I'm so sorry but did I miss this?

Are there no horses? There what makes the game so immersive, and make it feel more real why would they remove horses :'(

is there any evidence to suggest that there won't be horses?

Not confirmed or denied yet, I find horses improbable in a snowy mountainous climate though.

because horse people are creepy. horses belong in hotdogs and hamburgers and nowhere else

Yeah, they came in handy for Morrowind, wait, that didn't have horses, I mean Oblivion, wait, I never use horses in Oblivion because of it's redundancy, silly me. I do want horses if they're able to make them feel right, and useful.

If people can clamor for spears despite being flawed in their latest appearance within the series than us horse-lovers can do the same. Horse-lovers unite!

Honestly, I want a horse.

Horses are more practical than a spear anyway, I wouldn't mind a different kind of mount as well, http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2007/12/21/goldencompass.article.jpg anyone?

Few, I thought I missed something because in another thread someone was stating all the things that aren't include, and one was horses.

Horses are actually very useful in Oblivion. I use them for exploring the world faster (and safer). See trouble - just keep the horsie running. IMO to make them a necessity (of sort) they should remove fast travel. I can see people crying over it already...

Now we're talking. What if Bethesda invented a completely new creature for the sole purpose of being a mount in Skyrim?

dragons i'll accept. anything less insane is unacceptable as a mount.

I believe they said they weren't entirely satisfied with how horses turned out in Oblivion, and I'm pretty sure most of us can agree with that. So if they were going to implement horses again in Skyrim, they'd want them to be good, useful and working properly. If they feel they've got it right, I'm sure we'll see horses return.

I think dragons are a bit overboard :shrug: I'd like a wingless pygmy dragon though

Well horses were made quite good actually IMO. For the animation and visual part. As for usefulness,as I said - remove fast travel,you'll start liking horses really fast.

Oblivion's horses are better than no horses, in my opinion. My character was slow in heavy armor. Getting a black horse, casting fortify speed on it, casting water-walking on it, and riding off into the sunset with it was just fun and useful for a slow character like my own... regardless of the iffy controls.

There are several horse races that are used to living in the colder parts of the world, most of them doesn't look like Shadowfax of course so there would probably be some [censored]ing about non-knightly horses if they were implemented

http://sverigesradio.se/diverse/appdata/isidor/images/news_images/2563/529484_333_250.jpg

IMO if horses are to be in then fast travel should be out (please!) because otherwise they are little more than eye candy.

leave my fast travel alone, the horses had terrible animations, handled like battlecruisers, and prone to dying stupidly leaving you to run anyway.

also if quests didn't make you run to leyawin, get the quest, run to anvil, kill a rat, the run back to leyawin, then maybe we wouldn't need fast travel.

Well the reason the Danish lost England was because they had no cavalry... and couldn't fight on horses...

Indeed, sure, horses weren't done that well in Oblivion, but in their last appearance in the series, spears also weren't handled as well as they could have been, but that didn't stop anyone from wanting them, and that's perfectly reasonable, because removing something entirely isn't the only solution to a feature being implemented poorly, you can also try to improve on it. And maybe they'll do this to horses in Skyrim, Bethesda hasn't confirmed horses, certainly, but they haven't denied them either, so we'll just see what happens, until Bethesda says "Yes, there are horses" or "No, there are no horses", we can talk about horses all they long, but that still doesn't tell us if they're in the game or not.



If they did that, I'd probably not play the game at all, in a game the size of the Elder Scrolls, I'd say some form of fast travel is essential, whether it's like in Oblivion, or travel services and teleportation spells isn't important, what's important is that it does its job. The game is simply too big to force the player to go everywhere in real time, especially with Skyrim's mountainous landscape, and I'll be pretty impressed if you manage to ride you're horse over the tallest mountains in the game.

And if you don't like it, don't use it, stop trying to ruin the game for everyone else. Oh, right, not using features you don't want to use is IMPOSSIBLE, having an optional feature you don't like automatically FORCES you to use it, because it's physically impossible to NOT click on one of the marker's on you're map or NOT click on the "travel" option when talking to the guy standing next to the silt strider. There's some sort of mysterious force that compells you to do so, I seem to have forgotten that important factor.



And IMO you should stop trying to ruin the game for other people and learn how to do the impossibly difficult task of not using features you don't want to use. Probably a lot more helpful than whining about features you don't like (And yes, when I see begging for the same thing at least three times in a thread that isn't even related to it, it IS whining, just because you add "IMO" before you're post doesn't change that.)

Also, Red Dead Redemption had fast travel, both as travel services and the ability to directly travel to various locations you've discovered from you're camp, I'd like to see you play that game and tell me the horses in it are "just eyecandy".



No, I'll just start hating the game really fast.

I don't know why, but I never found Oblivions horse controls difficult

First off to the OP they have not decided what they will do with horses. He did a podcast where HE himself said that they are planning on adding horses and they are working on it. However unless they get them to feel right they will not add them. So it is neither denied nor conformed. It is a maybe right now.

Secondly dragon mounts are a dumb idea and he already said that it will never happen. Dragons in TES are suppose to be nasty SOB's you think they are going to let some low life ride on them?

I never found them difficult, either. I just assumed iffy meant "nothing special". I didn't think horses in Oblivion were the best ever in any video game or anything close, but I didn't think they failed miserably. The horses themselves seemed a bit stiff, but having the creature curve a bit would help with that issue, in my opinion. Regardless, I just want a horse. I fast-travel, but I also like to go out into the wilderness, a lot, and find things. Plus, again, casting spells on a horse and observing the results can be amusing.

@ Selbeth

I never said it should be done. I know it would make people pissed off,I use alot of fast travel too. But you can't really make horses feel important if you take away the meaning of their primary use - wich is travelling faster.

They weren't difficult, they were just slow, laborous and had slow unnatural animations to accompany them. A horse can turn on a dime if it is standing still, you shouldn't need a three point turn. And the animations were rubbish.

But really the whole world and the whole game design is not suited for horses. If they wanted to make Mount&Blade HD they would, this is the Elder Scrolls.

I agree the controls were nothing special and whilst I didn't find them difficult I did find them a little counter intuitive. I hope they can improve the horse/mounts because there have been a few games recently that have done it so well! Games like RDR are a really tough act to follow for implementing horses, it would be great if Betjesda could get close to that kind of level. Having said all that I would rather have Oblivion style horse than none at all! Even if they would know feel quite dated.