how bullet penetration should be : Fallout Series Discussion

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:54 pm

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.192012-Marine-Mike-Reviews-Bullet-Penetration

Not really a suggestion, but more of a heads up for an idea what bullet penetration really should be in Fallout. Not all cover stops bullets.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:02 pm

So you are tying to tell me hiding behind a car door or thin wall will not save me from a rifle bullet? Who would have known that? :rolleyes:

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:44 pm

It would be cool to have depleted uranium bullets, very poweful. Able to pierce many things, nothing in Fallout would be safe.

Today, the one thing I know that uses them are A-10 Thunderbolt's or warthogs, which is also name the tank destroyer.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:37 pm

It would be cool to have depleted uranium bullets, very poweful. Able to pierce many things, nothing in Fallout would be safe.

Today, the one thing I know that uses them are A-10 Thunderbolt's or warthogs, which is also name the tank destroyer.

The sabot rounds tanks fire also use DU.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:29 pm

It would be cool to have depleted uranium bullets, very poweful. Able to pierce many things, nothing in Fallout would be safe.

Today, the one thing I know that uses them are A-10 Thunderbolt's or warthogs, which is also name the tank destroyer.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/.50_caliber_round_(Fallout_Tactics)

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:59 pm

EDIT: Ignore this here post.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:22 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saboted_Light_Armor_Penetrator_%28SLAP%29 rounds.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:34 am

Eddo, as I said in another thread. Stop, Think, ask yourself "is this fun?".

Answer here = no. The forum would be full of annoyed gamers complaining about magic bullets going through cover and killing them.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:19 am

The Warthog is the most common use of the rounds, which are 30 caliber. At least in the US.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:58 pm

The Warthog is the most common use of the rounds, which are 30 caliber. At least in the US.

All US anti-tank rounds are DU (provided they're not HEAT rounds). They're used in everything from tanks to A-10s to even the Apache's gun.

And it's use is very controversial because of claims that it is highly toxic.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:58 am

All US anti-tank rounds are DU (provided they're not HEAT rounds). They're used in everything from tanks to A-10s to even the Apache's gun.

And it's use is very controversial because of claims that it is highly toxic.

Only the dust is controversial. Once the DU round hits its target and becomes dust. Battlefield clean up after the 1st Gulf War is when that controversy started (I think).

I wouldn't mind seeing DU .50cal rounds come back to Fallout but we need a HMG first to make it worth it for me.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:18 am

All US anti-tank rounds are DU (provided they're not HEAT rounds). They're used in everything from tanks to A-10s to even the Apache's gun.

And it's use is very controversial because of claims that it is highly toxic.

Regardless of what uses them, the A-10's 30 caliber version is the most commonly used.

I don't think if someone stumbled on how to make them or any amount of them that they would complain that they were toxic in Fallout.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:15 pm

Regardless of what uses them, the A-10's 30 caliber version is the most commonly used.

I don't think if someone stumbled on how to make them or any amount of them that they would complain that they were toxic in Fallout.

And I think you mean 30mm.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:57 pm

Yeah that's what i meant, anyways what I said still stands, most commonly used.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:11 am

Yeah that's what i meant, anyways what I said still stands, most commonly used.

Most common or not, it's still irrelevant. DU rounds still come in many shapes and sizes. Whether it's the 120mm tank gun, the 30mm from the A-10 or Apache guns or the 20mm from the Cobra guns. I don't know of any specific .50 caliber DU rounds, but the SLAP ammunition I linked to earlier use tungsten, but could easily us DU instead. And that's the important thing. That it can be and is used in smaller ammunition.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:05 pm

Alright now that this has been established would these basically destroy someone in power armor? I think it would definately be a hinderence. Maybe it could be ultra rare for some gun such as an anti-materiel rifle. Just on the idea FO 4 will have DT and DR, the bullets would say something like, bypasses all Damage Threshhold and damage resistance, but say there is only 20 of them locked deep in a dungeon.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:04 pm

If DU rounds destroy tanks, power armor won't stand much of a chance. Plus, it has a nifty property in that they are pyrophoric. Meaning that when they hit and shatter into tiny particles, those particles combust in a fireball. So the round would hit the PA, punch through it and combust inside.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:38 pm

Eddo, as I said in another thread. Stop, Think, ask yourself "is this fun?".

Answer here = no. The forum would be full of annoyed gamers complaining about magic bullets going through cover and killing them.

Actually yes, you just have to be smarter with your cover. A little verisimilitude doesn't necessarily take fun away.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:00 am

If DU rounds destroy tanks, power armor won't stand much of a chance. Plus, it has a nifty property in that they are pyrophoric. Meaning that when they hit and shatter into tiny particles, those particles combust in a fireball. So the round would hit the PA, punch through it and combust inside.

Also when the particles shatter they remain sharp, so those could still blast through other parts too.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:14 pm

Also when the particles shatter they remain sharp, so those could still blast through other parts too.

I think the self-sharpening aspect comes into play really on the initial impact and penetration. In that it strikes, then fractures in a way that remains sharp, instead of blunting on impact. Once it gets through, though, I'm not sure how much secondary penetration you're going to get.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:04 pm

I think the self-sharpening aspect comes into play really on the initial impact and penetration. In that it strikes, then fractures in a way that remains sharp, instead of blunting on impact. Once it gets through, though, I'm not sure how much secondary penetration you're going to get.

Isn't google great

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:52 am

Isn't google great

Meh, I've been doing research on DU and sabot rounds recently for something I'm working on.

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:03 am

Is it some mod? Seems conveinent I brought it up, don't get me wrong I believe you.

Did you use google for previous research?

» Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:18 am

Is it some mod? Seems conveinent I brought it up, don't get me wrong I believe you.

Did you use google for previous research?

Yeah. It was part of the research I did related to http://www.newvegasnexus.com/imageshare/image.php?id=18033. (if you click on the author (me), you can see other pics related to the mod.)

And yes, I used lots of google. It's the easiest way to do quick research.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:41 pm

For ammo penetration research, just go here.

http://www.theboxotruth.com/