Like Omg the companions and their quests are Soooo boring and easy. Boone and Rex are more compelling and interesting than the entire cast.

You can't even adjust your over the shoulder camera while aiming in third person but you could in NV.

Ugh it's so frustrating

Get lost and play that then instead of being arrogant enough to bring the mood down for those that [censored] enjoy Fallout 4.

If opinions (formulated as opinions! That's rare) "bring down the mood" for you, maybe you should stop frequenting online forums, don't you think?

Dogmeat is cooler and more useful.

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Why do people start threads like this.................

They don't though, the OP is arrogant enough to think this. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't like Fallout 4.

At least the companions in Fallout 4 are leagues better than those bland pieces of cardboard in Fallout 3.

Also, you can change the third person camera view.

you don't see any of the shortcomings in FO4? The bare bones weapon selection for one, look at the 44 magnum it has 3 mods, and is more powerful than a 45 or a 50. That makes no sense. They cut the 12.7 mm smg and pistol too.

No you can't zoom in and out while holding the aim button in third person. In NV you could. Not here.

I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe you'll get some enjoyment when Fallout 5 comes out and you think Fallout 4 was better?

This is the 2nd thread you've posted that's the same. Borderline spam.

/ignored

Not everybody has to hold FO4 to a gold standard, though I enjoy it, I'm 30 hours in and haven't even been to Diamond City or done any MQ because there is nothing compelling me to do so, I've spent most of that time doing Settlements and some exploration, the game has little drive for anything, it didn't feel as wonderous leaving the Vault here as apposed to Vault 101, due to us building our own settlements, they've really skimped on pre made settlements outside of Diamond City it seems to me, as I've only come across one and that's Covenant.
It really has been flayed from the bone this iteration.
I'm still enjoying it for what it is though!

Too add - I made a thread about Diamond City against New Vegas for Jewel of the Waste in my anticipation of going there, and the general jist was Diamond City is just shantys and smaller than Megaton, so to me it's a glorified Republic of Dave, with the prestigous Name of Diamomd City, it reeks of Dissapointment before I've even been there so far, now if I get there and I think differently, I'll reflect on that!

And I feel sorry for anyone who calls other people "arrogant" just for expressing an opinion and/or critique.

New Vegas is overrated. I'll grant that it still has the best dialog out of any Fallout game, but I feel like they focused too much on adding things just because they were in the old Fallouts, or trying to tell this grand message, and they lost sight of just making a fun and interesting game. These threads might get more mileage though if everyone wasn't so hellbent on crapping on Bethesda and everyone who prefers their games... it also doesn't help that these threads just happen so much, too.

Third person is barely usable in New Vegas for me. Zooming and aiming be damned, they really improved the third-person action for this game.

You should visit Goodneighbor. It might be my favorite city in any Fallout game. There's also a few large, um, "settlements" that become accessible as you progress through the main quest that are very cool. All in all I feel like this game is just about as well settled as what we saw in Fallout 3 in terms of large, pre-made settlements - and while New Vegas had lots of settlements, I always felt like there was never a reason to revisit them after your first time through.

Eh, having an opinion isn't arrogant. Saying Rex and Boone are more interesting than anybody in the entire Fallout 4 cast might be, though.

Interesting I found NV to be garbage with no replay value that I only played roughly 40 hours before giving it awayfor free.

I started my play with New Vegas, but I have a rather negative memory of it. And that was last week.

It felt less like exploration and more like busywork. Constantly fighting the showstopping bugs with console commands, frustration with lifeless companions, the way progression in an arbitrary skill seemed to make things more boring rather than more interesting.

I miss the special attacks. I miss having to think critically about my weapons conditions. That's really it.

Because they're being honest and it's their opinion (unless they're trolling). You might not agree, but you should fight for their right to say it.

I do enjoy that they gave the companions in Fallout 4 more life, though I enjoyed the companions in NV better. Though Dogmeat beats Rex, hands down. Watching him do tricks or lay in his doghouse, so [censored] adorable.

YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TO DIAMOND CITY AND ALREADY CONCLUDED THIS GAME svckS?!!! HAHAHAH!!!!

Bethesda took an awful long time making this game for all of you and it's not right to diss it for stupid reasons, that's a real disservice.

I will admit that one thing on my crap list is the seriously poor model of the Assault Rifle(why on earth it looks like a cross between a WW 1 and WW 2 machine gun is beyond me. Almost looks steampunkish.... And, I think it was lazy that combat rifle and combat shotgun share extremely similiar model(why are they not unique between one another?) with the only difference I can tell being a ball on one of the bolts. It is still so far a lot better than FO 3. I'm also not sure why we can't mod a 10 mm pistol into a 10 mm submachine gun. The "auto pistol" isn't different enough imo(should of allowed us to fix on a full stock to make it into a SMG, would have maybe made the gun more viable for down the road, as in the later game I'm only using .308, .50, 12 guage and sometimes .44 or .45, with the .38 and 10 mm becoming obsolete.

Your opinion isn't very good, seeing how you only got 40 hours in. If actually going to places, meeting people, listening to what they have to say, then you of all people should know 40 hours in a sandbox game is nothing, and pretty hard to accept your critique of FONV. With so few hours, you would have barely scraqed the surface on the companions, the quests, and been nowhere near completion of the game, unless you doing a speed run, skipping quests and dialogues, and in that case any game is going to svck, even BGS ones, as it is just a fact, you speed your way through quests, dialogues, npcs, you won't have fun, and if you didn't, then you barely got anywhere. Just like the poster above who said 30 hours in and hasn't even made it to Diamond City.

If they happen so much, then clearly lots of people take issues with the game. Vocalizing those issues can only serve to put out the word that feature "X" wasn't popular, and it may influence Bethesda's decisions regarding that feature in the future. And besides, for every criticism that gets posted on here (and so far, I've only seen valid ones), there are ten posters lined up to insult or discredit the critiquer because there's no way their precious Fallout 4 can have flaws.

Rex and Boone are more interesting than anybody I've met in the entire Fallout 4 cast, in my opinion. And those two might've been some of my least-used companions in that game.

Sorry to hear that OP, thankfully I enjoy it more than any other fallout thus far. My suggestion would be to play NV instead if this game doesnt float your boat.

Thankfully opinions are exactly that, opinions. Some people just get a little butt hurt and think someone is trying to make their claim a fact.

Yes, that's the polite way to express your opinion. Myself, I can hardly stand Boone, Rex is awesome, and I'm not going to try and measure interestingness. Just that so far I like most of the characters I've met in Fallout 4 more.

It also seems to me that Fallout 4 (and Fallout 3?) get more emotion out of me than New Vegas. There were way more moments during the main story that had me going, holy crap!, or genuinely conflicted about the decision I (or my character) should make.

I still think Morrowind was a better game than Skyrim. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy Skyrim.

OP needs to stop comparing the games to each other and just enjoy the game for what it has to offer.

Honestly I don't know what "the entire cast" means in this context. I doubt it's all characters in F4 as OP probably hasn't gotten that far. But hey, at least his/her thread started with "I think" instead of absolutisms like "THE BEST GAME EVER"