Horse combat?

Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:37 am

I'm new and don't have a clue if we can not only fight on ground but if you wanted to, can fight while mounted on a horse too. I hope it'll be in skyrim because I got tired of having to get off the horse every time I encountered danger in Oblivion.

Also sorry if there is an topic on this already been made.
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:31 pm

sorry, confirmed not to be in
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:07 am

Todd said that they had messed with mounted combat, but that they found that it "changed the basic gameplay too much once you're able to fight off horseback", so for that reason (according to Todd) mounted combat was never done in Skyrim. :(
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:36 am

No, its been denied.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:01 am

Todd said that they had messed with mounted combat, but that they found that it "changed the basic gameplay too much once you're able to fight off horseback", so for that reason (according to Todd) mounted combat was never done in Skyrim. :(

damn... it wouldn't have been that hard to balance... 'nor to gamechanging if they'd have done it my way...
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:29 am

damn... it wouldn't have been that hard to balance... 'nor to gamechanging if they'd have done it my way...


Might be one of those "easier said then done" things.
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:39 pm

Might be one of those "easier said then done" things.

All I'm saying is that if they'd done it they way I woulda made it it would be quite balanced, and not at all gamechanging.
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:33 pm

All I'm saying is that if they'd done it they way I woulda made it it would be quite balanced, and not at all gamechanging.


Yeah but how possible is it to do it that way?
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:20 am

Yeah but how possible is it to do it that way?

Quite possible... (i think)

I doupt horses can sidestep, so where your character would usually do that the horse turns... how you normally turn your charater (moving the mouse or using r3 on the ps3) would instead turn where your aiming... perhaps also the upper body... then you could swing your sword in any direction while riding in any direction... since you ride by kicking a horse with you feet (as far as I know) you could ride with a two hander, while dualwielding or using bow and arrow... if an enemy hits your horse and you don't have a free hand (having a bow would leave a free hand as long as you weren't loading or shooting with it) there should be a large chance that the horse would get scared and throw you off... the chance would depend on the damage inflicted to it... of course there'd also be a chance while you have a free hand (a hand you are holding on to the horse with) but it should be quite smaller... this would also leave some much needed reason to wield a onehander without anything else.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:26 am

So why they are adding mountable horses at all?
Lets keep character on foot and allow mountable horses only for NPC (and allowing them to attack from mount)
Using horses for transportation while we have super-magical-instant-teleport-clicky-thingy is just rtrdd
Only game where mounts were needed for transportation was TES3 (and only game we had no mounts :banghead: )
So Bethesda once again made clear that horses will be useless in TES5 too
Good job developers :down:
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:50 am

So why they are adding mountable horses at all?
Lets keep character on foot and allow mountable horses only for NPC (and allowing them to attack from mount)
Using horses for transportation while we have super-magical-instant-teleport-clicky-thingy is just rtrdd
Only game where mounts were needed for transportation was TES3 (and only game we had no mounts :banghead: )
So Bethesda once again made clear that horses will be useless in TES5 too


Not really its an alternative.
Provided the PC can't run faster then the horse, as was the case in Oblivion.
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:12 pm

Not really its an alternative.
Provided the PC can't run faster then the horse, as was the case in Oblivion.


It is similar to choice to stick fingers in meat grinder or not
Well, yeah you have choice, but this choice is obvious

I hope that developers will at least allow mounted combat for NPCs
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:09 am

I think they should add mounted archery at the very least. It would be easy to implement! You steer the horse with the left stick, like NeverComingBack said, and aim with the right stick just like usual. Them omitting mounted combat yet AGAIN was possibly the biggest disappointment for me.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:58 am

Quite possible... (i think)

I doupt horses can sidestep, so where your character would usually do that the horse turns... how you normally turn your charater (moving the mouse or using r3 on the ps3) would instead turn where your aiming... perhaps also the upper body... then you could swing your sword in any direction while riding in any direction... since you ride by kicking a horse with you feet (as far as I know) you could ride with a two hander, while dualwielding or using bow and arrow... if an enemy hits your horse and you don't have a free hand (having a bow would leave a free hand as long as you weren't loading or shooting with it) there should be a large chance that the horse would get scared and throw you off... the chance would depend on the damage inflicted to it... of course there'd also be a chance while you have a free hand (a hand you are holding on to the horse with) but it should be quite smaller... this would also leave some much needed reason to wield a onehander without anything else.


