That all depends on your definition of fun. Personally, I feel there is way more for the character to do in Skyrim, compared to Oblivion. Other than that, quests are quests, rewards are rewards. Graphics are not comparable. Followers/Hirelings are not comparable.

People equate more colourful with diversity and thus we see the erroneous claims of "Cyrodiil is more diverse than Skyrim" even though it isn't remotely close.

I played Oblivion since day one (my first ES game) and loved it, clocking nearly 600 hours, playing it right up to the night before Skyrim released.

While I still love Oblivion, Skyrim is the superior game in my opinion. That's not to say that Oblivion isn't great. I think that you would enjoy the game if you went back, it is amazing what they were able to accomplish with the storytelling, graphics, and game play; and in many respects Skyrim isn't that far removed from Oblivion (though it is still a step above). I'd be interested to step back into it now especially on the PC with all the mods available.

But in the end: Skyrim > Oblivion :in just about every way.

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I do really really miss the Vile Lair expansion. I loved that place.

I've played Skyrim a lot more than Oblivion, and I started out as a big Oblivion fan.

I find Oblivion to be a million times more fun than Skyrim, but I find Skyrim to be the better game. In Skyrim, I can get more into my characters and become immersed in their journeys. In Oblivion, I can frenzy an entire town and watch them kill each other, shouting "YOU BLEED LIKE A PREGNANT COW" or "THIS IS THE PART WHERE YOU FALL DOWN AND BLEED TO DEATH" every five seconds. Of course, I can (and do) do what I do for my Skyrim characters in Oblivion as well, I just might not get into it as much.

With that said, Oblivion trumps Skyrim by a mile when it comes to questlines. The Dark Brotherhood questline in Oblivion was arguably one of the best questlines Bethesda has come up with, where in Skyrim you have the Thieves Guild questline, which I thought was so abysmal that it would be a miracle if I ever had the urge to play through it again.

My friend use to hype oblivion to me so much when I started skyrim, I was thinking "hmm lets give this a try", never been so bored in my life.

Oblivion didn't really have world consequences. Every person with a "rumors" dialogue option just said dry and repetitive things like "The Grand Champion!", "The Hero of Kvatch!", "I used to think you were a holy knight...", etc. It was all really cheap. Don't get me wrong, Oblivion's my favorite of all the Elder Scrolls. I just don't want to give credit where it's not due.

To me the sprinting element is HUGE. Even though I loved fallout 3 and to a lesser extent nv, after skyrim I can't go back to them because you can't sprint. I seriously can't play beyond a level or two, so looking forward to the next fallout which will presumably be more like skyrim in how your character can move.

Its like the same reason the gta series peaked with san andreas, simply because cj was a beast, while that russian moron in 4 was a sluggish POS. If my character isn't a better athlete than me in real life I can't do it, I can't justify fantasising about downgrading into a lesser specimen. TEs and fallout ofcourse have alot more to them than just rampaging ofcourse but I still need to be a character I respect physically. I'd like to see big improvements in these departments in the future, your character becoming faster and more agile and stronger and just more manuveurable and impressive as a specimen of man (or mer).

Highly depends on my mood tbh. Do I want a mostly snowy tundra or do I want to go to the beaches in Anvil?

Plus both games have their own strengths and weaknesses. They're pretty much equal to me since they are heavily modified.

Oblivion had better towns IMO, but Skyrim offers a more immersive experince and nicer armors. Plus Skyrim doesn't have weapon/armor condition, which is a nice plus.

It won't be much fair asking this in the Skyrim general discussion, so of course more people will prefer Skyrim.

Anyway in my opinion, I prefer Skyrim, simply due to the fact that it has decent controls, the controls in Oblivion were far too floaty and weightless, I also found Skyrim's sandbox much more detailed and pretty looking compared to Cyrodiil.

