How can this be? This can't be possible.

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:54 pm

Why exactly are we worrying about this?
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sara OMAR
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:00 pm

Hands down, favorite thread of the day. The entire time I'm feeling like Special Agent Smecker from Boondock Saints:

Paul Smecker: These burns indicate that they used silencers. Look at these entry and exit wounds. They're almost identical. The two bullets went in here, through the top of the skull, criss-crossed, and exited through the eyeballs. This one clue tells us three distinct facts. Number one, Duffy?
Detective Duffy: They shot him at a downward angle... They put him on his knees?
Paul Smecker: Excellent! Number two, Greenly?
Detective Greenly: They... shot him at a downward angle?
Paul Smecker: It tells us he was the last to die. And number three, Dolly?
Detective Dolly: Uh... there was two shooters.
Paul Smecker: Fan-frigging-tastic.
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Charlotte X
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:43 pm

It was obviously SCIENCE!!!!
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natalie mccormick
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:40 pm

back...and to the left
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:10 pm

Why exactly are we worrying about this?

I am not worring about it. It's just one of those things, that I can't wrap my head around. Every time I see the video, I wunder is it one shooter or 2? If it's just one shooter, how? LOL. It's not a big deal, thought we could have some fun talking about it. Sheesh some people just take the fun out of it.

:fallout:
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Hussnein Amin
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:33 pm

Han shot first.
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Jennifer Munroe
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:48 pm

the truth is...i shot the robot!! but i didnt shoot the deputy oh no noo!!!
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:52 pm

Even if the shooter wasn't exactly lined up with ED-E he would have been pushed off to the side. The best way I can illustrate it here would be this.

E = ED-E
S = Shooter
> = the 2 shot angles.
I I = road
                                          I   I                                          I   I                                          E                                         I   I   >S                                          E                                        I   I                                        I   I


Even not being exactly lined up, the shooter would be able to hit his target like this and assuming he's using a high caliber sniper rifle the bullet impact would cause ED-E to veer off the road for a short time, as depicted.

Had to edit to wrap the illustration in code formatting because basic text formatting was not being preserved. :(



This is why I love these forums.
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Stephy Beck
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:25 pm

Its called reading in to much with game commercials.

If it is important we'll learn about it through the game.
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Annick Charron
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:05 pm

Do you make a habit of hanging out downrange?


ever heard of an indoor range?
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Monique Cameron
 
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:52 am

if the shooter was far away enough and at a moderately high position(this is easily done by the mojave desert)it would be possible
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Julie Ann
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:43 pm

Han shot first.



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Louise Lowe
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:58 pm

Grassy Knoll?


LOL, I was going to say that. It was obviously a magic bullet shot by a single shooter ;)
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Eilidh Brian
 
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:56 am

Han shot first.



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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:34 pm

Take this excellent ASCIIesq diagram and move shooter S even further to the right and the angle between shots at ED-E becomes much more acute. Move far enough to the right and it will virtualy be a straight line. Simple trigonometry really.


This is near-impossible. The ED-E was travelling at an estimated speed of about 30 MPH (13.4112 Meters Per Second), so between the first and second shot, there was 9 seconds. This means, that the ED-E traveled 120.7008 Meters (396.00000060192 Feet), Therefore, the shooter would have to have perfect accuracy, being able to shoot a target traveling 13.4 Meters Per Second, with a distance of 120.7 meters difference from where shooter was most likely 90 degrees from the ED-E. The angle would be obviously acute depending on the laws of geometry.

My guess is that the shooter was using an aimbot they downloaded, intended for MMOs.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:33 pm

|         ||   O   | shot 1                  shooter 1 (with good accuracy) --- S|    |    | |    |    |  }-120.7 Meters                   |    |    ||    V   ||   O   | shot 2                  shooter 2 (with good accuracy) --- S



Also, the frame after the 2nd shot shows the ED-E zooming into the camera, then briefly showing a part where a character fires a sniper rifle round. Sniper rounds (when brand-new) with a brand-new rifle, (.308 rounds such as in FO3) would hit the ground at 5 miles, and this is in pristine condition. It's probably half of that because the rifles are old and probably in poor condition, so the shooter couldn't have been more than 2.5 miles away. Being this far, and having to shoot a target that is moving 30MPH and is (guessing) 14 inches in diameter, you have to consider the wind direction and speed, roll of the bullet, condition of the rifle, condition of the shooter's cerebral cortex (which controls fine movement), and experience.

The shooter was standing up, therefore the supporting arms were in freehand mode. Nothing was supporting the arm still, so this is hard to believe.

The shooter was also not seen anywhere in the video (otherwise suggesting the clip after the ED-E is hit for the second time. Shooter(s) must have been far away.

I conclude with this being horribly unlikely.

It was an error.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:50 pm

.....Are we seriously arguing over a 4 month old trailer? Oh god, I hate pre-release tensions. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:45 pm

Wow I actually fell dumber having read all the posts on this thread..

No offence everyone.. though thank you Op it did kill a bit of time till the game comes out
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:16 am

well to get a answer we must ask Obsidian!!!
whose with me?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:01 pm

well to get a answer we must ask Obsidian!!!
whose with me?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:01 pm

I am shure we all saw the previews for F:NV where the flying robot (sorry forgot the name of it) is hovering over the desert wasteland road and gets shot. Once hit, it moves perpendicular to the road. Straight off the road and comes back. To me that would mean the shooter was straight on him for to move back like he did. But then he travels some more, so I am guessing what 10 or so meters or 30 feet or so. He gets shot again. Again he moves off perpendicular to the road. How can this be? He already has moved so he is not straight on to the shooter anymore.

So this is either a different shooter this time, or a mistake was made. The video looks so real, that I just can't stop thinking of this. How can it be the same shooter unless the shooter was moving with the flying robot as well.

Yeah I know it's not a big deal, but is there an explanation for this?

Definitely a second shooter in the grassy knoll
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:13 am

Ugh, why'd ya have to of all threads out there bump this one. :meh:

And I've only skimmed through it so I'll say same shooter.
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