I doubt it will be unique. Based on Bethesda's well-established love affair with the Forgotten Realms, I'm guessing it'll basically be Icewind Dale.

Actually I don't even care about "alien worlds" I JUST WANT THAT [censored] GAME!! :swear:

The two reasons Oblivion didn't seem "alien" to people:

1) The wilderness was made up entirely of fauna that everyone is used to seeing when they look outside their window.

2) A sign of civilization can be spotted from virtually anywhere on the map.

Trust me, even if it is in Skyrim, it will feel "alien."

Because there is nothing familiar about a vast tundra, dotted by nomadic berserkers.

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And Zeppo, they did not get "lazy". the hardware at the time could not support it with the technology for software that Bethesda was using. BTW, was Cyrodill supposed to be a tropical or temperate rain forest? If temperate then all they would have had to do is add more forest and plants. Still this would be hard with the technology of the time.

Yep, I know what you mean. Unrelated, but do you have any tips to keep those pesky minotaurs and ogres out of my rhododendrons? They're just so common in this area.

Wild blueberries. Wild blueberries and rust shavings. Minotaurs and Ogres hate wild blueberries and rust shavings.

Ahh, many thanks. :foodndrink: I'll be sure to give that a try.

No problem. Anytime. :wink_smile:

A lot of people felt that the surroundings were familiar. I'm just proposing a reason why.

Obviously Minotaurs and Ogres weren't enough to keep people from finding it familiar.

I'm one of the people who liked the scenery in Oblivion. But, when I was walking down the street, while playing the game, I was often compelled to pick certain plants out of habit because they looked exactly like the ones in the game. And just the trees and brick roads I was surrounded by often reminded me of Oblivion.

I didn't see it as a bad thing. Nice scenery is nice scenery.

After playing the next game, assuming its in Skyrim, I would like to be able to go exploring in the arctic circle and think: damn I think I'm in Skyrim. I loved that about Oblivion. I could just go out into the woods with my bow and arrow and hunt for deer while thinking: if I turn west then I could go swimming in Lake Rumar. The world is so similar to Cyrodill that it makes the world better because I feel like im in Cyrodill. Well I abandoned my usual perfect spelling and grammar for this post but what ever I'm tired.

I didn't have any issue with the way Oblivion looked, but I do agree it would be [censored]y to have the imperial capital set in a tropical jungle. Perhaps they didn't feel they had the technology to make that setting as good as a more temperate and "plain" forest. For one vegetation would have to be way denser in some parts.

I did love the forests of Oblivion, and imo it turned out [censored] great, but then again I didn't know about the previous lore

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/many-headed-talos

Confusing but it explains much.

Nice find. Albeit it the simple way out.

To make it feel more alien, all they need is for people to not be so familiar with it. I have the same exact trees in my backyard and field behind my house, I went around a lake in a rowboat for a while and without tons of civilization out there, I noted that Oblivion was a little similar. I'm not saying familiar is a bad thing, and honestly Cyrodiilic people seem to be based off of Romans, which aren't too foreign to most of us who've been to history class. If they make more unique flora and fauna, it should feel more foreign, which would be a nice change after being so familiar with Oblivion...

But they clearly responded to what people said about Oblivion, they improved greatly in Shivering Isles and Fallout 3. So I don't think we have to be too worried.

Considering MK SAID that it was written by himself ONLY to explain away what happened and throw a bone to the fans, yeah, its a cheap way out. The devs were originally not even going to explain it, which is why MK got so pissed and wrote that.

I hate this. The most unoriginal, simple way of getting out of a lore breaking situation ever. "A god did it". :rolleyes:

I mean, if we revisit Morrowind, a change could easily be put down to Red Mountain. Something like this requires thought and isn't poor, cheesy writing. Why could they not have got a few writers together for a few days, at least? It's not exactly a huge burden on Bethesda.

Technically that's not official lore. It was written by MK (who is a lore writer for the games) because he was po'd that Oblivion didn't explain the change.

I would love to see a TES set in Black marsh, or maybe the wood elf home land (think its valewood) but what I've always wondered is if TES could go back in time to when daedra walked the earth the dwemer where discovering new technoligies while at the same time the rise of the legion and tiber septim. It would mean real conflicts between not only factions but races like if you were dwemer you'd be hated by dunmer and being a daedra would be so badass. With this there could be not just the mortal world but every realm you could visit this would truly bring a multiplayer aspect, maybe a bit like wow because I'd love to see a multiplayer TES and I think it could happen.

I don't think we'd be able to give Black Marsh justice right now. I think we should cover the more "simple" provinces first. Black Marsh should be the last on the list. Followed by Valenwood. the next in the line of difficulty would be Summerset. But I think we could give it justice now.

I think I read somewhere that we're not going back in time through the games. We're following a timeline. Maybe this meant we're not going back eras, or the other way around, I don't know. I'd actually like to go back in time in some RTS spinoffs to see some wars. Could be nice. (Note - spinoff ONLY)

There's been so many awesome wars throughout the games we've missed. out of game lore is so awesome...

And you're going to be eaten if you mention multiplayer. Especially MMO form.

i didnt mind cyrodils build, in fact i loved it. Wasnt as bland as people make out.

What I like about Cyrodiil is that it's not a barren wasteland. As alien as some parts of Vvardenfell were, most of Vvardenfell was an ash-covered rock.

Seti is right. I think most of us are talking about the areas that look like Syda Neen and Peligad. With the colorful mushrooms and such.

I like wasteland. It really adds a sense of danger. Hopefully, if TESV is skyrim, we'll have large snowey/icey wastelands full of Ice monsters and Bigfoots.

I'm hoping the next Elder Scrolls game will have the same look, feel and atmosphere as TES3-Bloodmoon. Updated to modern standards ofcourse, but I still have fond memories of being the Blodskaal, doing these spiritual attuned quests of lore and legend and owning my very own meadhall

And with that I'll lock this thread, as we have reached the post-limit


Greetz,

Milt