Honest Hearts: Plot Predictions

Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:57 am

i think the plot will be based on getting helping Graham revenge on the legion or creating peace between the legion and Graham.
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Dean Ashcroft
 
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:11 pm

I think it will involve the courier showing whether or not honest hearts make for honest actions.
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Chenae Butler
 
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:06 am

me too i think graham will be like cass quest where they can help cass get a violent revenge or a peaceful one and in the end the courier has a big choice to either lie to graham or tell him the truth about something . therefore "honest hearts make for honest actions" also if they make peace legate lanius is over thrown by graham and resumes his role as the original legate
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:24 pm

me too i think graham will be like cass quest where they can help cass get a violent revenge or a peaceful one and in the end the courier has a big choice to either lie to graham or tell him the truth about something . therefore "honest hearts make for honest actions" also if they make peace legate lanius is over thrown by graham and resumes his role as the original legate

I'm quite sure he won't overthrow Lanius
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:30 am

I'm quite sure he won't overthrow Lanius


the reason i belive he might over throw lanius is because "Also, Lanius is said to be a brutal savage, and hate the Legion, only leading it because of his respect for Caesar. In-game, however, he is much smarter and noble than a savage could be, and seemingly has no grudge against the Legion itself. These opposing accounts of Lanius show how even those closest to him know very little of his actual nature and background."

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Legate_Lanius
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Crystal Clarke
 
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:07 am

I mean DLCs won't really interlock with the Main Quest
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:00 am

i agree but who knows
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Nicholas
 
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:12 am

It'll start with the Courier getting a message. Want irony? You got it.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:06 am

Some suggest Joshua Graham secretly build an army...to help Caesar when he go back, a redemption for his mistake
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:27 am

If I was covered in pitch, set on fire, and thrown into the Grand Canyon, and SURVIVED, last thing I would do would be build a army to help Caesar. I would be sharpening my cleaver and practicing on a Caesar-shaped Muttfruit as we speak...
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:38 am

I think he'll be plotting to overthrow Caesar and take control of the Legion. Ultimately he wont be killable, because if he's tough enough to survive being burned alive and thrown into the grand canyon, I doubt some glorified mail-man will be enough to stop him.

So with him being unkillable, we have a way for the Legion to have a canon leader post FO:NV, should they show up in another game.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:23 am

Wow. If it turns out that Graham is actually dead, I wonder how many people are going to vent their rage oh, I'm sorry, opinions about it.

I think he's dead. OR, the whole story about him was fabricated by Caesar (I mean, I can't seem to recall meeting anybody who actually witnessed this alleged punishment... just sayin') for whatever reason and Graham is living another life somewhere else maybe trying to atone. Who knows.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:26 am

Well he survived it all, and a hanging in Van Buren. Chances are the punishment happened, and he survived it.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:10 am

the slaves gossip about the Burned Man, and it annoys the Legionaries, so I think it definitely happened. The Burned Man has become some kind of folk-myth, an Arthur figure, someone who will return when the slaves need him to save them. Maybe that's the reason there aren't many actual Legionaries in the final battle, just the ones loyal to Lanius (or whatever his name is). By this point Graham has led a revolt against Caesar and the tribes have gone back home.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:00 am

I dont know if the title has anything to do with the actual content.. I mean, Dead Money? Money can't die :spotted owl:
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:58 am

I dont know if the title has anything to do with the actual content.. I mean, Dead Money? Money can't die :spotted owl:

Maybe it means dying for money? Idk...it just popped into mind. It might just be the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_money_(poker).Whatever the case,there better be revenge against Caesar...like overthrowing Caesar(that would horrible) or overthrowing Lanius and taking his position as Legate(again,horrible) OR just killing Caesar.Hopefully it'll intersect with original plot which I doubt.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:30 am

I think the plot will be about how Caesar has sent troops to find the Burned Man. That's kinda intersecting with the main story, but I shall continue. I think the troops haven't been back to the Mojave for a while and are dying out from lack of supplies. Mean while, the Tribals are constantly attacking the Legion Forces to defend Grahm, when he just wants to be left alone. I hope it comes to the point of an epic battle between the tribals and the Legion Forces, when you have a choice to choose between siding with either one, or helping the Burned Man destroy them both.

Another plot is similair, Grahm is living in New Canaan and wants the Tribals to stop attacking. When the Tribals are a retired Legion force that was sent to find Grahm's body. I don't know how these would tie into the main quest, but I don't want them to, If this were made into a DLC, then I want the repuation system with the Legion or any others, not to be affected by this.
For Example, I am vilified with the Legion, so I don't want any Legion in HH to shoot/attack me on sight.

