-.- You can't assume things like that as NV wasn't made by BGS, but Obsidian. The "map" of the world in NV is quite many things. Impossible to really argue against or especially for your point of view as it is based on basically nothing at all.

Edit: Obvious troll is obvious

Even though the concern could be legit, do you think he is trolling?

Whats the big beef with Fallout NV?? Sure it had its flaws, but there is a reason it was called FO NV rather than FO 4.

I dont want invisible walls and boundaries that I can agree on. It does kind of worry me that the mountain terrain might contain a lot of 'unreachable' areas...but I think there is a reason that TES games dont come out every couple years. They know what they are doing.

Um, guys? Bethesda didn't make Fallout: New Vegas. Obsidian did. Whatever flaws NV did or didn't have, they weren't Bethesda's doing.

Other people have said this, but I don't think anyone's listening . . . :sadvaultboy:

Skyrim is the same size as Oblivion.

there is a 20 minutes podcast from back in september .. Todd Howard talks about the upcoming New Vegas.. he says
Howard: Obsidian will bring all their ideas to us.. and they have so many.. we look at them and go, well can't you do this, or what about doing this... so some things we go with some things we don't
interviewer: so its really a collaboration?
Howard: oh yes very much

and to the other question.. no I'm not saying They are lying.. Howard wasn't lying when he said New Vegas would be a little smaller then Fallout 3... (and if he made it or not.. it was still him promoting it) ..
and he was right.. except it was a lot smaller..


now Bethesda said that Skyrim would be slightly smaller than Oblivion..
at gameinformer.com Howard also talked about how they didn't wanna bore people by endless open fields.. (making it more compact)
and I'm just seeing a lot of the same warning signals..

I think I recall Todd saying that we can explore the mountain in the "ask Todd" interview with gameinformer, when I think about it. Hopefully the concern about invisible walls are far from accurate.

At this point I think the OP either can't be reasoned with, or really doesn't want to be reasoned with. :confused:

So anyone want to be my effigy for the Black Sacrament?

Or maybe the OP is just trolling.

Or, as I stated a few pests back, ha might be trolling. I can see the concern though, but I think the invisible walls got a lot of crittic. Hopefully they won't be in.

You do realize your asumptions are still based on nothing? The examples you give us a false, MW IS NOT BIGGER THAN OB! Fallout games cannot be compared to TES games when it comes to size. You do realize an area that is vertically huge and gets flattened down covers quite a bigger area than it would if it was only flat. I welcomed the change Obsidian brought to NV because not all games can be the same, that's be plain boring.

If you can actually quote that.. I'll believe you..




you lose credibility saying that. Morrowind map was smaller than oblivion.

all while you ignore everything I write?.. what is it you can reason me with?.. the fact they didn't say skyrim was gonna be a small game?.. wouldn't exactly be good marketing..


everything I wrote here is true.... deal with it:

there is a 20 minutes podcast from back in september .. Todd Howard talks about the upcoming New Vegas.. he says
Howard: Obsidian will bring all their ideas to us.. and they have so many.. we look at them and go, well can't you do this, or what about doing this... so some things we go with some things we don't
interviewer: so its really a collaboration?
Howard: oh yes very much

and to the other question.. no I'm not saying They are lying.. Howard wasn't lying when he said New Vegas would be a little smaller then Fallout 3... (and if he made it or not.. it was still him promoting it) ..
and he was right.. except it was a lot smaller..

now Bethesda said that Skyrim would be slightly smaller than Oblivion..
at gameinformer.com Howard also talked about how they didn't wanna bore people by endless open fields.. (making it more compact)
and I'm just seeing a lot of the same warning signals..

Todd Howard has stated that he loves making TES games so that some can look somewhere and then travel there so I really doubt that Bethesda will put in invisible walls like what happened in New Vegas

In truth, Todd said that Skyrim would be roughly the same size(how many times do we have to mention it?) as OB. That means it might be slightly bigger or smaller, but it also implies that they try to keep it the same size.

>Implying Bethesda made New Vegas.

If its true give us a link then. So that we can read it ourselves.

Yes, please

Okay then buddy, I'll stop trying to lessen your fears by telling you silly things like facts. Yes, Bethesda approved everything Obsidian did, from every building placed to every Molerat spawned. Obsidian asked if a thousand invisible walls was enough and Bethesda said "Better make it 2000." When Obsidian tried to make the map as interesting and entertaining to explore as Fallout 3, Bethesda got angry and told them to scrap the whole thing because it wasn't boring enough. These are lies, but it seems like these are what you want to hear, so there you go. :thumbsup:

Morrowind is smaller than Oblivion and FO3. Lie more.

That is correct. It only felt bigger since you couldn't just teleport everywhere. Stop trolling OP, seriusly.

I vote instead of continuing flaming each other we demand for sources and if what he is saying isn't provable then we leave this thread alone.

Yeah, no point in feeding the troll.
Can you please post a link to your source, OP?

Obsidian, not Bethesda...
Obsidian is a "branch?" off black Isles studios (FO1,FO2) and they just added to their franchise.