I've never played it... It crashes my game when I try to load it.

Off the top guess would be that it canonizes aliens, where before it was just meant as an in-joke for the player (complete with velvet Elvis).
Also, I hear that its plot devalues and ret-cons the original series canon as well.

Its not the 50's, its the in their 21st century. Its about their future being very close to their idealized predictions from back in their 50's ~and yeah if there were aliens, they'd be like the ones in Mars Attacks... but there shouldn't be any aliens. In FO1 there was a crashed UFO, because that was a hot news item at one point; It was a joke encounter (just like the one with http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/2/26/Fo1_Tardis.gif. There shouldn't be Doctor Who in future Fallouts either )

In Fallout 2 there were the Wanamingos ~they looked like Giger alien heads with legs and tendrils... and it was said they were not aliens, they were military experiments (like Deathclaws were).

Their existence is one thing. I mean it doesn't fit in at all. It's like opening an oblivion gate in Call of Duty.
Plus, what Styles mentioned. The point of Fallout is scrubbing the ugly nature of humanity on our faces. Making aliens responsible is just "oh they did it humans are innocent yippie".
Other than that I can't remember (it's been 2 years and I only played it once and deactivated it's file. come to think of it I couldn't finish it. bugz.). Either there wasn't anything else story-related worth mentioning or it wasn't memorable.


Setting as in the concept of the game. Sorry if I'm getting the words mixed.

Shhhh!
Your going to give Activison ideas!

If they do that, I'd call it going out with a bang. BF3 is gonna scrub the floor with MW3. B)

Horse Armor sounds bad, but MZ is just a stupid joke.

I guess I just don't get it then.

To me, it feels like if Bethesda made a DLC reference the Sputnik satellite, then people would be crying that it doesn't fit because China was the main communist nation in the Fallout world. I myself would see it as no biggie though, not understanding how Sputnik's existence interferes with China being the main communist nation for the decades before the Great War. Sure it's a mistake, but no biggie either.

Oh well, thanks for clearing that up.




Horse Armor basically sold anyways because the dynamic AI of Oblivion made it so that Bandits and demons and bears would relentlessly attack your horse instead of you if you had a Personality attribute above 60. So many players would travel, get off their horse to do combat, and then the combat would be nothing more than a race to kill the bandits before they slaughtered your horse, forcing you to walk to your destination and fight EVERYTHING along the way.

I think it was actually suggested by the players initially, but yeah the actual DLC was pretty pathetic considering the price. You were basically paying $5 to make your horse look shiny and have more HP.

Too true sir!
Also thumbs up for Halo CE Remake!
Lets us pray that LR=SI!
:celebration:

Obviously, but it was really an expansion.

I bought the Oblivion GOTY, so technically i did pay for horse armor. Had i been around when it originally was released i would have thought it a joke.

Oh, I see. That sounds like a nifty feature, but should have been included in Vanilla rather than sold for $5. :shrug:

Nothing could make me happier (other then the Barnaky Ending becoming canon) then the Devs of Bethesda announcing that Mothership Zeta DLC is non-canon and was just intended to be a "just for fun" DLC.

Fallout........+...........Inception..........=...............AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dunno, I rather enjoyed MZ and I also used the horse armor.

But then again, I bought the horse armor when it was $2 then again when it came out on disc with all the other DLC.

Every DLC I bought for any Beth or Obsidian game I really enjoy. But then again, my standards aren't quite as high as others and I figure as long as I'm entertained by a company I really like then its all good to me.

As long as Bethesda and Obsidian keep making games I enjoy I'll keep paying for content no matter how stupid it may seem to others.

If you label Expansions as DLC I'd have to go with Blood Moon for Morrowind.




This Exactly. the aliens in fallout 1 were an Easter egg. just like the bridge of death, and all the monty python references, the godzilla footprint, the hitchhikers guide references.. ect...

what next a DLC explaining the back story of the whale and the flower pot?

"Oh no... not again..."