Both of these scenarios are highly unlikely, but since it has to do with the Burned Man, the Legion has to be in some of it or, or not at all. As stated above this should not tie into the main quest or ending because it is DLC, although thats only if the person making the DLC wants it to effect the main quest or ending, which is again highly unlikely.

I apologize if I mispelled Grahm/Graham or any other errors.
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:17 pm

I dont know if the title has anything to do with the actual content.. I mean, Dead Money? Money can't die :spotted owl:


Dead Money is poker term, and its give the meaning that the thing you desire is impossible to get or you will pay far more price than what you can get. so just...LETTING GO
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:25 am

I do believe Graham will be mentioned but he might be trying to create some cult or something. Maybe a new faction. The fact Honest Hearts might be/is located in New Canaan I wouldn't be surprised to see him trying to create some type of religion to himself. We didn't have any real religious factions in the actual game so my guess is that this will have some insane cult to deal with.

I also believe that we will get more clues about Ulysses and further the Courier's back story slightly.

The interesting thing is where exactly on the map will this entrance be. If people fear correctly then it should be to the east so that leaves out Mojave Outpost and the wreckage between Primm and Goodsprings (I think). Which means these are probably the other two dlc areas and that Honest Hearts will be located somewhere to the east...or north. I could have things wrong though. Anyone know?

I'm also wondering if Layla will be seen in the town (along with super mutants, ghouls, etc...) since she mentioned her group heading to New Canaan (and the others are mentioned for what was planned for van buren).

I'm hoping for a new creature enemy as well (or perhaps a grizzly bear incarnation of a Yao Guai).

So this one may deal with Legion or the Followers of the Apocalypse. and then NCR will have one followed by the Enclave

The term honest hearts however is confusing. It could merely be reference to the 2nd Mormon President Brigham and this could elude to Graham's own religion otherwise I'm sure we'll find out when we find out. Hopefully that will be relatively soon. looking forward to it. just a bunch of speculation and random thoughts. I don't expect any of them to be right (except maybe a Yao Guai).
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:57 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see him trying to create some type of religion to himself.


you mean he died at Hoover dam and then resurrected like Jesus and based on this nonsense he created cult of himself in mormon city???hmm...but damn he burned and fall from dam ...he is ugly as hell...
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:37 pm

you mean he died at Hoover dam and then resurrected like Jesus and based on this nonsense he created cult of himself in mormon city???hmm...but damn he burned and fall from dam ...he is ugly as hell...

But he didn't die there, he was actually covered in pitch, set ablaze, and dropped into the Grand Canyon. Meaning he would probably be really pissed, be dressed-up like a mummy (all that gauze to protect his skin), and would most certainly need an Auto-Doc IV. And, yes, that (the cult) would be totally uncharacteristic of him, since he was a devout Mormon, even when he was the legate.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:28 am

The interesting thing is where exactly on the map will this entrance be. If people fear correctly then it should be to the east so that leaves out Mojave Outpost and the wreckage between Primm and Goodsprings (I think). Which means these are probably the other two dlc areas and that Honest Hearts will be located somewhere to the east...or north. I could have things wrong though. Anyone know?


the eastern wreckage leads to the Divide. There is a northern wreckage/pass that could lead to New Canaan, and also a tunnel, the Northern Passage, that could lead there too, or somewhere else entirely. Doubt Graham would be in Caesar's lands, probably gone off somewhere North/Northeast.
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:35 am

Probably helping Graham with his troubles, if we are lucky. Maybe a permanent companion (hopefully), but probably not (realistically).
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Post » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:20 am

But he didn't die there, he was actually covered in pitch, set ablaze, and dropped into the Grand Canyon. Meaning he would probably be really pissed, be dressed-up like a mummy (all that gauze to protect his skin), and would most certainly need an Auto-Doc IV. And, yes, that (the cult) would be totally uncharacteristic of him, since he was a devout Mormon, even when he was the legate.


yea I know that he didn't die there I mean he can say so for the story to make a cult of himself
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Post » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:28 pm

Actually when you think about it him forming a cult would not be all that surprising. He was apparently a member of the Follower's of Apocalypse at the beginning, then went to Legion, so he has a record of having nothing against cults (which both of those are).

He could be a "wrathful god". I don't actually think he will go the route of proclaiming himself god but maybe a messenger?

We'll know soon enough since the dlc and the patch are coming in the very near future. I'm looking forward to it regardless. I ignored Dead Money but might buy it if the patch fixes things.

Still I do think we will see the grizzly bear version of Yao Guai
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