Mazken, while Nocturnal's seducers are not (correct me if I am wrong). Of course there is skin color difference, but that really means anything.

I always assumed the Mazken from SI were the same as Dark Seducers from Daggerfall and Battlespire. Different in many ways, sure, but because they skipped MW I just figured that little things like how they were represented in previous games don't really matter. Look at the Dark Elf Queen Ben-Hur. In DF, she is clearly not a Dark Elf. In Tribunal (unless I'm thinking of a mod that adds her?) she is clearly Dunmer. Same person, different game.

I assumed it was purely due to laziness or time, as all other dunmer clearly had grey colored skin.

I always figured that not every Seducer served Sheogorath, just as Mehrunes Dagon had Daedroths and Spider Daedra, both of which are traditinally considered to be aligned with other Daedra Lords, but in Oblivion fit in to the Deadlands just as well as the Dremora, Scamps, and Clannfears.

True, but I figured I preferred the naked flying women than the purple women with puny men.

Ohhh, that's right. Thanks.

Golden Saints are the bridge between Daedra Seducers and a family friend solution.

And, moreover, Mazken don't adopt the name "Dark Seduder" themself:
You know us as Dark Seducers. A name given us by our enemies. But we are the Mazken in our own tongue, Sheogorath's only truly loyal servants.

The Golden Saints... very misleading name. M'aiq met one once and she took away my practical - yet stylish - fur helm. But maybe it was a Dark Seducer. Or an Orc.

It might just be me... but I think this M'aiq fellow is a liar.

It's been six years and I still haven't found that damn wereshark!