How any one can think TW2 is better.... Bleh. I liked TW2, especially so soon after the garbage that was DA2. But its combat wasn't so much better than skyrims that it blows one away. Hell to be frank i prefer the familiarity of Skyrims combat to that twirly rolling hot mess that was TW2 combat. I will say it was fairly tactical despite that though, so kudos to them. I also found money pretty useless in TW2 as well, i mean aside from the odd crafting component there was really nothing to spend it on.

The two things i will give TW2 over Skyrim is graphics and its system of perks. The graphics were great, but it was a very confined gameworld you were rolling around in at any one time. So they could afford to be, i'm actually pretty interested in seeing how the console port of TW2 looks because if it doesn't have its graphics then it doesn't have much going for it other than the nvdes in that crowd. As far as the perks go; i liked the mutagen system but found it not very fleshed out. At least not to point i would have preferred. Ultimately they were an after thought even on the hard(est) difficulty. It was a novel concept though but would probably be hard to adapt to some other franchise. But on that same token you were obviously much more free to choose how you played in skyrim.

Ultimately they are two extremely different games i personally only played through TW2 twice, once for each "side" as it were and never looked back. I've already surpassed the elapsed time i spent in TW2 3 times, mods will ultimately make a mockery of any other game in terms of play time and ultimate value. This alone makes skyrim the defacto champion for a mere 60 dollars.

70 hours and whining?

Pfft.

I had 129+ hours and wasn't bored at all.

You aren't done with the game until you have;

Discovered every location
Done the Main Quest
Hit Max Level
Leveled all your build's skills to 100
and done every single quest.

Get to playing and stop your whining.

*smack with ruler*

I guess I feel exactly like you do. I have been waiting for this game for years without realizing it. I don't need to have a story line always pushing me along to enjoy the game. I start a quest and if I run into something along the way that interests me, I do it. If I get a little bored, I resume the thieves Guild questline I started a while ago. Then I'll do a couple of the Main quest items. I guess I'm the exploring type. Do some of the bugs bother me? Yes, but this to me is the best PS3 RPG ever by far. I'll be playing this for another month or so, or until I finish the Main Quest, then I'll put it down and come back to it in a couple months and play it again and so on.

I do wonder though, I have never gone to a discussion board of a game I didn't like. Why spend more time on something you don't like? Do you just like to argue?

One thing I do want in the Elder Scrolls is cinematic cutscenes. They tend to take you out of the experience and make you feel like you are playing a glorified interactive movie.

It is very relevant actually, because it tells us what your standpoint is. Everyone sees things from where they stand, so unless we know that, we cannot actually understand your point. Is it someone who is trying their first RPG telling me the combat is great, or is it someone who has actually tried many other games and has something to compare and reference to? One of those is credible, the other isn't.

That is besides the point tho. I asked you what you meant by "pure gaming goodness" and you basically just told me that it meant nothing, that it was just a bunch of words that sounded nicely. Basically by "pure gaming goodness" you meant "I enjoy it".

My question then is this: why not just say "I enjoy it"?

P.S. I do like the game, but thats because I dont live in a polarized world: things are not amazing or terrible, but rather everywhere in between. In this case, it is a very entertaining game, and one with massive potential. That does not mean it is perfect, far from it. Seeing the flaws in something does not mean hating that thing.

Skirim is a very fun exploration simulator, but every RPG element in it (combat, dialogues, storyline, world impact) was underworked compared to the industry's standards in 2011. Its a 2002 game (morrowind) with better graphics and less content.

110 hours in and loving it.

Cheers

Post limit. Over 100 hours over 2 characters now, nowhere near quitting. To each his own.