How demanding is Qarl's Texture Pack III? : IV

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:09 pm

I run it maxed with quite a few mods, (Natural environments, BTMod, unofficial patches, and then a few extras like a keychain and Clocks of Cyrodiil).

I have an Intel i7 2600K (not overclocked), EVGA GTX 570, and 8 gig RAM. Will I run the game smoothly (maxed @ 1920x1080) with QTP3?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:13 am

The GTX 570 comes with 1.2 GB of VRAM, so that should be plenty for QTP3.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 am

With that, you can run 2 Oblivion at the same time!
(With 8 gig RAM, I hope you have a 64 bit OS)

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:45 am

Stick to the Redimized version. The full package can easily overpower a 1.2GB setup. I've seen QTP3 figures as high as 1.6GB VRAM.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:45 am

There is no reason to use the full version.I use the redimized one and I see no visual differences(or at least,these differences are not noticeable).Use the redimized and you won't be disappointed!;)

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:19 am

Hmm, how much of a performance improvement do you get for using the redimized version? I tried the full version and just uninstalled it as it was too demanding with my 512 vram.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:42 am

Even if the Redimized version is too demanding, you can have a look at QTP3 Redimized Reduced (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26038)
where you can choose between Lite, Regular, Max (see Screenshots for VRAM comparison).

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:52 pm

Even if the Redimized version is too demanding, you can have a look at QTP3 Redimized Reduced (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=26038)
where you can choose between Lite, Regular, Max (see Screenshots for VRAM comparison).

Well it depends on which mods you are going to use..I have a 512mb video card and I'm not sure I'll be able to run FCOM and qtp3 redimized along with other mods such as UL and BC

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:41 am

Always use the Redimized version. I can't remember the thread I saw it in (probably an OBGE thread) but there was a graph showing just how stressful texture load was with certain mods, and default QTP3 was insane. To the point that it affected more than just VRAM.

I have a 2GB GTX 560 Ti, a Vertex 3 SSD, 16GB of RAM and the same i7 as you, and I STILL use QTP3 redimized. Looks absolutely gorgeous, and runs like a dream (by Oblivion standards) at 20-30 fps (capped by OSR) with the 4096x4096 distant landscape textures, Open Cities Reborn, and RAEVWD.

There really isn't any discernible loss in quality by using Redimized. Your computer will be very thankful though!

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:55 pm

Actually I wonder who ever used the default QTP3 without bringing his system to its knees. I might recall that Qarl himself did all of the textures on a system with a 256Mb vram card.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:17 pm

I've used it before without much issue, but then you have to sacrifice so much in other texture related areas that it's not worth it in the end.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:26 am

I have a GTX260 898 vram card alongside a Q6600 @2.4ghz, 4GB RAM with FCOM installed. I will start adding QTP and unique landscape mods tomorrow but I am concerned. Will my setup be ok for the reoptimised texture mod? I am concerned because my setup is appalling with Morrowind with the best graphical options.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:05 am

I have a GTX260 898 vram card alongside a Q6600 @2.4ghz, 4GB RAM with FCOM installed. I will start adding QTP and unique landscape mods tomorrow but I am concerned. Will my setup be ok for the reoptimised texture mod? I am concerned because my setup is appalling with Morrowind with the best graphical options.

My old PC was exactly the same as yours, only with a 1GB GTX280. I found the biggest choice was either QTP3 Redimized, or RAEVWD. Such a difficult decision. Each ran fine alone (alongside hundreds of other mods) but together they crippled my framerate. You could always try experimenting with the QTP3 Redimized Reduced texture packs. Using the Lite option should be perfect for your card if you struggle with standard Redimized.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:01 am

My old PC was exactly the same as yours, only with a 1GB GTX280. I found the biggest choice was either QTP3 Redimized, or RAEVWD. Such a difficult decision. Each ran fine alone (alongside hundreds of other mods) but together they crippled my framerate. You could always try experimenting with the QTP3 Redimized Reduced texture packs. Using the Lite option should be perfect for your card if you struggle with standard Redimized.

Thanks darkstorne, I think I would prefer QTP over RAEVWD so I will just go for the redimized QTP. The fact that you say you could run it with hundreds of mods make me think I could get away with it.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:34 am

Thanks darkstorne, I think I would prefer QTP over RAEVWD so I will just go for the redimized QTP. The fact that you say you could run it with hundreds of mods make me think I could get away with it.

