How did Zelda beat Skyrim?

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:56 am

I blame Morrowind dissidents


Dissident priests?
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Rachie Stout
 
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:54 pm

Zelda is a beast. It's also not rated M.


Yep, just like Hollywood Movies, if it has an R rating, it will not do as well at the box office. Same with games. Although one would think that Age Ratings would not have that much of an impact on game sales, being that most folks who do buy games are old enough for Mature rated games.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:19 pm

While I agree with some of your statements, shouldn't COD be the all-times GOTY then? After all they are milking the same formula every year. :teehee:


As I heard, a lot of COD fans finally saw the light after MW3. They probably wouldve gone to BF3 but then EA had to screw that up with Origin.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:55 pm

However, theres never much re-invention in Zelda, as its the same re-hashed combat system and mechanics over and over.





Just to be clear, we ARE talking about Skyward Sword and Skyrim, right?

Yknow, the game where your wiimote controls the movement of the sword directly, and the other game where you click a button nonstop?
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:25 pm

I would rate legend of zelda on the snes alongside skyrim, still have it in the attic played that game to death looking for pieces of heart.

That said im 27 now and havent played a zelda game since but can easily see the pull, anyone remember secret of mana btw awesome game.


Secret of mana was a good game, and I agree with you, Zelda on the snes was friggen epic.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:17 pm

Meh, voting for AC over Zelda. Dislike both games but I'd rather see AC win over SS anyday. Game is just way too cartoonish. Maybe I'd vote for it if i was 15 years younger and even that would probably be stretching it.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:49 am

TES, on the other hand, tries to change up their formula every time they do something. Every game they make is only similar to the previous games in that it's an open world. That's it. Character skills, abilities, levelling, puzzles, NPC behavior, Boss Battles, the magick system, everything TES does gets changed every time. When you buy any given TES game in the series, you have no idea what you are going to get.

I don't like that. I enjoy TES, but their systems are always in flux which means they always have the glitches and bugs and problems that are associated with a first effort. TES is not polished. It's shiny, but it's not polished. Zelda is.


I personally don't mind if they change things - change keeps it fresh, and should help move the game toward further greatness. The problems arise when they change things for the sake of change rather than for the sake of improvement, when they don't change (or even notice) things that badly need improvement, and/or when they confuse "fix what was broken before" with "scrap what was broken before and start over".

The ideal is that they would take a few steps forward on each new title, getting better and better at what is the core of the game. What we have instead is some sort of demented dance step: one step forward, two steps back, shuffle sideways, do a backflip, etc.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:32 pm

While I agree with some of your statements, shouldn't COD be the all-times GOTY then? After all they are milking the same formula every year. :teehee:

almost want to say yes, but only if that formula is superior to other formulas. In that regard, it's not. You don't get points for repeating the same game over and over. You get points for repeating the same great game over and over.

Not only that, but I've only ever played CoD multiplayer, and I think that's true of most people. Because of that, it's hard to do anything rather unique or memorable. Once you have a control scheme that works, and your concept is "shoot the other team," well, I mean, what exactly are you going to change?

Zelda has the benefit of being single-player, which allows them to create as interesting a story as they want, every time. So while it's the same concept over and over, it's a new place, time, environment, and story. That's superior to CoD in every way.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:58 pm

Just to be clear, we ARE talking about Skyward Sword and Skyrim, right?

Yknow, the game where your wiimote controls the movement of the sword directly, and the other game where you click a button nonstop?


This has more to do with the Console than which the game itself. Being a Classical Sword-and-Shield Game in a Wii is a given to having to directly control your sword.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:02 pm

I'd like to see your definition of Ambition. Just because Zelda didn't put their effort into making a an enormous game space and a fancy 3D map that doesn't even mark known roads, or high resolution graphics that won't even matter because you can't load the game, that means they put less effort in? How about that really ambitious shadow rendering system that doesn't even work?

What about things like an interesting story, unique boss battles, memorable places, memorable NPCs, and a never-failing classic mission to save "the princess?" What about making dungeons that are vertical and horizontal? What about making puzzles that actually take an ounce of brain power? What about making unique items in the game that actually make a difference once you get them?

None of that counts as ambition?

As far as technical development Skyward Sword was probably the least ambitious game in the competition. Severely dated engine and premise.

