How Far Would I Have To Fall To Break The Sound Barrier?

Post » Wed May 11, 2016 11:01 am

So how far would I have to fall before the speed of my descent broke the Sound Barrier?

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Ashley Tamen
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 9:33 pm

I don′t know but you certainly win the Most Random Thought Awards for today :D




I wonder if it′s actually possible to break the sound barrier just by falling. Might have to try it :P

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Ryan Lutz
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 4:06 pm

Distance doesn't matter, you would never reach the speed of sound. The aerodynamic drag will very quickly increase high enough to completely negate the acceleration effect of gravity. You will reach the so called terminal velocity.

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Kelli Wolfe
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 8:49 pm

Not possible on Earth, too thick athmosphere and too weak gravity.
Human's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_velocity is only 190 km/h, speed of sound is 1230 km/h.
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Kate Murrell
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 8:08 pm


Unless you jump from very high above the Earth, as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbN-cWe0A0. Lower air pressure = lower drag, also temperature is lower, which means the speed of sound is lower. His peak falling speed was approx. 1357 km/h, that is Mach 1.25 in these conditions.

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Jennie Skeletons
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 4:52 pm

I stand corrected then. He did fall almost from space, so drag was low enough to achieve that.
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sam
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 6:42 pm

I seem to recall the Grand Slam bomb was capable of breaking the sound barrier just by falling, though it was specially designed to do so. The human body is not, though.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_%28bomb%29: says "near supersonic", which means "not supersonic".
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Nienna garcia
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 6:23 pm

If salt is made up of Sodium, an element that explodes in water, and chlorine, an element that is toxic, how come the ocean doesn't become an overwhelmingly large explosion of toxic mist that kills everyone?



I guess what I'm trying to say is: how come this planet supports life?



also, how come people and buildings don't rise up and fall down due to the moon's gravity? This sort of ties in to the former question.

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Bek Rideout
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 5:27 am

Depending on the mass of something with the fixed speed of gravity, an object will reach a certain velocity point and won't fall any faster.


That's why the dropping a penny from a sky scraqer to kill someone is a myth. A penny won't go fast enough to kill anyone no matter how high it drops, just like a human won't break the speed of sound dropping by themselves.
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Matt Gammond
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 6:12 pm

Pure sodium is highly reactive, because it has a sole outer electron, which is loosely bound and just looking for something to react with. Pure chlorine is highly reactive, because it has an empty slot in its outer electron shell, just waiting to be filled (elementary chemistry, worth looking into). In salt, sodium has given its outer electron to chlorine, and the salt crystal is kept together by the electric attraction between the resulting charged sodium and chlorine ions. In other words, The elements are no longer highly reactive, because they have already reacted. Water is able to dissolve the ions from the salt crystal, but they still retain their charges, and are not as reactive as the original pure elements.



And for your information: salt is indeed a deadly toxin in anything but very small quantities, and excess salt in all our processed food could well be the single biggest killer these days. Just start eating a steady diet of salty junk food, hamburgers, and fries, and such, and see how long you survive. Although fish in the sea have developed mechanisms for getting rid of excess salt, humans and mammals have evolved in an environment where salt is a rarity, and they cannot properly deal with an excess. Even sea mammals like whales or dolphins cannot drink sea water, but have to get their "drinking" water from eating fish or other sea food.



They do, to an extent, as does the pavement, the bedrock, and the surrounding lawn, you just have not observed them keenly enough.

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Harry Leon
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 7:15 pm

And yet animals, including humans, can not live without any salt at all. Some herbivores, like deer actually have to lick rocks to get salt since they don't get any (or enough?) from their food.
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Laura
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 4:26 pm

I think Sheogorath has been playing around with the community discussion forum again!
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Dawn Porter
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 4:11 pm

Wait, what? Are you SURPRISED a thread went off-topic? :D

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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 9:12 pm

Exactly why it is experienced as tasting good. Mammals and humans have evolved to make use of whatever rare sources of salt they can discover, as they need some. Unfortunately, that makes it so difficult for us humans to decline a super-sized double portion of extra fries.

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The old falling discussion was boring already, as is now the salt and gravity one.

Sheogorath should wave the Wabbajack once again. I suggest pointing it at Bethesda.net.
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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 5:20 am

How about a classic?


A plane is on a giant treadmill runway which exactly matches the speed of the plane. Will the plane take off?



Spoiler
Pro tip: the answer is 'yes'

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Trista Jim
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 1:08 pm

Oh I got one! How fast does an escalater need to be moving for a person to fall perpetually?
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 6:34 am


Spoiler

No, because the pilot was too drunk to line the plane up with a moving runway. Then they realized they didn't stock enough bags of peanuts and had to return to the terminal. Otherwise it should be fine since the engines and wheels don't care what the ground is doing so long as it's solid...and flat...and stuff.



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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 3:14 pm

It would need to keep accelerating at 9.8 m/s^2 perpetually to maintain a "zero g" environment for the occupant. As long as the air inside is sealed off from the outside the occupant will never reach terminal velocity due to no air resistance. (This assumes the elevator is immune to air resistance/terminal velocity.)


Edit: my bad, thought you meant elevator. No idea on the escalator lol, you have to account for friction and such for someone falling down an upwards moving escalator.
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 10:34 am

Assuming there is no air resistance, and using the formula V=root of (2GH+Vo^2) where V is the speed of sound= 340.29m/s, G=9.8m/s^2 and Vo=0 you end up with about 5,908 meters I believe. Which would also only be about 34.72 seconds. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Jay Baby
 
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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 9:56 pm

Ah this makes sense.



A sonic boom looks like it would really knack a human body...



But when Baumgartner exceeded Mach 1... he did so without atmospheric resistance... and a Sonic Boom is created by the pressure exerted on the air... that in his case... was not there (and why he didn't create one himself)



You guys are so good.

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Post » Wed May 11, 2016 9:16 am



Haha I have never considered how difficult it would be to get onto said runway! Also i think there is a chance the wheels would take significant damage due to going too fast. For instance, on an Airbus 318/319/320/321 the maximum tyre speed is 195kts, but typical take off speed would be about 145kts, meaning a relative ground speed of 290kts, so 95kts, or 110mph, over the maximum tyre speed. Maybe it would get airborne but I'm not sure I would want it to!
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