Well, looking at how he moves, or behaves, that's what I've read somewhere, maybe it was here, or maybe I saw it in some BRINK video.

If a Heavy does some Light moves, then we might have a problem.

If a Light does'nt do his Light stuff, and wont move at Light speed (lol), then we might have a problem.

If a guy is constantly behind someone, like, really close (backstab if it's in), then we might have a problem.

If a guy is not going to the front lines with everyone else, while acting suspiciously, then we might have a problem.

Houston, I think we have a problem, over.

Of course, there's always the issue of a new player not even knowing what SMART is...

Houston, I think we have a problem, over.

LET THEM BURN IN RIGHTEOUS FIRE, no but I don't know.. Maybe.. Shoot them and hope for the best? I don't really think anyone playing online wont know what SMART is, since it's one of the key features in BRINK, and you'd learn how to use it pretty fast in Single player?

How will this friendly fire thing work out? :l

Or ask the friendly neighborhood Operative on your team.


The only difference between single player and multiplayer are bots, a tutorial would probably be better to avoid a lot of potential Derp moments.

Do you think using melee on a teammate would result in a down? And double tap result in a kill?

IF SO, Medics can check for operatives :> (tap once, if they still look like your ally, revive, or tap again)

Perhaps one will get a ''Do you want to go through the tutorial first?'' window the first time playing the game, no matter online or offline.

People can get right back up after a single melee, no revival needed.

Really? I thought it resulted in a down, and needing a Medic to get back up, but thanks for that

there are plenty of ways around it... if you automatically get kicked for killing too many people, you just injure people, and they are disadvantaged; and if you get injured you throw yourself infront of a single teamate until he has killed you enough where he gets kicked and he loses xp. someone can purposely act like a spy to get his teamates to shoot him, to get them to lose xp for ff.

I havent seen anyone talk about yet but i think you lose xp if you friendly fire a teammate. It might be just from an earlier build.

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Yea but wont acting like a Spy require the greifer to shoot teamates leading to thier own losing of exp? Not to mention that losing exp per bullet would have most teammates stop shooting.

I dunno like I said, I haven't played with many greifers. Only Teamkillers.

i'm pretty sure i read that shooting while disguised will make you lose your disguise, so thats the last thing you would do while mimicking a spy. you're also assuming that exp will be important enough where a griefer would give a damn... maybe a griever will have an account with zero xp just for grieving...

i just hope they do it right

You seem to be forgetting an extremely important fact: While the enemy spies are running amok through your lines, YOUR spies should be doing the exact same to their team.

OR

Get someone in your team to run a heavy operative. Great survivability, ability to check for enemy operatives, AND he can give everybody radar all the time since he'll usually, scratch that, should be next to downed opponents at the front.

but if you got reflective damage when you shoot a TEAMMATE then couldn't u *if you really wanted to* shoot all ur teammates to make sure there are no spies?

In a long time of playing RtCW, ET and QW I can honestly say that I've encountered very few griefers, and with a simple complaint system they were generally kicked pretty fast. The trick is to just find the servers where the good teamplayers gravitate to (and with FF being defaulted to off, chances are the people who know how to control fire with friendies present will be on FF enabled servers and the ones who don't on FF disabled). Being prepared to wait 10 minutes or so for a spot to open rather than pressing join now and ending up with a whole team of tards is well worth it. I can count on two hands the number of times I was kicked for TK'ing, and given that I was a medic who nearly always TK/revived, if your an asset to your team and play on servers with regulars who know how to teamplay you wont be kicked, and understood that getting killed with a cooked grenade thats then TK's a few teammates happens to everyone. In less teamplay / stat orientated games it's a MUCH bigger problem, especially ones with power up's, vehicles (BF series tank / helicopter tking being dreadful for example) etc.

As for spies, on CQB orientated maps, getting behind enemy lines is the most challenging thing, as anyone with half a brain is gonna be shooting the person they see running in the wrong direction trying to get behind your lines. Coupled with in 8v8 the chances of running into your doppleganger / enemy operatives respawning I'm betting it's not going to be easy. Seeing someone not firing at the enemy is a pretty big red alert sign alone. Throw in the fact that an operative who gets a few kills but doesn't take down all the medics is useless in objective mode, having to time strikes to coincide with when your team attacks a defensive position etc I bet it's going to a difficult class to play well. I always considered spy checking to be a rather cheap way to root them out, given that being observant you can usually spot them anyway.

W:ET did spies pretty well, difficult but rewarding, and I loved the fact that medics (a main spy checker class as they can heal the dmg) saw the spies health and dmg to ff as an ally, so if they didnt react suspiciously (which is pretty hard to do well, instinct and all) to being spy checked chances are a fat medic pack was the spies reward and a knife in the back the medics. Sadly from what I've read this is gone (gaining health from enemy medics) in Brink.

Have to agree with pretty much all you said.

The videos linked from the front page showed a small XP loss for shooting a team mate...

http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/03/09/brink-mega-roundup/
In case the front page gets changed haha.

It's the top video, around 2:50.

I feel like a good solution should be if an operative shot a disguise operative from the other team It should reveal him.

Just spotting is more than enough. No need to reveal him, when he's getting shot, not even by an Operative. Believe me, disguises are easy to use but hard to master. I W:ET I could discover 98% of the disguised enemies just by looking at their general behaviour.

Also, doesn't shooting in disguise give away your disguise anyway..........

I hope that if someone betrays his/her teammates two or three times the option to kick that person out of the game comes up.

Yes, but I was talking about getting shot while you're the one who's disguised.


In other SD games there was a complaint system. You could forgive someone. Whenever someone received too many complaints he would get autokicked.

I wonder how long you can live and observe all that in the chaos of battle before the operative backstabs you first, lol!

The disguise only get removed when the operative actually shoots someone or something like that? Didn't someone say you have to be careful about shooting when in disguise?

Operative-stuff makes me confused, lol!

Same thing in TF2, Blending in without giving yourself away requires a lot of practice.



Yes



Then don't play operative, also alas there are no backstabs.