I want an NPC to have different dialogue responses when he's under one of "mind altering" spells. Currently I do it by having in his script code like

short me_charmedif ( GetEffect, sEffectCharm == 1 )	set me_charmed to 1else	set me_charmed to 0endif

for every spell effect I want detected and then using those local vars in dialogue conditions. The imperfection of this method, though, is that I can't detect the strength of a spell the NPC was hit by. So a 1-point Charm will always give a positive response, even though it doesn't affect the target much, and there's no point to use a stronger spell that, according to common sense, would have a real effect with substantial probability of failure. Well, I could also include Player->GetIllusion check into equation, but it's not the same thing. Does anybody have an idea how to make this work realistically and not just so-so?

Thanks.

You could do something like this:

Begin somescriptshort me_charmedfloat local_dispfloat tempif ( GetEffect, sEffectCharm == 1 )	if ( me_charmed == 0 )		set temp to GetDisposition		if ( temp > 99 )			set me_charmed to 1			Return		endif		set temp to ( temp - local_disp )		if ( temp >= 20 )			set me_charmed to 1		else			set me_charmed to -1		endif	endif	Returnendifset me_charmed to 0set local_disp to GetDispositionEnd

In this case, me_charmed will be set to 1 when:

( NPC is under a charm effect and has 100 disposition )

OR

( NPC is under a charm effect of 20+ magnitude )



Still not perfect, but perhaps it's closer to your goal.

I suppose it must be

Begin somescriptshort me_charmedfloat local_dispfloat tempif ( GetEffect, sEffectCharm == 1 )	if ( me_charmed == 0 )		set temp to GetDisposition		if ( temp > 99 )			set me_charmed to 1			Return		endif		set temp to ( temp - local_disp )		if ( temp >= 20 )			set me_charmed to 1		else			set me_charmed to -1		endif	endif	ReturnELSE	set me_charmed to 0	set local_disp to GetDispositionendifEnd

Well, this might actually work. Perhaps (I'll have to check that in game) Calm Humanoid, and Demoralize Humanoid might be detected similarly by Fight and Flee levels. The question how to measure Command Humanoids, though, seems to be still open. Anyway, thanks.

does command change the NPC's ai package to follow? if so and not an NPC that is a companion or otherwise scripted to follow, you could just check for the effect and that the NPC is in aifollow.

Yes, but it only gives 1/0 result; GetEffect sEffectCommandHumanoids does essentially the same. I want not just the fact of the spell working but its amplitude. [shrug] Of course, it's not *really* that important, using Command in this way only serves a roleplaying rather than gameplaying purpose. It's just that I tend to be a perfectionist about things I do.

Using Return in the first if structure already makes it work like that. You can either use else or return. Using both does not hurt but is unnecessary.

but isnt command a binary, style effect? it works or it doesent, as magnitude is based on target level, or is there a formula for the spell that i dont know about?

if it does function the way i think, would it not satisfy your RP to do the geteffect check?

or can you not hijack effects (like resist corpus and blight and such) add these effects to the vanilla command spells, and check magnitude by checking for the command effect in conjunction with the effects for the different magnitudes (lowest magnitude would be just effect x, while highest could be effects x, y, and z)

that might conflict with other mods that script spells the same way, however.

Actually, you're right, I didn't think about it. Yes, level-based success is perfectly all right with me... I don't even have to check AI package for it, as GetEffect does all I really need in this case. :celebration: Thanks.