Yah but how long have they all been there?? For a little while now not to mention mr. house. I think some rebuilding could happen...

And some has happened. Look at the Strip, for example. The outskirts of Vegas, there are working farmlands with irrigation and even greenhouses built. There is electricity. Goodsprings fares well by itself, with a watersource and farming. Nipton was a working little community. etc

The NCR and Legion use tents because their armies are on their way through the area. I think carrying around a brick house and several concrete bunkers would be somewhat cumbersome. Not to say, constructing them would take time, resources, a proper foundation, etc. A tent can be made from cotton.

Yah but overall thats the EASY rebuilding. im talking about some hard work. Rebuidling the tows to what the once were.

For that you can blame the crammed and greatly downscaled sandbox map, the engine and the given developement time. Nor would I think, they would've made it much bigger anyways. It's more of an abstraction than 1:1 depiction (1:1 would've been nigh impossible to create anyway).

Yah what are you talking about?

You wanted towns as they once were. I pointed out that giving those with current tools was not possible.

Yah and wasnt that easy to put it into simpler words?

:rolleyes: It was, actually. I'll keep in mind to keep it simple when replying to you.

Are you insulting my intelligence?

No.

Ok i was just wondering.

i agree epic, i've heard a lot of talk about how civilized new vegas is and all this rebuilbing going on, they can't have it both ways, they just can't explain why the map is 99% barren empty desert, if it was really rebuilding, there would be settllents all over the place, and not just in the city, and to another comment on here, i am hardly the only person who thinks new vegas is on the boring side after a short time of playing it, the polls here on the threads show 60% bored with the game, the game's life is really short, it was a good game but its beyond boring to never have other enemies spawn in an area or not having any random events or encounters at all, no factions anywhere, a huge desert with nothing but a lot of tents and shacks and the same static spawns etc, its gamebreaking.

Please, for the love of God, we get your point, its an OPINION, and besides, most said that they were not bored with the game.

New Vegas itself is not that rebuilt just yet, as the NCR has not gotten there yet. IF you go into NCR itself, the country has amazing infrastructure and security. Its almost like living in a pre-war world.

And plus, New Vegas is set in Vegas, and the region sourrounding it. If you look at a map, that area is not that big in real life, so settlements are few and far between and also, the NCR is rebuilt, and towns are days, if not weeks away from each other.

This. I can agree with most of this.

i agree epic
:celebration: putting up a few greenhouses and growing a few vegetables isn't much rebuilding, and as far as electricity, there was electricity in FO3 too, rivet city, megaton, tenpenny tower, enclave base, citadel etc, and the new vegas strip doesn't look all that great, its lit up, that sign guy got the signs working evidentaly but freeside looks like hell and so do all the other places in and around the city...out in the"wasteland" there isn't any rebuilding, no new towns, settlements, no groups actually out and about rebuilding anything, they never leave home, seriously, i think obsidian didn't have time to really make the open gameworld a real sandbox game, they made all the caves small, put up tents and one room shacks cause they don't require hardly any time and used the excuse that, "oh we want everything to be plausible" thats just code language for they didn't have the time to really fill the map up with legitimate areas and actually taking the time to build more settlements, if you're gonna talk about rebuilt civilizations etc and then leave the almost the entire map totally empty, its just a big contradiction, you can't have it both ways.

Because it's the Mojave [censored] wasteland. You're not really that shortsighted, that you cannot understand the concept of a wasteland and basic human behavior of gathering together and forming societies, are you? I've seen you post sensible things too. Where are those things now?

And its yet another paragraph from Westoftherockies saying how New Vegas is empty and theres nothing but shacks and tents. I think we're on number #371 by now.

Yah. Freeside looks like sh*t. But nobobys going to rebuild it. Because the real attraction is the strip. Its pretty sad that, thats the only real interesting thing there in NV. That is actually Awwww inspiring.

Rebuilt civilization doesnt mean flooding the map to look like D.C. and cramped with lots of city. Vegas is pretty accurately portrayed, a beacon of light in a desert of nothing. Also, that 'if you're gonna talk about rebuilt civilizations etc and then leave the almost the entire map totally empty' claim is so ridiculous and you know it. How so? Because Vegas, Goodsprings, NoVac, Primm, and all those other settlements, they are easier to rebuild because they are there. Rebuilding civilization DOESNT mean expanding into new lands, that's the sign of a burgeoning community needing more space, but those settlements were already there, why build filthy shacks made of scrap metal when you can restore a Four Seasons hotel to working order? Well, thats what they are doing. Reviving the old world. Just because F:NV isn't some mindless dungeon crawler doesn't make it a bad game. New Vegas has a great story, and it presents a very good model of a rebuilding community, just because you're refusing to take the time to observe everything you see in the game doesn't put the game at fault, it puts you at fault.

Im wondering why you qouted yourself. Alex.

West, this is the core region, which most of it is well rebuilt, cities are weeks away from each other.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080606162927/fallout/images/2/29/Western_USA_v1.0.jpg

easier than saying the same thing twice in a different way.

http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/d/d3/Fo2_New_California_Republic_Satellite_View.jpg

There's the NCR as it appears in Fallout 2.