How big is Akavir? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:54 pm

Is it the size of Tamriel? or the size of a single provence?

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:33 pm

It has no size. Really.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:11 am

I'd estimate it was pretty large.

It wasn't compared to the islands found along the way, therefore, I imagine it to be decently large.

There is no actual lore evidence though.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:50 am

It is likely many times larger than Tamriel. Like, huge, and stuff. Stuff.
:shocking:

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:30 am

It's bigger than a bread basket.

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:16 pm

Pretty big.

I'd say it could be any size you like, really. I think it's a nightmare version of Tamriel with crazy snake people and monkey people and ice monsters and crazy things. Each of its lands -- the equivalents of Tamriel's provinces -- could be as big as Tamriel, or the whole of Akavir could be the size of Cyrodiil. I don't know and I'd like someone to make something up. Ready go.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:12 am

Large enough to accomodate four major nations, at least five different societies, and at one time two distinct types of dragon. Plus whatever else we don't know about.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:23 am

Almost as big as muatra.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:11 am

I'd have to guess much bigger than Tamriel...think about it..it's the exotic far East. It's off the edge of the map. Proceed with caution for there be tygers.

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:20 pm

My guess would be that is is much larger than Tamriel. But we know so little about it, and we don't even have a map of it, so it's hard to be sure.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:55 am

I imagine that is larger than Tamriel. But as we have no map of Akavir, we can't tell which is the size of Akavir.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:20 am

so one country really could have 1000 seperate islands?

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:41 am

why not a trillion? monkeys don't count well

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:40 am

well, they'd count twice when naming their race

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:59 pm

Akavir is smaller than Tamriel, but bigger than Old Ehlnofey. It's just an idea, albeit one that occasionally sends armies to invade the 'real' world of Tamriel.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:07 am

Is it the size of Tamriel? or the size of a single provence?

probably a decent size, and I'd guesstimate it as being bigger than Vvardenfell, smaller than tamriel.

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:43 pm

Akavir is smaller than Tamriel, but bigger than Old Ehlnofey. It's just an idea, albeit one that occasionally sends armies to invade the 'real' world of Tamriel.

I hope that that is a joke, as Old Ehlnofey is the size of Tamriel + all other continents.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:11 am

Akavir is smaller than Tamriel, but bigger than Old Ehlnofey. It's just an idea, albeit one that occasionally sends armies to invade the 'real' world of Tamriel.

As Don't Forget This pointed out, when Nirn was first created, it was mainly land with seas. All the current landmasses (Yokuda, Tamriel, Akavir, Atmora, maybe some other stuff that I forgot/haven't been discovered) were together in one Pangaea-like supercontinent. THAT is Ehlnofey. And your second sentence just doesn't make any sense. Akavir is just as real as Tamriel, certainly not "just an idea." And that has no relation to size. Unless you've invented a new definition for the word without telling any of us.

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:14 pm

so one country really could have 1000 seperate islands?

Why not? It's not inconceivable to imagine. It's the perfect habitat for a race of simians. I can understand how they are able to fight back invasions from the Snow Demons every summer.

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:37 pm

I haven't found a good source of exactly how big it is. But I would say that it's atleast bigger then Tamriel.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:24 am

Old Ehlnofey is a concept, not a place, rather like the idea of the New Jerusalem in Judaism and Christianity.

Akavir has a mythic purpose in that it represents the threat of the unknowable other. It doesn't really have any existence independent of its relation to Tamriel.

IMO OF COURSE

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:57 am

Old Ehlnofey is a concept, not a place, rather like the idea of the New Jerusalem in Judaism and Christianity.

Akavir has a mythic purpose in that it represents the threat of the unknowable other. It doesn't really have any existence independent of its relation to Tamriel.

IMO OF COURSE

I'm pretty sure those invasions of Tamriel were real, and involved real entities. One of them ruled the Empire for a hundred years for crying out loud.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:19 am

Yep, as I said.

» Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:17 am

Well go to the fighters guild in bruma and go to the basment. There is a book called disaster at (something that begins with l) I think its Lonith. It describes what happened when The Emprire invaded the reptile dudes

» Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:33 pm

The Disaster at Ionith. The Tsasci didn't bead the Imperials, bad military tactics did. if they had a true Nordic leader, we would have Snakes working in the Morrowind mines and Tigers running from Umbriel.