I understand this is merely your speculation, but I feel that many of these arguments are on shaky ground.

Considering the NCR has been attacked by nearly every faction you just named and more, how exactly is it their fault the Khans decided to muder and pillage NCR cities, or the Enclave attempted to eradicate them and the entire continent, or the BoS decided to 'take the technology from the wastelanders.' The NCR didn't make them into enemies, all of those factions made their choice, and they clearly made the wrong one. The Khans are on the run, the Enclave has been shattered, and the BoS is on a steep decline.

By the way, you do realize that in terms of priority, the Mojave is a distant third amongst the NCR's priorities from what we know, as there is still a low-intensity war with the Brotherhood, a much more powerful opponent than the Legion, and there is evidence that meanwhile they are still expanding South (Baja) and North (They're already in Southern Oregon, i.e Klamath), from Hanlons story about the settlers around the well in Baja or the influx of NCR settlers swarming into the Mojave, and without the resistance they're facing in NV, all while trying to keep the Legion out the Mojave. As regrettable (as well as unlikely) as the loss of the Mojave might be, it would hardly be the existential threat you deem it to be, particularly in a House or Independant ending, when they have a convenient buffer between them.

Clearly you underestimate the power of political enfranchisment that representive governments bring. When the population has a stake in the continued existance fo the government, as well as the right to elect their own officials, the possiblity of revolution goes way, way down. And what, pray tell, would be the catalyst for a major uprising? What existential threat to the livelihoods of significant portion of the populace akin to say the abolition of slavery (which the Southern economies depended on) exists in the NCR? The vast majority of the populace is not going to rally around overthrowing a democratically-elected government when there is no guarantee the alternative will be any better, and it is almost certain that it will be worse. Why should they? Not to mention that unlike the real-life USA, the NCR does not have a weak federal government and small (back then, the US had the smallest standing army in the industrial world) military.

The NCR has endured much, much worse than anything the Legion is capable of, fought much tougher opponents than them, and are still standing. In fact, they've prospered. In fact, the Core Region so safe and boring that people like Henry Jamison have come out East looking for adventure. And besides, the NCR is downright angelic in terms of corruption compared to the real-life 19th Century US they're based off of, so frankly, it looks to me like you're making mountains out of molehills. Last time I checked, NCR troops and weren't firing on strikers or busting unions.

Both Navarro and Brotherhood were just bleak shadows of their former selves. Navarro was understaffed in Fallout 2 already and with most moving to East Coast and no supply lines (and quite a few desertions I imagine) no wonder they won it. As for HELIOS, the BoS did a tragic tactical mistake and paid for it. They drove themselves to a corner and failed.

The only real downside i see with Mr.House is that he doesnt give two [censored] about people in particular only Vegas and progress.
He is all business.

Remember that time America rebelled against the UK and got its independence and then the UK just fell into anarchy, or did it build the biggest empire the world has ever seen? I forget sometimes

House nearly gave his life for the Mojave, he has also planned for it's future, laying the foundations for a post-war government and security force. So I feel that after all that he deserves it. Plus he has what I feel is the best plan

This, another well said post.

Long story short: If you believe Mr. House and the things he says about his plans, he could be seen as the best choice. If you like the way New Vegas is run right now, he might be the best choice. If you care care mostly about the outcome for the Courier rather than a random citizen of the Mojave somewhere, he could be the best choice.

Otherwise just go for NCR.

I feel that an independent Vegas is best for Vegas and for the NCR (with the House option being best). Why the NCR? First off, their resources are stained as is, and second, they're terrible about the upkeep of territories they have (due mostly to the first reason). Having House take the dam helps the NCR in the big picture. While the lose access to that resource, they gain a strong ally ("ally" is used very, very loosely), and they don't have to worry about pouring resources into the region to keep it from the Legion's hands.

Just to butt in for a tick, the NCR isn't bad with its resources, my qualms with NCR is their treatment of new territories. They take as many valuable resources as they feel are needed in Shady Sands back in California, then they leave the outlying territory with taxes. It's not what's best for Vegas.

If you don't care about the actual people and just like shiney buildings and money, than sure he is the best choice.

By "resources", I meant supply lines and soldiers. Not to say that the NCR is bad with their resources, but they are stretched thin. The NCR does try to give back and protect people when they can (see the outpost in Freeside where they tried to distribute food to the locals or in Bitter Springs where they've set up a refugee camp). They've made mistakes, and their methods are in many cases questionable, but they still try to do what's right in the end. Is that best for the survival of humanity? Maybe, maybe not. However, I'd rather die with my personal freedoms intact than live under the rule of a tyrant.

But most of the territories they've added thus far become states, and indeed, if you kill House, you occasionally hear NPC's from the NCR talking about how the Mojave will be a new state within the NCR, presumably with the full rights and priviliges of statehood. Not to mention that a state with both Hoover Dam, a convenient source of renewable energy, and New Vegas, would likely have considerable influence because of their economic value, and hardly seem in danger of being marginalized and exploited. And keep in mind, if they become a part of the NCR, they are being connected to one of the largest and most modern economies in the known world, and while their taxes go up, so does gdp.

