Got all three, like them all in equal amounts. If I want role-playing, I play the classics. If I want some action, I go for the third.

I never played 1 and 2, played only the 3rd so far. I had heard about the first 2 of the series, but I never enjoyed either turn based RPG or isometric perspective. I know there were some complaints from the old school fans when Bethesda took the franchise, but I must say that FO3 really impressed me, despite some glitches :tops:

I've played all three, own all three, and currently ahve FO1 and FO3 installed. I also have FO1 installed on my laptop, and I've been seen playing it at lunch time at work.

I like all three, dislike portions of all three.

OMG, I LOVED that game!!! :tops:

There's rumored to be a Wasteland 2 on the way by InXile. Huzzah.

Well, I own all three. Fallout 3 sits happily beside my copies of 1, 2, and Tactics. BOS is sitting dejected in the attic, for perfectly good reasons...

Frankly, the humor in that game ruined it for me. You can't escape it...it's in the dialogue, in the special encounters, and it's full of immersion breaking out of character references.
FO1 was a far superior game as far as I'm concerned.

I've played bot 1, 2, and Fallout Tactics.
Quite a bit of fun and still playable on a modern rig.

I can't believe I share the same opinion as Kjarista, that's something you don't see everyday. Fallout 2 was more or less a good game, but I think it really could have done without the forced OOC aspects.

I played and liked all three. Fallout 1 has the best story and atmosphere, 2 has the best role playing and scale, and 3 has the best exploration.

Well it's clear that a few people here don't appreciate fourth wall humor as much as I do

The humour in FO2 was a bit OTT, but it didn't bother me so much that I thought the game was poorer for it.

Never played 1 and 2. I was so pysched for FO3 that I checked all of my Christmas presents a month early. It was also the day that I found out about a 22" HD Flatscreen. Good times

What I don't appreciate are out of character and out of game references when I'm trying to become one with the game environment.

It just never bothered me, I laughed, I got on with the game Maybe some people are very particular about their immersion? I think this adds a sense of irony to Fallout humor, because the experiences were quite immersive, and I think the devs made this one of their main focuses. Yet they were still confident enough to break that boundary on occasion. And I don't think enough people minded for it to pose a problem.

If you think that, maybe you weren't involved in the forums back then. There was a substantial backlash over it.

But back then, there were a lot more of us old school tabletop immersive roleplayers around.

That's about how I felt, though I've been learning that my own definition of immersion is quite a bit different than that of many others.

It was really something I never even thought that much about until a decade later when I started coming around here and hearing talk about it.

For myself, the humour was maybe a bit more prevalent, but at the same time there was a lot more depravity in the second game than the first one. I wonder if it was really kind of an attempt to balance it out a bit more. Fallout 2 is the only game where I've had a character sell her "services" for 100 caps or a couple free batteries, after all (or rather... disturbing ramifications of losing an arm-wrestling match with a Supermutant.) Fallout 2 often seemed to me to paint a picture of a more morally bankrupt environment than the first game - regardless of whether they succeeded at it or not, I think the more outlandish humour was an attempt to lighten the mood a bit. Comedic relief and all that.

I bought Fallout 3 first, but then I wanted more, so I bought the 1/2/tactics pack. I love them all, I especially love that the originals are far more violent than Fallout 3, even though they're 2D. I haven't beaten 1 or 2 yet, because I enjoy just roaming around the world. It's especially fun since power armor makes you invincible.

I found the "depravity" to be rather outlandish, and hardly subtle as well. FO2 struck me the same way MASH (the tv show) struck me. Everything was outlandish, everything was not serious, in a way that diffused the bleak reality of the situation. I'd rather have them show me indirectly, as FO3 does, then hammer at me with foolishness.

*major eye rollage*

I'm not going to go into it. But it really doesn't. If it does for you, then huzzah, I'm happy for you. But it really doesn't. Without saying anything else on the matter >_<


The Nova situation was the epitome of foolishness. I don't know how you can say that o_O

I agree, FO2's humor was funny and not at all immersion-breaking. I loved all the references and jokes the characters made.

I've played FO1, FO2, Tactics, and FO3. My favorite is FO2.

I see what you're getting at, and I agree to an extent.

Still, I felt that Fallout 2 was the most depraved and desolate of the series, with the most emphasis on morally ambiguous decisions and the like. In Fallout 3, it's always very clear-cut which response to any situation is going to be "good" or "evil" - there were few moments in that game where I had to pause and really consider what the "best" outcome would be. (Oasis, I thought, was a really good example of a quest that made you stop and think - I'd have liked to have seen more of that in F3.) While I felt out of all the games, Fallout 2 was best at coming up with those morally ambiguous situations.

The whole "depraved and ethically void society" thing was kind of over the top in Fallout 2 in comparison to the other games, but I did find it a bit lacking in Fallout 3, at the same time. There's all of one prosttute in Fallout 3, and what - 2 addicts who came off more as the druggie anolog of a functional alcoholic than the junkies you see littering the environment in Fallout 2. What I liked about F2 over the others was the picture it painted of people just struggling to survive - where morality is a luxury to be indulged in when you're not just struggling to survive for another day.

Raiders weren't some crazed humans that function as nothing more than another monster to kill - they were groups lacking the skills and motivation to try and make a go of cultivating the land; preying on nearby settlements and caravans as their only source of food and supplies. Gangs were groups of like-minded individuals banding together for protection. Towns were isolationist, heavily-fortified, and distrustful of strangers. Walking around a town with your gun drawn was a good way to get killed.

I agree with Bethesda going for something closer in tone to Fallout 1 with their game, but at the same time I think there were some lessons to be learning in Fallout 2, as well. I kind of miss in Fallout 3 the children running around stealing from you because they know there's nothing you can do about it (unless you really want the child-killer perk - and for the record, I'm not one of those petitioning for this to get added back into the game, and I actually agree that it's likely not something that should be an option - even as the result of an accidental shot.) I miss trying to figure out which towns and factions my character is going to support - and it being less a matter of choosing between the "good guys" and "bad guys" but deciding for myself who would be the lesser of two evils.

And hey, I love a lot of what Fallout 3 brought to the table, as well. All 3 (frak, even Fallout: Tactics, I think) have their good points and bad points. For a Fallout 4, what I'd really like to see is a game that draws from all of the games their best aspects.

The original Fallout wasn't an over the top humor game, so the sequel shouldn't have been designed that way. You may have found the humor in Fallout 2 funny, but I didn't. It wasn't dry or dark like the small amount of humor in the original game, it was campy at best and fruity at worst. I dislike Fallout 2's OOC humor for the same reason I hate comedians really, Black Isle (like comedians) tried too hard to be funny and it shows. I don't call that humor, I call that embarrassing yourself. House M.D, the subtle dark humor in FO 1 and 3, now that's my kind of humor.

I think that says more about you than it does about FO2's humor It wasn't your thing. I don't think it was anything the devs did wrong. I also didn't notice any humor in FO3 beyond your robot in megaton.

There's subtle dark humour in House or Fallout 3 ? Hm, interesting.