How can people play such a buggy game?

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:19 am

No mods starting the game to test its performance. The game stutters all the time, if you look at a wall of no particle interest framerate has a fit and drops to 30s an sometimes into 20s from 60fps. Even with oblvion stutter remover oblivion is just a mess to run and play. Fallout 3 has its issues but the stuttering is hardly their and oblivion stutter remover practically removes 98% of stuttering. How any of you can play this buggy game i do not know. Its a shame as ive always wanted to play oblivion modded up but im the type of person who cannot stand framerate issues and stuttering that this game has very bad, Shame on you bathesda for not sorting it out. I may get a bashing but im just giving my opinion and stuff so dont have a go guys.
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No mods starting the game to test its performance. The game stutters all the time, if you look at a wall of no particle interest framerate has a fit and drops to 30s an sometimes into 20s from 60fps. Even with oblvion stutter remover oblivion is just a mess to run and play. Fallout 3 has its issues but the stuttering is hardly their and oblivion stutter remover practically removes 98% of stuttering. How any of you can play this buggy game i do not know. Its a shame as ive always wanted to play oblivion modded up but im the type of person who cannot stand framerate issues and stuttering that this game has very bad, Shame on you bathesda for not sorting it out. I may get a bashing but im just giving my opinion and stuff so dont have a go guys.


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Kayla Keizer
 
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:48 pm

I have no FPS issue with Oblivion.

What are your computer specifications?

Oblivion is very CPU intense.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:55 am

No mods starting the game to test its performance. The game stutters all the time, if you look at a wall of no particle interest framerate has a fit and drops to 30s an sometimes into 20s from 60fps. Even with oblvion stutter remover oblivion is just a mess to run and play. Fallout 3 has its issues but the stuttering is hardly their and oblivion stutter remover practically removes 98% of stuttering. How any of you can play this buggy game i do not know. Its a shame as ive always wanted to play oblivion modded up but im the type of person who cannot stand framerate issues and stuttering that this game has very bad, Shame on you bathesda for not sorting it out. I may get a bashing but im just giving my opinion and stuff so dont have a go guys.

Framerate issues =/= bugs.

I have no framerate issues. If you are, turn your video settings down. I don't see why looking at a wall would do anything but increase framerate, honestly. I'm not sure what you mean by stutter, but the game has a lot to load, if you're in wide open areas, or a dungeon cell that is particularly large, then there are going to be times when the game needs to take a moment to load distant objects.

It's also worth noting that the game was made in 2006.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:30 am

Framerate issues =/= bugs.

I have no framerate issues. If you are, turn your video settings down. I don't see why looking at a wall would do anything but increase framerate, honestly. I'm not sure what you mean by stutter, but the game has a lot to load, if you're in wide open areas, or a dungeon cell that is particularly large, then there are going to be times when the game needs to take a moment to load distant objects.

It's also worth noting that the game was made in 2006.



I understand the game has alot to load and that an ssd will help sort alot of that out. My system is more than capable of max settings. A core i7 at 3.2 with a geforce 470. Fallout 3 is fine but oblivion is not. If you look at certain spots framerate plummets. Reading around it happens to most so i cannot see how you guys mysterious dont have issues. Fallout 3 at times also has framerate issues that plummet looking at certain places from a distance. NMC who made the best texture pack for fallout 3 said that an SSD is the only way to fix this issue.

The game being made in 2006 is no excuse for the major bugs this game had, They didnt patch them but instead relied upon its modders to fix their game.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:05 am

Do you have a hardware sound card?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:56 pm

Do you have a hardware sound card?



I have an asus xonar DX.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:14 pm

Do you have a lot of programs running in the background?

Because seriously, I don't understand the fps problems. My system is similar and I don't have troubles. Even without mods. :unsure:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:15 am

Do you have a lot of programs running in the background?

Because seriously, I don't understand the fps problems. My system is similar and I don't have troubles. Even without mods. :unsure:



no. I not did a format also. I have had the same issues with oblivion for the last few years. Maybe i am unlucky but their should be no issues on my current system.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:51 pm

Play it on console.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:37 am

This is out of my reach then. I don't know what to think as I am not an expert. :(
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:27 am

The game being made in 2006 is no excuse for the major bugs this game had, They didnt patch them but instead relied upon its modders to fix their game.