Agrajag does not belong in Fallout either; (even though he technically was :laugh:).

Bethesda needs to admit that Mothership Zeta is not canon.

If they say it is canon then I demand that http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Federation_Crash_Site be canon and that the next antagonist should be the Klingon Empire and http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Unusual_Call_Box the next protagonist. If Bethesda truely wants to go down the road of Aliens and their possible cause in the great war, we might as well have all kinds of crazy crap.

Hell no. BF3 stood a 50/50 change of wiping the floor with MW3, but EA keeps shooting themselves in the feet with every BS move they make. DICE should feel ashamed of being with EA.


#MycopyofSkyrimbettingthatBF3hasonlinepass

No I'd say a really high chance gameplay wise, but with sales its 50/50 due to those who belive "COD OR NOTHING!"

If I were a betting man, BF3 will sell better on consoles. While the console version is the "cheaper alternative", it may sell better because the PC version seems to be more unappealing by the day because of EA's shenanigans. Consoles are dominated by Call of Duty, not to mention it has its own culture revolving around it. If BF3 wants to come out on top, it needs to rally the PC gamers and launch an offensive. The PC side is Call of Duty's weakness, or shall I say, Activision's weakness. It will not surprise me if BF3 beats MW3 on the PC side, but MW3 winning on the console side. Everybody can win that way.

lol I'd pay to see that, but only if its the 10th doctor. not a real big fan of Matt Smith or Better yet, Bring on the 4th doctor! Love'd Tom Baker as the doctor again

I remember playing Battlefield 2.


It was a good game. A lot of fun to play.
Then one day some [censored] decided that since Snipers were always complaining about losing points for team-killing whenever one of their teammates unknowingly climbed a ladder and set off a friendly sniper's claymore, they would fix the issue by making claymores only go off if an enemy came in range of them.
.....And then they decided to make claymores absolutely indestructable for no apparent reason in the exact same patch, forcing the invading force to suicide on the claymores in a hopeless attempt to capture a point. Meanwhile the defending force just spawned snipers nonstop and planted claymores freaking EVERYWHERE.
.....And then they decided that not only should the commander be able to drop supplies in for their team via parachute, but also drop in a tank.....via parachute.


And yeah, then I quit. And I haven't trusted EA since.

Battlefield has always had a PC focus. It will come down to how console players decide. I don't think CoD is popular at all on the PC. So I think it comes down if they converted enough CoD fans.

About the thread, I'm pretty sure MZ was just for fun with all their fancy gizmos and funny story. I liked the Japanese guy.

EDIT: I hope they bring some stuff back from Battlefield 2 that the bad company ones didn't have.

@ Mak10z Tom Baker in a Fallout game would be okay in my book, just no 10th Doctor, I was sick of him by the time his time was done, Matt Smith is better IMO.

Christopher Eccleston is the best new Doctor though. :toughninja:

I think they will. Even if its unintentionally.

This is the way I look at it. If MZ turns out to be canon, then its assumed that the LW would have given all of the Alien technology to the CWBOS, since he apparently worked so closely with them. <_<

So therefore, if MZ is canon, we now have the CWBOS armed with Enclave technology acquired during the war (including vertibirds, APA, plasma) as well as alien weapons from MZ (disentergrators, atomizers etc) and full access to Mothership Zeta and all technology aboard it, including, but certainly not limited to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDs64HuHL7M. Guess what that would mean? Nothing can stop the CWBOS from taking over the world.

My guess is (my hope is) that Bethesda wouldn't be that stupid to create a god-faction like that. Since I believe they will want to revist the CWBOS again. Its also safe to say, if we see the CWBOS in a future game and they don't have alien weapons/tech that MZ never happened in the game universe.

I really hope you are right Lt.Andronicus. I really do.

Please Bethesda just say it isn't canon.

Mothership Zeta did a much better job in doing the wacky, funny, wild wasteland theme than Old World Blues could ever hope to.