How much does House help the smaller communities?

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:38 pm

Hey guys so i'm really curious about how much house would support the smaller communities around vegas (i haven't done enough playthroughs with him to get it fully). So I can see how a lot of the things he did before the came could be justified, but my real focus is what he does once he's in power. I can gather that he will establish a strong federal government (himself) with a powerful army (securitrons), I know he will develop a lot of tech, but will it just be for big picture space ships or will he also put money towards things like farming and medicine that he will share with the people. I know he talks about how he won't abuse his power because he doesn't care about what people do in their free time, but does that mean he will just totally ignore the people or will he do things like help keep their community safe, rebuild buildings for businesses and factories, build hospitals and clinics. So could someone just help me better understand his philosophy and his dream for the city of Vegas itself. Thanks!
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:35 pm

In a way he does ignore some, but he does establish a strong nation. I dont know the details as i havent done a playtrough with him in a... million years or so.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:13 am

He doesn't, except for Goodsprings. He sends a securitron to Goodsprings to protect it.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:59 pm

He's all happy sitting in the Strip surrounded by his securitrons.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:05 pm

He "helps" them by doing nothing. House destroys the Kings or ignores them. He ignores almost EVERYONE. The only one that he really helps is Victor but really, I think Victor is just a "scout" of sorts as Goodsprings is far west where the NCR might appear in. Unlike Caesar, the NCR is still kicking since the bulk of the Securitron army didn't kill them all.

Oh yeah, he does troll Primm by slapping on really bad taxes in exchange for "protection" (Mafia alert) if you make the NCR take over Primm.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:47 pm

He doesn't, except for Goodsprings. He sends a securitron to Goodsprings to protect it.
This. I believe he taxes Primm heavily and ignores the rest. Or kills them in the case of the Kings.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 10:11 pm

This. I believe he taxes Primm heavily and ignores the rest. Or kills them in the case of the Kings.
He only does either of those things if you complete them in the NCR-friendly way.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:46 am

He helped 3, they became the Three Families. Besides that he helps himself help Vegas
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:55 pm

Hey guys so i'm really curious about how much house would support the smaller communities around vegas (i haven't done enough playthroughs with him to get it fully). So I can see how a lot of the things he did before the came could be justified, but my real focus is what he does once he's in power. I can gather that he will establish a strong federal government (himself) with a powerful army (securitrons), I know he will develop a lot of tech, but will it just be for big picture space ships or will he also put money towards things like farming and medicine that he will share with the people. I know he talks about how he won't abuse his power because he doesn't care about what people do in their free time, but does that mean he will just totally ignore the people or will he do things like help keep their community safe, rebuild buildings for businesses and factories, build hospitals and clinics. So could someone just help me better understand his philosophy and his dream for the city of Vegas itself. Thanks!

Well, I wouldn't say a 'strong' federal government, mostly because House's 'rule' of the Mojave is notably absent of ruling or governance of any kind. Which is both good and bad, it's good in the sense that there is minimal governmnental intrusion on their everyday lives(because there isn't any), but bad in the sense he really just kind of leaves everyone to their own devices. He dosen't really provide a whole lot of security or any other basic services outside of The Strip, and if you're barely making ends meet while working your hands to the bone day in, day out, well tough [censored], this is laissez-faire capitalism, trickle-down economics, and social darwinism at its purest form. House is essentially like a Republican dream come true. Sure, there's practically no taxes (lest you have the NCR take over Primm) but then again, you get what you pay for. Zero. Zip. Nada. It's great if you can say 'I got mine!' but for everyone else, not so much.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:20 pm