No offence, but you know nothing about horses :P Horses can side step, look up the Lipizzaner horses, kinda just show stuff these days but a lot of what they do is old miltary training. Also if you are holding onto your horse with any hands at all, you are doin it so very wrong. Grip with the thighs, a well trained horse can even be steered with leg pressure leaving the hand totaly free.

Thats how the mongols conquered 1/2 of the world :)

game controls I could understand tho, Warband does it reasonably well but Skyrim seems to lack the open spaces for the mobility horse combat needs.

Pity you cant shoot from horseback tho, toggle auto run and free aim, (like gta etc)


the way it should be done --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxvQsZGIhQ
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:44 pm

I think they should add mounted archery at the very least. It would be easy to implement! You steer the horse with the left stick, like NeverComingBack said, and aim with the right stick just like usual. Them omitting mounted combat yet AGAIN was possibly the biggest disappointment for me.

However it would be quite unfair to only add mounted archery... it would be giving the finger to every other build... and it wouldn't be that easier than my idea for meele to implerment...
and I have a feeling archery will be extremely overpowered in skyrim... if you can two-shoot kill everything and the drawspeed being half as fast as in the demo then you'd be able to kill anything without it getting to close...
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:38 pm

Nope no horse back combat.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:43 am

That's a negative.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:49 am

Horseback combat is just far too advantageous for the person using it, especially for a video game.

However, I'm not as worried about it not existing in Skyrim purely for the sake that monsters will not be lunging at our throats the moment they catch wind of our existence. I wouldn't be surprised if only Dragons and Bandits are the only thing to force you off a Horse, and that can be aided by having a much smoother animation for dismounting.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:35 am

No offence, but you know nothing about horses :P (NO OFFENCE BUT I TAKE OFFENCE :P ) Horses can side step, look up the Lipizzaner horses, kinda just show stuff these days but a lot of what they do is old miltary training. (THAT I DID NOT KNOW, BUT REGARDLESS i WOULD BE WILLING TO TRADE IT FOR THE ABILITY TO ACCTUALLY DECIDE WERE TO AIM) Also if you are holding onto your horse with any hands at all, you are doin it so very wrong. Grip with the thighs (THAT WAS WHAT I MEANT... ENGLISH AIN'T MY NATIVE LANGUE), a well trained horse can even be steered with leg pressure leaving the hand totaly free. (THAT WAS EXACTLY MY REASONING FOR TWO HANDERS BEING USEABLE)

Thats how the mongols conquered 1/2 of the world :)

game controls I could understand tho, Warband does it reasonably well but Skyrim seems to lack the open spaces for the mobility horse combat needs.

Pity you cant shoot from horseback tho, toggle auto run and free aim, (like gta etc)


the way it should be done --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxvQsZGIhQ

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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:20 am

It is similar to choice to stick fingers in meat grinder or not
Well, yeah you have choice, but this choice is obvious

So you fast travel everywhere in Oblivion then?

I'm sorry. You're missing out on a really good game.
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:43 am

So you fast travel everywhere in Oblivion then?

I'm sorry. You're missing out on a really good game.


No I forced myself to fasttravel only to inns, but temptation to fasttravel everywhere is always there :confused: )
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:27 pm

No I forced myself to fasttravel only to inns, but temptation to fasttravel everywhere is always there :confused: )


Its hardly the same as not grinding your fingers. I manage to play oblivion without being compelled to use fast travel...
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Post » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:34 pm

My characters will be walking, and taking carriages and or ships. Just like in good ol' Morrowind!
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:39 am

Its hardly the same as not grinding your fingers. I manage to play oblivion without being compelled to use fast travel...


I was using it in context of walking on foot (and be able to defend myself instantly) or riding on half-horse back
If sitting on horse back would enable fasttravel, then horses could be more useful, but as they are now (basically as they were in Oblivion) horses are useless
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Post » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:31 am

If I had to bring down a knight army, I would gather a small group with long spears.
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