Of course, this progress dosen't affect everyone equally as the end slides note, but then again, the alternative is being a part of a tiny land-locked country in the middle of the desert between the two superpowers of the known world, which is hardly a better long-term prospect.

I see house as the best choise for Vegas. He might not be the most "Palatable" or "nice" choise but he seems to be the most logical choise.

He was a superintelligent tycoon before the war and he essentially saved vegas. His projections have allmost all come to fruition. He can guarantee the safety and the development of Vegas. There is much to learn from him and even if he is an autocrat I see him as the benevolent sort.

Also from a Metagaming perspective House makes sense. The old factions are getting just that. Old. We have rehashed their stories ad nauseam (thats, "till we puke"). House is "new blood" and new drama. He is an interesting guy to pit against all of the other factions. If House is dead than we just go back to rehasing old stories. If we "take vegas for ourselves" everything is up in the air... too much is up in the air. If NCR or the Legion take Vegas? Well... we pretty much know what happens because several NPCs project it.

House is the obvious choise.

For you...
Look House aint new blood he is a 200-300 year old abomination with a robot army under his control. Genius or not he doesnt actually help the people that need help.
He came back and killed alot of people pushing them out from their homes and into a ghetto. Freeside.

Eh, compared to what else is out there, a ghetto in fallout isn't that bad.

House is good for New Vegas, and that's it, so IMO House can go to hell.

I killed Lynette for creating one.

From the moment the Securitrons decided to gun down a man just for trying to walk into a certain area of a city, House was a dead man as far as I was concerned.

So far as I know there as never been an authoritarian Technocratic government, there have been hundreds of Democracies and Dictatorships. So Mr. House will be doing something new.

I just don't see it. If everytime a country ran into a rough patch the people revolted then America, and most of the rest of the world wouldn't have lasted 20 years. What you are describing sounds like the bad times every nation goes through. It might not even be that bad, we're not hearing anything about economic collapse, or massive unrest or really anything of the sort. I just think it's an unpopular war that most people keep in the back of thier minds but don't think of that often.

The people don't care so long as it doesn't effect them, at least that's how the majority is. It holds true in America today and NCR in 2281. But it does effect them. House is raising the price of Hoover Dam electricity greatly, which would effect who gets it and how much they're charging it for. They'll start small protests and it'll get bigger. Same with Legion (especially with Legion) and same with Yes Man.

It's the rules, they warmed him, he didn't heed to their warnings and thus they stopped the threat.

You don't know his reasoning for doing that, he could've been a psychopath out to kill people or a raider spy.

Exactly. They're not the kind of rules I would care to live by. Why would I help subject others to them?

That's the reason I tend to be skeptical of House enthusiasm. While he's clearly capable of achieving a lot, I see no sign that his intentions are altruistic in the least. Which would be fine, except he's also trying to set himself up as the government, which is by definitiion supposed to be altruistic.

So you're basing you entire opinion of a faction by a singel encounter where he is making sure jetheads don't line the streets of the Strip by making it so you have to show them 2,000 caps to get it and somebody said, "Nope, not gonna listen." and hauled ass to get through the get. That's how things are everywhere in reality and in game, you don't listen and you act out after a warning you are detained.

Look at the other options, they all have a lot more negatives on their plate, NCR doesn't do anything about their raiders, drain places of resouces, and steal people's land. Legion enslaves, allows cannibalism, and causes so many deaths. And Indie is just anarchy, ever large faction gets screwed over and every small faction fights for survival. Bad all around.

EDIT: And I like how you blocked out all of the arguement I made to why that action is justified. Just picked out "It's the rules" whereas they are the simplest and kindest rules out of any of the major factions.

The NCr would like to destroy the raiders but their overextended, this was mentioned many times, along with the mention of them destroying many other raider bands. Where are you getting "draining resources" from? I hear people mention it but never found anything proving it. I don't understand the steal people's land one either, except for Moreno I don't think I've found them kicking out civilians of thier land.

The entire concept of forceful separation between rich and poor sits badly with me - blame Fallout 2 and Vault City flashbacks. If there's one lesson that game taught me it's that people who care only about themselves and are willing to create rules that benefit them at the expense of others don't belong in charge of anything. And he never seems to drop that kind of attitude - House's every action seems calculated solely for his own benefit. That would be one thing if he was trying to be a private entity, but when he tries to create laws with that intent, he's going down.


NCR gets rid of raiders just as soon as they beat the legion, they make places richer and better off, and they forcefully incoroporate land into their country, which is not the same thing as stealing it.

That doesnt make him new its just his government that he is establishing. Look looking at NCR and House they are better then most other wasteland crawlers but i dont see none of them fit for Vegas. House saved Vegas but killed its residents and took it for himself so i got a [censored]in problem with him.