They did release several patches, which did not fix EVERY bug in the game, but how many games do you know that have 0 bugs? Especially considering it's an open-world game with advanced AI with schedules that can conflict and the potential for problems being enormous. They also certainly didn't just rely on modders to fix their game, seeing as it was sold more on consoles than on PC, so that wouldn't make any sense. Even The Unofficial Oblivion Patch, a modded patch that has been updated several times, still does not fix every bug in the game.

But I'm not sure what "major bugs" you're referring to, since I and many others, as stated, do not have FPS or stuttering issues, and I've been playing Oblivion for years, pretty much since release.

My only recommendations to increase FPS is to disable grass or to make sure your video card isn't overheating or something.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:33 am

They did release several patches, which did not fix EVERY bug in the game, but how many games do you know that have 0 bugs? Especially considering it's an open-world game with advanced AI with schedules that can conflict and the potential for problems being enormous. They also certainly didn't just rely on modders to fix their game, seeing as it was sold more on consoles than on PC, so that wouldn't make any sense. Even The Unofficial Oblivion Patch, a modded patch that has been updated several times, still does not fix every bug in the game.

But I'm not sure what "major bugs" you're referring to, since I and many others, as stated, do not have FPS or stuttering issues, and I've been playing Oblivion for years, pretty much since release.

My only recommendations to increase FPS is to disable grass or to make sure your video card isn't overheating or something.


So you one of the rare few who doesnt need to use oblivion stutter remover. So oblivion mysterious runs on your pc without a hitch? I find that hard to beleive when the engine is not very good.

Well thank god skyrim is getting a new engine. Morrowind was dodgy with framerate, oblivion is terrible with framerate, fallout 3 got alot better with the framerate but still needed to help from the community.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:31 pm

So you one of the rare few who doesnt need to use oblivion stutter remover. So oblivion mysterious runs on your pc without a hitch? I find that hard to beleive when the engine is not very good.


You can cool it with the attitude man, it doesn't help with getting results when you talk like that.

Never ran OB on PC (due to my system), so all I can suggest is what Velorien said. Try turning the grass off and lowing the texture quality, a game doesn't have to look amazing to be fun to play.I mean look at Morrowind, Arx Fatalis, even Minecraft, all great games that dont have very good graphics.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:53 am

So you one of the rare few who doesnt need to use oblivion stutter remover.


Perhaps a more accurate translation of your meaning is, "So you're one of those who disagree with me, and whom I'm going to present as being in a very small minority over the matter of the stutter remover, with the hopes that no one realizes this." ;) Instead of making assumptions, you might try placing a thread about framerates in the mod forum, which is the best attended Oblivion forum here, and ask if anybody has managed to achieve a good FPS without the OSR before applying mods. If you're openminded enough to accept views that aren't necessarily those you want to hear, I think you'll find quite a few people who will speak up positively. After all, the question has arisen, before.

For the record, I had a great FPS for Oblivion on this machine (about two years old) until I decided to load it down with more high-end textures, lots of animated NPCs, etc. Even so, with OSR and one or two other tools helping I get a pretty consistent 30-40 FPS.

Of course, if you're looking to pick a fight over Fallout 3's engine taking better advantage of newer CPUs and RAM, you're due for a disappointment. No one's going to argue with this. The point isn't that Fallout 3 does this better, but that a lot of people find Oblivion handles it sufficiently well to please them, and prefer the older game.

So oblivion mysterious runs on your pc without a hitch? I find that hard to beleive when the engine is not very good.


On the other hand, I've found that when we have unshakeable beliefs in place, it's very hard to pay attention to little things like evidence that goes against them. Good thing I never, ever felt that way... :whistling:
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:53 am

I didn't even get stutter on my old pc which just barely squeaked under the specs. And I somehow doubt this game would have gotten the ratings it got, and kept selling as it has if 95% of the users had FPS and stuttering issues.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:25 am

I don't know that much about computers. Mine has quite a bit of gigajuice they tell me, and it has pretty blue lights and whirring fans and such. Regardless, I run a fairly simple game with about 25 mods and I'm very happy with how it runs. I'm not familiar with the stutter remover mod you refer to. Sorry you're having troubles.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:04 am

I have hundreds of hours in the game, on two different computers, with plenty of mods, and I don't use the stutter remover either.

On the other hand, I don't have a frame-rate meter going all the time, either. Maybe I'm not having as much fun as I think I am. :wink_smile:
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:02 pm

Vanilla Oblivion runs fine on my PC on mid settings, and mine doesn't sound as good as yours.

My Framerate only started to drop when I downloaded a lot of mods.