An enormous sandbox game like Skyrim has millions upon millions of potential scripting, AI and load issues just because of what it's attempting. Skyward Sword is a great game and all but it attempted nothing from a technical standpoint.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:17 pm

Meh, voting for AC over Zelda. Dislike both games but I'd rather see AC win over SS anyday. Game is just way too cartoonish. Maybe I'd vote for it if i was 15 years younger and even that would probably be stretching it.


Eh? You hate the game because of its artsyle? Team Fortress 2 is very cartoonish, and it's a game where people explode into gore-y giblits and cuss at each other. And don't get me started on Conker's Bad Fur Day.

Anyway, cartoony artsyle doesn't mean a game is for little kids, or not fun.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:56 pm

nintendo fans

I remember a character battle thing on gamefaqs by the last round the only people left where nintendo charicters.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:48 pm

Because instead of voting in a dumb website that is easily manipulated I play Skyrim.

Exactly :foodndrink:
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:10 pm

nintendo fans

I remember a character battle thing on gamefaqs by the last round the only people left where nintendo charicters.


That was actually an army of dedicated trolls from That-Website-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named. because the forum censors it.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:45 pm

As far as technical development Skyward Sword was probably the least ambitious game in the competition. Severely dated engine and premise.

An enormous sandbox game like Skyrim has millions upon millions of potential scripting, AI and load issues just because of what it's attempting. Skyward Sword is a great game and all but it attempted nothing from a technical standpoint.

I attempted to cure cancer today but failed. Should I win something anyway?
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:18 am

Vote Ac Rev Guys! We need it to Win! LoVE Ac....
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:01 pm

Someone said Zelda is not rated M.

Thats a good point but you also have to remember that Skyrim was on 3 systems to Zeldas 1.

So that more than makes up for it.....

Thats also why I don't understand how a single platform game has more boddies voting for it than a game that has PC, 360, and PS3.....eventhough the PS3 fans are frustrated with it.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:37 pm

With an arrow to the knee?
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:27 am

I attempted to cure cancer today but failed. Should I win something anyway?

Thing is Skyrim didn't fail. Worldwide acclaim; millions of fans playing the game with virtually no problems. I'd say curing cancer for 90% of the world is still better than not attempting a cure at all.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:14 pm

Firstly, if by "beat" you mean "beat on a single website awarding Game of the Year", you should know that Game of the Year is meaningless. It isn't official or regulated in any way, and it's given out by tons of websites and other sources. Not only that, but a game doesn't even have to win a single GOTY to make a GOTY Edition.

Secondly, you could at least be gracious in defeat. Both Skyrim and Skyward Sword are excellent games, and you could at least admit that instead of calling its fanbase "braindead fools". Also, Skyrim isn't exactly as innovative as you seem to believe. Yes, there's plenty of new and improved things and it is much better than Oblivion, but it's still quite similar to past Elder Scrolls games.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:57 am

G4 poll for GOTY. Zelda edged out Skyrim by 2% in the semi-finals. With Skyrim and Arkham City out of the way Zelda takes GOTY easy now.

Over AC:R ??? Have you played that game yet? It's bloody amazing.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:42 pm

Thing is Skyrim didn't fail. Worldwide acclaim; millions of fans playing the game with virtually no problems. I'd say curing cancer for 90% of the world is still better than not attempting a cure at all.


those 90% do not go online, there is a maginitude of problems in Skyrim no matter who you are. Nintendo overall has always been decent when it comes to somewhat polished games cannot say the same with any Bethesda game
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:25 pm

Haha, Zelda has been the same old poop that it has been for over 20 years. It's not even fun anymore. Skyrim is new, innovative, has a whole new engine with more gameplay, exploration, and customizable features and it still loses? Zelda fans are braindead fools.

Ever since Ocarina of time, Zelda has been regarded by many as one of the best franchises of all time. Zelda games are consistently good, and released at a high standard. TES games have more freedom, but are consistently less polished and with less interesting stories. I haven't played Skyward Sword, but I'm sure this has contributed to it winning.
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:05 pm

Over AC:R ??? Have you played that game yet? It's bloody amazing.

I'm guessing you climb on ledges and backstab political figures?
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Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:40 pm

Thing is Skyrim didn't fail. Worldwide acclaim; millions of fans playing the game with virtually no problems. I'd say curing cancer for 90% of the world is still better than not attempting a cure at all.


I don't see selling millions of copies as any indication of the quality of the game, but rather the quality of the expectations people had for the game. You don't think Skyrim failed. I did. I voted for SS. SS won.
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