Horse drawn carriges would be a nice feature

Post » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:48 pm

Adding carriges give more realism and would be a cool feature to see traveling down a road, and being able to hide in it, or comandeer it.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:02 am

Adding carriges give more realism and would be a cool feature to see traveling down a road, and being able to hide in it, or comandeer it.


Yes, but from what we have seen, only royalty use carriages, it would be more common to see just people on horse back or people walking over a carriage. Maybe a carriage rarely for when a leader of one of the skyrim forces is traveling between towns or something and maybe a few carts occasionally but for the most part, just people walking or riding a horse every once and awhile.

But carriages don't really add much more realism as most people that travel across land do so on foot with some going on horseback. So yes, it would be a nice feature but isn't required in the least to make the world feel more real, just one of those out of the ordinary things to look for as you travel through the world and would really like to see more pedestrians on the roads.
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Post » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:49 pm

But carriages don't really add much realism as most people that travel across land do so on foot with some going on horseback.

well there are people carrying around produce back in the day when going to town from their farm. People in the markets can have there goods there too. In most movies and games I have seen wagons and carriges.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:43 am

Like the OP said, it adds to the realism. We are most likely to see only people walking, or on horseback for general transportation. But is there no royalty in Skyrim? The richest, most wealthy province of Tamriel? Or maybe TES character are just technologically [censored], and unable to create a wheel.

Personally I dont really care, but it would be nice to see a carriage pass through the woods from time to time. They could even be guarded, and contain a lootable container on them. Since they belong to rich people, it would make sense.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:38 am

well there are people carrying around produce back in the day when going to town from their farm. People in the markets can have there goods there too. In most movies and games I have seen wagons and carriges.


In westerns yes. But in a medieval setting (TES isn't based in a medieval setting but it is most closely associated to it.), most people traveled on foot carrying their goods, with a minority of those people with horses and the royalty usually are the only ones using carriages. Carts are far and between as well. In the TES mythos, we have seen carriages and boats and horses but carriages have always been when royalty has been involved and most of the people walked, even the countess of Mournhold walked into Cyrodiil.

But as I said, it would be a nice addition, just make them a rare sight.

Edit: I changed out wagon with cart, because wagons weren't invented until the 18th century :tongue:
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:35 am

In the game, "Redguard," which took place in 2E 864, I do recall seeing a Gypsy type wagon.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/Rhanyan/part03image05.jpg?t=1299553237
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:06 am

They aren't even done with Horses, unfortunately I doub't we'd see something so elaborate :/
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:14 am

I'd be happy just seeing wagons.

I suspect the reason most people have traveled on foot in past games has been due to a lack of being able to properly implement wagons. Since they couldn't do them right, they didn't have them in at all.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:35 am

I guess there are royalties in Skyrim, different kings now wanting power, counts and barons of smaller areas
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:21 pm

Carts can be spotted in the trailer (hooded walker through town with creek). They look small enough to be hand-carts but they could be hooked up to a donkey.

It would be a great feature if it can be as good as Red Dead Redemption. They would be great targets for bandits and you could protect them as part of the Fighter's Guild.
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Post » Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:29 pm

Like the OP said, it adds to the realism. We are most likely to see only people walking, or on horseback for general transportation. But is there no royalty in Skyrim? The richest, most wealthy province of Tamriel? Or maybe TES character are just technologically [censored], and unable to create a wheel.


Royalty can afford their own personal mage to teleport them whenever and wherever they will.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:11 am

Hand carts for the merchants would be very very nice. Carriages would be nice too to be used like silt striders, but in real time so I could get off if I see something interesting on the road.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:42 am

Yes, carriges so we can play Robin Hood and rob them. The mead carriges with "Friar Tuck" steering them would be the first to be robbed. :D
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:55 pm

In westerns yes. But in a medieval setting (TES isn't based in a medieval setting but it is most closely associated to it.), most people traveled on foot carrying their goods, with a minority of those people with horses and the royalty usually are the only ones using carriages. Carts are far and between as well. In the TES mythos, we have seen carriages and boats and horses but carriages have always been when royalty has been involved and most of the people walked, even the countess of Mournhold walked into Cyrodiil.

But as I said, it would be a nice addition, just make them a rare sight.

Edit: I changed out wagon with cart, because wagons weren't invented until the 18th century :tongue:

Carts were invented during the Bronze Age so it’s not a new invention.
Main difference is that oxen were more used to draw carts than horses in medieval and earlier times.
Carts would also fit pretty well in elder scroll but it’s not in of technical reasons, it’s pretty hard to animate a horse and cart on the uneven roads in Oblivion or Morrowind.
If the road tilt to the side the horse will walk upright but the cart will tilt sideways,
Worse you must be able to handle sharp turn at natural places like in front of the imperial city.
They has enough problem handling horses without carts.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:41 am

Sleign you always argue with others?

Anyway Oblivion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHO6MfBQbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF2oa80k7Ms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWYilcIhKuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAepZrJxPag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRKQTPYX1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4w1gxeDkw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vckqoncSag
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=donkeyCart.jpg

They say about improving of horses why not add nice features?
For example scripting
Horse Gallop
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28118
MentalElf Horse Sanity
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17329
Horse Commands v4
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8766
Command Mounts and Horses
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27957
Horse Management
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37073

Meshwork and Textures
Espless Slofs Horse Replacer
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27675
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/31063-1-1271018396.jpg
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25574-4-1246641974.jpg
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=horseArmorLeather01.jpg
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=horseArmorSteel01.jpg
Dalls_Horse_Saddle_Accessories
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14649
Zira Niben Bay Castle
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34072
Zira My Horses Compilation
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18700
Zira Medieval Horse Clothes
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26788
Zira IC Horse Ranch - The Second Edition
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17793
Zira Horse Stable
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31804
Zira Clydesdale Horses v11
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33560
Zira Battle Horse Shop
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21526
Zira Clydesdale Horses
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30882
New Saddles for My Horses by Zira
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17257
New Horse Armor Texture Pack by Zira
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14476

Developers have professional tools thats modders didn't have, many improvements done by modders can be easily by developers why not add them?
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:36 am

Yes carriages would be great. Good for a travel services as well...