Well, I wouldn't say a 'strong' federal government, mostly because House's 'rule' of the Mojave is notably absent of ruling or governance of any kind. Which is both good and bad, it's good in the sense that there is minimal governmnental intrusion on their everyday lives(because there isn't any), but bad in the sense he really just kind of leaves everyone to their own devices. He dosen't really provide a whole lot of security or any other basic services outside of The Strip, and if you're barely making ends meet while working your hands to the bone day in, day out, well tough [censored], this is laissez-faire capitalism, trickle-down economics, and social darwinism at its purest form. House is essentially like a Republican dream come true. Sure, there's practically no taxes (lest you have the NCR take over Primm) but then again, you get what you pay for. Zero. Zip. Nada. It's great if you can say 'I got mine!' but for everyone else, not so much.
Not entirely true. With his Securitron army, it'd be a bit cramped to have them all stationed in Vegas, it's likely he'd have key locations to his regime with stationary guards, then have roving securitron patrols to ensure there is nothing going on on the roads.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:43 am

But where does it say that? If you could find a source for that feel free to correct me, but I can't find one myself. The House ending in general kind of gives off the impression that he more or less leaves most of the outlying communities alone for better and for worse, except under certain circumstances.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:38 am

Well, I wouldn't say a 'strong' federal government, mostly because House's 'rule' of the Mojave is notably absent of ruling or governance of any kind. Which is both good and bad, it's good in the sense that there is minimal governmnental intrusion on their everyday lives(because there isn't any), but bad in the sense he really just kind of leaves everyone to their own devices. He dosen't really provide a whole lot of security or any other basic services outside of The Strip, and if you're barely making ends meet while working your hands to the bone day in, day out, well tough [censored], this is laissez-faire capitalism, trickle-down economics, and social darwinism at its purest form. House is essentially like a Republican dream come true. Sure, there's practically no taxes (lest you have the NCR take over Primm) but then again, you get what you pay for. Zero. Zip. Nada. It's great if you can say 'I got mine!' but for everyone else, not so much.

I wouldn't say a republican dream, since most republicans i know wouldn't like the power he holds (whether he uses it or not) and they'd dislike the fact that he taxes the wealthiest people (three families)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 pm

All this generalizing is maddening 8).

Anyways, to answer your question... he doesn't. I am pretty sure he utilizes a different approach to the legion... the strong survive (aka, passing the caps for ideas, goods, and technology).

And wait.. he applies taxes to the people... Then House isn't a true capitalistic society is he? I am 99.9% taxes messes with the entire balance

Edit. I did my research.. it is still that, just not a free market
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:20 pm

He only does either of those things if you complete them in the NCR-friendly way.
Actually, for the Kings, they only survive if you incite them against the NCR. They die otherwise in a House ending.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:42 pm

Actually, for the Kings, they only survive if you incite them against the NCR. They die otherwise in a House ending.
Perhaps this happens because House is from the school of thought 'there are no neutral, he who stands on the fence has made his choice' train of thought. Not justifying it, just putting forth a suggestion as to why leaving that quest unresolved has this happen.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:15 pm

House helps pretty much everyone but for the Boomers. House helps simply by being there. He built the Strip which is the hub of all the economic activity in the Mojave. If he wasn't around the Mojave would be a very different place. The NCR would have taken over most of the Mojave if not for him.

He does things so well, people can't tell if he has done anything at all :shifty:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:52 pm

Perhaps this happens because House is from the school of thought 'there are no neutral, he who stands on the fence has made his choice' train of thought. Not justifying it, just putting forth a suggestion as to why leaving that quest unresolved has this happen.

I don't think House see things that way, if you kill one of the boomer leaders and make their quests unable to be completed making them neutral, in the NCR and legion endings they attack the boomers, in the indie ending scavengers suffer from widespread amnesia and think they can get into Nellis and promptly get artillery shells to the face and find themselves occupying 50 different locations at once. House just leaves them alone.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:48 pm

Perhaps this happens because House is from the school of thought 'there are no neutral, he who stands on the fence has made his choice' train of thought. Not justifying it, just putting forth a suggestion as to why leaving that quest unresolved has this happen.
Not the impression I had. My thoughts were always that if tensions between the Kings and NCR were neither eased or tightened, then House simply opts to expand his operations into Freeside without any real opinion about the Kings. But the Kings being what they are (all about freedom and stuff like that) refuse to abide by his rules and fight, leading to their deaths.