Is your computer filled with a lot of other things? Thats the only thing I can think of and I don't even know if it would affect the game.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:33 pm

I'm running a very slightly more powerful system to the OP but I've never once had a problem with Frame Rates or anything at all. Personally I'm struggling how someone would be watching FPS at all while playing such a great game? I started playing Oblivion when it first came out and have slowly built my PC up over the years and its just got better with age. I run less mods then most people for a PC user as I only currently run 4 at the moment and even with my settings at max I'm able to run about 60fps nearly all of the time.

Are you really sure that you are not running anything in the back ground. Try turning off Virus Scans aswell or settting them so that they run at certain times. Its something that many people forget about but they do affect the overall performance of your system while they are running.

As for the mod you are talking about, I can't find it on NES so I'm afraid I don't believe you about it. Prehaps a link to clear that up?

If your still not happy with it. Go buy a console and play it on there.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:51 am

Our systems are similar, yours being slightly better CPU wise. Mine is i7 2.8ghz, GTX470, 6gb ram, X-fi sound card. While I do experience occasional stutters and lag, it doesn't seem excessive to me for the amount of landscape "eye candy" mods I run. Is your OSR one of the most recent versions? And is Heap Replacement utilized? I'm partial to this OSR heap setting, though I understand best results vary from user to user. Alterations are highlighted in green.

Master = {
_comment = You can turn on or off each distinct feature from here.
bManageFPS = 1
bHookCriticalSections = 1
bHookHashtables = 1
bReplaceHeap = 1
bLogToConsole = 0
bFix64Hertz = 1
bExtraProfiling = 0
bFlushLog = 1
iSchedulingResolution = 1
bReplaceRandom = 1
bExperimentalStuff = 1
iMainHookPoint = 1



Heap = {
_comment = Heap replacement can produce MAJOR improvements in performance on Oblivion at a significant cost in stability
_comment = It crashes instantly on Fallout3, and would only produce a small performance improvement there anyway
_comment = It is not supported at all on Fallout: New Vegas at this time
_comment = Algorithms: 1=FastMM4, 2=Microsoft (slow on XP), 3=SimpleHeap1, 4=TBBMalloc, 5=ThreadHeap2, 6=ThreadHeap3, 8=tcmalloc
_comment = Algorithms numbers 1, 4, and 8 require external DLL files in the Data/OBSE/Plugins/ComponentDLLs folder
iHeapAlgorithm = 6
bEnableProfiling = 0
iHeapSize = 1024
bEnableMessages = 0
iGenericFreeDelay = 0
bZeroAllocations = 0



Yes, it would be wonderful if Bethesda updated Oblivion's engine to take better advantage of both modern GPUs (including SLI/CF support) and multi-core CPUs, as well as utilize more system memory when available. Alas, at this late date this seems unlikely.

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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:51 am

I run Oblivion on ultra graphics absolutely smoothly provided I toggle grass off, which I have to do anyway to make it run smooth, which is fine for me because I find the grass ugly. I toggled it off in the first place because I hated it and found it made my game run smoother. I run several mods as well.
I game on an Acer Aspire laptop too. With average specs. Performance did improve after finally updating my drivers.
And as for bugs, the only bug I have experienced that has been frustrating has been on about three different occasions in over 150 hours gameplay where sneaking in certain locations and next to a wall makes the entire screen go grey, remedied by exiting sneak mode.
So, in response to your question, OP, I can play it because it's simply not that bad. At all. The majority of the views expressed in this thread support that.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:25 am

I run it perfectly fine on a slightly higher specced PC. And I ran it perfectly at high settings ( no AA ) on a much older system.

But I've seen Oblivion play up more then once on some systems, without explanation. Some hardware settings are just not liked by it.
anyway, one suggestion I can offer is putting vSync off ( if turned on ). that could solve the issue as it synchronises your framerate with your monitors refresh rate. Thus effectively putting a cap on maximum FPS.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:07 am

Buggy? BUGGY?? Have you ever played VTM:Bloodlines unpatched? :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:51 am

As for the mod you are talking about, I can't find it on NES so I'm afraid I don't believe you about it. Prehaps a link to clear that up?

Here it is: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208 by SkyRanger-1. Like many others here, I've never felt the need to use it. I get the occasional stuttering in cities, using Better Cities and several other mods) and occasional stuttering in the Gold Coast region when I turn the camera to face a lot of grass, but otherwise Oblivion runs fine for me as well.
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