They add another feeling to roads and travels and a more living economy, where traders have to... actually transport the goods between towns.

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Also, concerning the discussion about carriages only being used by royalty... they have been used for trading for as well.

Here's my nice little wikipedia-proof that should end this discussion: "A carriage is a wheeled vehicle for people, usually horse-drawn; litters (palanquins) and sedan chairs are excluded, since they are wheelless vehicles. The carriage is especially designed for private passenger use and for comfort or elegance, though some are also used to transport goods"

Also, in Morrowind, you, as a prisoner, were transported first by carriage and then by boat...
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Anyway, carriages would be great. It makes sense that towns have some sort of transportation between them for trading. And it makes the world more alive. And it gives us opportunities for travel services. :thumbsup:
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:34 pm

Yes carriages would be great. Good for a travel services as well...

They add another feeling to roads and travels and a more living economy, where traders have to... actually transport the goods between towns.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, concerning the discussion about carriages only being used by royalty... they have been used for trading for as well.

Here's my nice little wikipedia-proof that should end this discussion: "A carriage is a wheeled vehicle for people, usually horse-drawn; litters (palanquins) and sedan chairs are excluded, since they are wheelless vehicles. The carriage is especially designed for private passenger use and for comfort or elegance, though some are also used to transport goods"

Also, in Morrowind, you, as a prisoner, were transported first by carriage and then by boat...
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Anyway, carriages would be great. It makes sense that towns have some sort of transportation between them for trading. And it makes the world more alive. And it gives us opportunities for travel services. :thumbsup:

Yes traveling merchants can looks really nice with cargo carts
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:50 pm

I think this brings in the open space cities. I think you should be able to pay for a ride and then just kind of be able to enjoy the scenery. Might be nice to have more people in the cities.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:56 am

If available, I would at least use wagon or cart. I do believe one of the concept art pictures depicts a pack animal.

Edit: add image

http://cdn.zenimax.com/akqacms/files/tes/concept_art/WhiterunCityTundra.jpg
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:35 pm

I doubt that this will be added in at this relatively late stage, but I think its certainly feasible for a mod
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:59 pm

I would like to see carriage's in Skyrim. It's a medieval like time and not setted in the Stone Age so it would be realistic if traders or farmers have one and rich merchants or nobles maybe more. I don't understand why so many people think the poor people can't afford them. It's not like their made from silver just wood.
Yes Horse drawn Carriages would be a nice feature!!!

PS: I didn't know if it it's "carriages" or "carriges":P.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:44 pm

I would love to see carriages as one of several travel services. Safety by speed, but quite expensive and you won't be rested upon arrival (whereas a mammoth transport would be safe by massiveness, also expensive, but very slow and you would be rested).For the player, hand cart or horse cart would be sufficient. But I would prefer if you sacrificed two "companion slots" if you used both a horse and a cart. You'll haul more, obviously, but you'll be slower (due cart) and weaker (due no companions).
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:34 pm

Sleign you always argue with others?

Anyway Oblivion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHO6MfBQbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF2oa80k7Ms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWYilcIhKuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAepZrJxPag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRKQTPYX1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4w1gxeDkw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vckqoncSag
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=donkeyCart.jpg

They say about improving of horses why not add nice features?
For example scripting
Horse Gallop
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28118
MentalElf Horse Sanity
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17329
Horse Commands v4
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8766
Command Mounts and Horses
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27957
Horse Management
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37073

Meshwork and Textures
Espless Slofs Horse Replacer
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27675
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/31063-1-1271018396.jpg
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25574-4-1246641974.jpg
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=horseArmorLeather01.jpg
http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z133/mr_siika/Misc/?action=view¤t=horseArmorSteel01.jpg
Dalls_Horse_Saddle_Accessories
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14649
Zira Niben Bay Castle
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=34072
Zira My Horses Compilation
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=18700
Zira Medieval Horse Clothes
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26788
Zira IC Horse Ranch - The Second Edition
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17793
Zira Horse Stable
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=31804
Zira Clydesdale Horses v11
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33560
Zira Battle Horse Shop
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21526
Zira Clydesdale Horses
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30882
New Saddles for My Horses by Zira
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=17257
New Horse Armor Texture Pack by Zira
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14476

Developers have professional tools thats modders didn't have, many improvements done by modders can be easily by developers why not add them?

Any released mods with carts? Had been fun to see how well it would work, useful in the game to as horses is useless in combat so if they could carry more it would be nice :)
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:44 am

Any released mods with carts? Had been fun to see how well it would work, useful in the game to as horses is useless in combat so if they could carry more it would be nice :)

mrsiika still work on them, animated carts looks awesome, most of this videos still WIPs.
This one working, but old and have some flaws.
haz_ct3_working_horse_cart_service
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13223
Momos Cart Resource
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37221
Some new resources by Momo add more variations to carts still need to be animated trough.
Thats will be great addition to Tamriel Travellers when will be finished.
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Post » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:24 am

it would be cool for royals and rich people.
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