How to find what a mod adds? : IV

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:32 am

Basically what the title says, I have a bunch of missing meshes, textures, and icons and I don't know what or how to find what causes it. Basically I'm missing meshes etc. for morrowind armors, certain potions, and certain creatures. mod list included just in case.

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Active Mod Files:

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» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:47 am

RefScope or FormID Finder will tell you which plugin owns an instance of a resource: http://tescosi.com/wiki/Oblivion:A_List_of_Troubleshooting_Aids

--Tomlong75210

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:17 am

Old school method - open the console click on the missing mesh or problem item - write down the formID number - then open the mod in Tes4edit and search that number - that will tell you texture and mesh paths and you can then hunt them down.

All RefScope and FormID do is make it so you can know the name of the mod while still in game. You are going to have to exit the game anyway so I've never really needed them.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:56 pm

Old school method - open the console click on the missing mesh or problem item - write down the formID number - then open the mod in Tes4edit and search that number - that will tell you texture and mesh paths and you can then hunt them down.

All RefScope and FormID do is make it so you can know the name of the mod while still in game. You are going to have to exit the game anyway so I've never really needed them.

That won't tell you about scripts and inventory. Those mods can save a lot of detective work.

--Tomlong75210

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:59 am

and another little perk to RefScope is on hitting the X key a container will either glow green or red letting you know that its safe or not to store items in it. ive had quite a few mods with missing icons so its been quite a valuable tool for me. not sure how i lived without it.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:57 am

While we are on Refscope, anyone know how to use it while in a menu? E.g, I have a particular knick-knack from a certain mod, how can I use Refscope to find it without dropping that knick-knack? And how about missing meshes - IIRC, Refscope cannot select those "WTF?" markers either.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:43 pm

While we are on Refscope, anyone know how to use it while in a menu? E.g, I have a particular knick-knack from a certain mod, how can I use Refscope to find it without dropping that knick-knack? And how about missing meshes - IIRC, Refscope cannot select those "WTF?" markers either.

IIRC WTF markers have collision so it's possible to select them. Default "!" markers didn't have collision.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:56 am

While we are on Refscope, anyone know how to use it while in a menu? E.g, I have a particular knick-knack from a certain mod, how can I use Refscope to find it without dropping that knick-knack? And how about missing meshes - IIRC, Refscope cannot select those "WTF?" markers either.

Yeah, RefScope is not lacking much in FormID Finder. I'm using use Kuertee's Actor Details and FormID Finder. I forgot about the container thing though. I'll add RefScope in when I get around to merging. I just haven't had a need for the more advanced features of either it or FormID Finder since I started my rebuild.

Happy gaming!
--Tomlong75210

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:52 am

While we are on Refscope, anyone know how to use it while in a menu? E.g, I have a particular knick-knack from a certain mod, how can I use Refscope to find it without dropping that knick-knack? And how about missing meshes - IIRC, Refscope cannot select those "WTF?" markers either.

like you mean in your inventory ? i never have to drop anything on the ground to check what its from. hit x and space on it in your inventory a vendors inventory or a container. it dont matter

another nice feature other then the continer is i think if you also have pluggy you can print the information right to a note pad then i dont have to write anything down or memorize it when i log out i check the file and every report is in the note pad ready for me to research the problem

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:57 pm

All three mod support checking inventory, and add ConScribe into the mix to log everything for easy viewing.

Happy gaming!
--Tomlong75210

P.S. I for got to add that all of these mods require OBSE!!!

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:48 am

refscope logs stuff too for you if you have pluggy installed.