Anyway, as for the topic at hand, House doesn't really take a direct hand in helping the Mojave. His interests end where Vegas begins, and his only concern with the surrounding lands is to ensure that they're safe and secure for travelers. The various settlements are by and large of no concern to him, as long as they don't get in his way. You can get on his case for not doing more to help out, but remember, a larger power "helping" out "little guys" always means that the little guys have to pay potentially exorbitant taxes while following rules and regulations that they don't like.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:51 am

Hey, i don't know if i made this clear in my post but i really mean outer vegas when i say smaller communities. So is he going to just ignore or rebuild the areas around the strip and hopefully make them as profitable as the strip.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 7:38 pm

house is a smart man, he would, probably, get to helping people eventually when it helps further his goals (which will happen eventually, he cant have his robots do everything), but for the most part he helps by not getting in the way
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:09 pm

Hey, i don't know if i made this clear in my post but i really mean outer vegas when i say smaller communities. So is he going to just ignore or rebuild the areas around the strip and hopefully make them as profitable as the strip.
He sends a few Securitrons as town guards to Primm and Goodspring but these "guards" aren't welcome nor are they actually there as guards, but rather as spies.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:02 am

house is a smart man, he would, probably, get to helping people eventually when it helps further his goals (which will happen eventually, he cant have his robots do everything), but for the most part he helps by not getting in the way

Well his main goal is progress and rebuilding the new world, and i doubt that means just watching over the strip because he does say he wants to rebuild the high tech development centers but that requires people to physically build the centers and people to produce the raw materials in mines and factories, and unless he wants to get everything from the NCR, which he may get some but i doubt he will get everything because he wants to get money from the NCR not give money to them, but he'll hopefully start to rebuild outer vegas and put factories and such to produce what he needs. I know at one point the ending slide says he expands his interests into freeside, this could mean he is going to rebuild outer vegas like he did the strip. But the main question is what is he going to do with the locals, will he push them out or allow them to stay and work for him?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:15 am

Well his main goal is progress and rebuilding the new world, and i doubt that means just watching over the strip because he does say he wants to rebuild the high tech development centers but that requires people to physically build the centers and people to produce the raw materials in mines and factories, and unless he wants to get everything from the NCR, which he may get some but i doubt he will get everything because he wants to get money from the NCR not give money to them, but he'll hopefully start to rebuild outer vegas and put factories and such to produce what he needs. I know at one point the ending slide says he expands his interests into freeside, this could mean he is going to rebuild outer vegas like he did the strip. But the main question is what is he going to do with the locals, will he push them out or allow them to stay and work for him?

If you sic' the kings on the NCR squatters, he leaves them alone and lets them do their thing.

There isn't any evidence of him pushing around any settlements, except Primm, and he only taxes them if you are too lazy to get them a sheriff.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:19 am

If you sic' the kings on the NCR squatters, he leaves them alone and lets them do their thing.

There isn't any evidence of him pushing around any settlements, except Primm, and he only taxes them if you are too lazy to get them a sheriff.

Yeah, but I always thought the Goodsprings ending sounded really ominious, the whole "protection" just sounded ominous. Plus there was the whole reference to Mussilini with making the monorail run on time. Makes me think Obsidian was hinting at something. . .
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:25 am

Yeah, but I always thought the Goodsprings ending sounded really ominious, the whole "protection" just sounded ominous. Plus there was the whole reference to Mussilini with making the monorail run on time. Makes me think Obsidian was hinting at something. . .

Well Goodsprings is in need of protection, geckos, raiders, escaped prisoners etc. Also dictators (well, ones that i'm aware of my knowledge of dictators affects on train timetables is pretty limited) such as Mussolini and Hitler didn't really do anything about trains (Mussolini made one train run on time, that was before he was in power, Hitler was pretty bad for train timetables because he liked to travel by private train, but anyway i'm off subject). Besides what's so bad about making trains run on time, whats next will House be branded a villain for eliminating other small nuisances such as that little bit of rain and it being slightly too hot?
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