Same here. Oblivion was my first TES love (couldn't get into MW) and I played the crap out of it until the week before Skyrim but Skyrim is more my style. There's things that OB did better but I love Skyrims setting, the Norse/Viking vibe is so my speed and the greatly improved character creation finally makes me want to roam in 3rd person even though I still prefer 1st for fighting. Oblivion will always have a special place in my heart (the theme still gets me geeked ha) but I love Skyrim more.

"Immersive" is the most overused and misunderstood word in computer gaming in the 21st century. No way is Oblivion more immersive, Everything about it screams GAME. Just watch NPCs engage in banol non sequitur riddled "conversations" and try to call it immersive.

It was alright, IMO. Bland, but alright. I greatly prefer Skryim for all sorts of reasons. But, hey, it's an entirely separate game, so by all means, play both.

True but there was more to read yet not everyone who games enjoys that. I miss the detailed quest log and the screen that displayed what factions/guilds/etc. that I was a part of and my rank (even minor side quest clubs). I also miss the map which actually looked like a map not a GPS satellite...that's 1 thing that felt more immersive as it made a paper sound for the map and journal so it felt like my character was pulling it out to look at it, every time I go into the map in Skyrim it breaks immersion a bit.

I didn't mean to sound dismissive, and I wasn't singling anybody out. It's kind of an epidemic these days, honestly, using "immersive" to stand in for anything anybody likes about a game. I agree with you that the map *was* more immersive in Oblivion, insomuch as it resembled an actual paper map. There's a mod for Skyrim that has a cool looking map like that, but I've never used it because it's still kinda buggy (I hear.)

I agree with this.

And I agree with this as well. I just don't really see much of anything that Oblivion does better than Skyrim.

And this is coming from someone who absolutely loves Oblivion (it's a top 3 game all time for me).

I actually prefer Oblivion's random conversations to the repetitive conversations in Skyrim. Sometimes the Oblivion conversations are a bit wacky but sometimes they can be inciteful and they are rarely boring.

Oblivion's conversations are just as repetitious as Skyrim's. The difference is that in Oblivion the NPC banter is generic, whereas in Skyrim the NPC banter is specific.

In Oblivion, outlaw bandits in Ayleid ruins speak exactly the same banter that aristocratic NPCs speak in Talos Plaza. This frankly just kills immersion for me. And, my god, they speak these lines over and over and over and over, everywhere in the game. One cannot get away from it. More than once I have turned my speakers off when I entered a town in Oblivion, so that I won't hear those same comments about Mudcrabs and syndicates of wizards. Skyrim's banter repeats too, as you noted, but at least the repetitions in Skyrim are confined to a specific location. We are not forced to hear the same generic banter from every NPC, everywhere in the game, all the time.

Skyrim is full of arguments, disputes, agreements, between NPCs. You hear them talking to each other everywhere you go.Talking to each other, not just talking. I feel as though I am surrounded by NPCs who have real stories to tell, who have hopes and dreams, who have done things in the past or who dream of doing things in the future. These stories and conversations combine to make Skyrim feel more real and alive to me. This dialog is specific to the characters who speak it.

When I pass by two NPCs tending to crops I hear them talk about these specific crops, in this specific field. Family members have arguments about issues that are specific to those NPCs only. You hear their stories, they feel a lot like real people with real issues. After I have finished trading at Riverwood Traders I feel like I know Camilla and Lucan Valerius. After I have finished speaking to Jensine in Jensine's "Good As New" Merchandise I do not feel as though I know anything more about her than when I went into the shop.

Why would it be dishonest?

Morrowind was my first, Oblivion was my second, Skyrim is my favorite.

I bought Morrowind because everyone was playing it and everyone said how great it was. I hated it. Couldnt get into it. Went back to playing COD.

I bought Oblivion because everyone was playing it and everyone said how great it was. I hated it. Couldnt get into it. Went back to playing MW2.

I bought Skyrim 11/11/11 because everyone said how great it was going to be. Hated it until I got to about level 6 and had an epiphany. Its the greatest game Ive ever played. I still go back to MW2 a LOT, but Skyrim really is the greatest game of all time IMHO.

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What was the epiphany that made you fall in love?