Yep, your computer is more than fine. The only bottleneck is the Q6600. Oblivion, being quite old, is designed for single core CPUs more than dual or quad core CPUs (and the game is a CPU-abusing [censored]). So having a low speed quad like the Q6600 is your biggest limiting factor. It's soooo annoying, given how awesome and reliable that CPU is for other games.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:17 am

Yep, your computer is more than fine. The only bottleneck is the Q6600. Oblivion, being quite old, is designed for single core CPUs more than dual or quad core CPUs (and the game is a CPU-abusing [censored]). So having a low speed quad like the Q6600 is your biggest limiting factor. It's soooo annoying, given how awesome and reliable that CPU is for other games.

That is annoying, probably one of the reasons why I only get 12 fps in seyda neen in Morrowind with all the scripts and extra NPC mods alongside darknuts textures and graphics extender settings. Is Oblivion a bit better optimized overall?

Is there anything I can do to get the best out of my Q6600? Can I dedicate a whole core to the game with nothing else interfering?

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:52 pm

The main limiting factor with RAEVWD is polygons, not VRAM. You can run it alongside QTP3 Redimized just fine. If you run into FPS trouble you don't like, reduce the options, as specified in the readme. Especially helpful are the uGridsDistantCount settings in the ini.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:13 am

I run it maxed with quite a few mods, (Natural environments, BTMod, unofficial patches, and then a few extras like a keychain and Clocks of Cyrodiil).

I have an Intel i7 2600K (not overclocked), EVGA GTX 570, and 8 gig RAM. Will I run the game smoothly (maxed @ 1920x1080) with QTP3?

That will handle the redimized version easily. I have a 1GB AMD Radeon HD 6950 from Sapphire and it barely breaks a sweat (~45-60fps depending on grass density and view distance).

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:40 am

With that, you can run 2 Oblivion at the same time!
(With 8 gig RAM, I hope you have a 64 bit OS)

I do.

Stick to the Redimized version. The full package can easily overpower a 1.2GB setup. I've seen QTP3 figures as high as 1.6GB VRAM.

What's the difference? I think I do have the full version. Could this be why I noticed some odd, faint lines moving up and down on my monitor? O.O

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:05 am

What's the difference? I think I do have the full version. Could this be why I noticed some odd, faint lines moving up and down on my monitor? O.O

"Redimized" is shorthand for "reduced and optimized". It is not drastically reduced however. So it is probably the best way to go, if only because it will leave you more room for other texture replacers and so on (e.g., LOD textures).

As for the moving lines, that would be either your monitor or your graphics card, most likely. Running out of VRAM will slow things down, dramatically, but it should not introduce such glitches, as far as I am aware.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:49 am

"Redimized" is shorthand for "reduced and optimized". It is not drastically reduced however. So it is probably the best way to go, if only because it will leave you more room for other texture replacers and so on (e.g., LOD textures).

As for the moving lines, that would be either your monitor or your graphics card, most likely. Running out of VRAM will slow things down, dramatically, but it should not introduce such glitches, as far as I am aware.

Thanks for the reply. Is there any way to figure out if it's my monitor or grpahics card?

I do have a ViewSonic monitor. Aren't they pretty crappy?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:01 am

Thanks for the reply. Is there any way to figure out if it's my monitor or grpahics card?

I do have a ViewSonic monitor. Aren't they pretty crappy?

Does it happen in other games, first of all?

Then, if you can, try either another monitor, or another graphics card. Maybe even try the onboard graphics from your motherboard. If it has any...

There are also monitor and GPU tests you can download, from various sites. Maybe try one of those?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:24 am

What's the difference? I think I do have the full version. Could this be why I noticed some odd, faint lines moving up and down on my monitor? O.O

Do you have V-sync off?

If yes, that's probably just harmless screen tearing.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:51 pm

Do you have V-sync off?

If yes, that's probably just harmless screen tearing.

I was just about to edit my previous post to say that! I had completely forgotten to ask, before. If it is more like regular, uniform lines, however, I doubt that it is screen tearing.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:56 am

I was just about to edit my previous post to say that! I had completely forgotten to ask, before. If it is more like regular, uniform lines, however, I doubt that it is screen tearing.

What are V-Sync and screen tearing?

And I actually notice the lines most when on this site. Occasionally in Oblivion. I can't remember it ever happening in the little bit of Starcraft 2 I've played.

My worry is that running QTP3 has damaged my video card (although the game never really lagged with it that much, just the occasional slight stutter).