I assume 360. 360 is for people who might spend a couple of hours a day gaming and does not have the same abilities as a computer. Same goes for PS3 and any console for that matter next gen or not.

So him buying a new xbox wich he allready has solves what? Does not solve the problem of him wanting a better machine. He allready has a 360 and wants a good computrer. The machine I prettty much showed him moniters itself telling him whats wrong with it. if it starts to overheat (all computers do this) then it adjusts the fan speeds for him. its also below his limit and its more power than what he will be using and it will last longer than 3 years. Most parts have a 3-5 year warranty and one will has a lifetime warranty. Also the parts are OC certified meaning they will stand up way longer under their normal setting since he probably will not OC them. I also left room for expansion if he ever needs it. But I built him an enthusiast machine. If you want to play anygame at max settings for the next few years thats pretty much what you need. ATI cards from what I know have alot of micro stuttering and most games are made using nividia cards as a base (as in the compy that made the game typicaly use nividia cards) ATI cards tend to have a hard time runnig things like physicsx. Its up to him im biased to intel and nividia parts. (I owned a AMD computer first computer I put together. ATI almost fried another PC.) So Im kind of biased. I will say AMD/ATI built computers are cheaper and thats ok for some people but some may want intel/nividia computers as thats what they know or trust. I put the pc together with parts i know will last can the motherboard can inform if if somthing is wrong (good for a person who does not know if somthing might be going wrong with his system or what to look for)

DO NOT BUY FROM GOODWILL EVER! They dont know what they have how it works if it even works no warranties no nothing. You will be lucky oh so very lucky if the parts last 1 year or 2. Kind of why those parts are there in the first place they are past their prime or the previous person did somthing to it that made him want to give it to good will.

I had a 1t 7200 RPM 6mb cahce HD in my other computer performed the same as above... and I had all my games and music and movies and I only took up 300gig 500 is more than enough because I had like 20-30 games installed

Holy crap! Goodwill sells computers now?

THere was a pevious poster on the last page I belive that said buy some parts from goodwill. I used to sell my old printers to good will. I run out of ink sell a printer to good will buy a new one oh look 2 full cartridges and a free printer. They dont check if it works or anything.

kermit.the.frog was his name.

You serious? 2k+ is waaaaay overpaying for what he wants, he shouldn't have to spend more than 1k.


Around $800-1000 will build a beast PC for what he is expecting.
I built my PC 2 years ago for $1000 and the only thing I upgraded was my graphic card because my old one fried and it still runs pretty much every new game in full graphics without problem.

Id spend 5 grand easy if you want what you want. I am looking to run it at normal - dont need the shiny a$$ water - so prob 2-3k

Pretty sure he meant to only buy mice, keyboards, cases, and other stuff that are not expensive or have sensitive parts. That kind of stuff can be knocked around and still work fine.

My computer cost me in English money ￡1200 using an online convertion website that in American dollars is about $1979, however depending on prices for individual parts in America could come in alot less and I do also have some things you won't need. I have however not needed to buy a monitor as my PC is connected to my 32" Samsung TV in my bedroom

My speck is:

- Windows 7
- Intel i5 2500k Quad Core Processor
- 4GB Samsung Dual DDR3 Ram
- Asus P6P67 PRO Motherboard
- Nvidia 1.25GB GTX 570 Graphics Card (this is the most expensive and most important thing you will be spending your money on so make sure you pick the right one, having said that you won't need one as powerful as mine)
- WD Caviar Black 1 TB Hard Drive
- WD Caviar Green 1 TB Hard Drive (I have 2 hard drives you will most likely only need 1)
- Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Cooler
- 24x Dual Layer DVD Writer
- 12x Blu Ray DVD Writer (you most likely won't need 2 disc drives so that will save you money)
- Corsair 650w TX Series - power supply (depending mostly on how power hungry your graphics card is you might onlt need a 450 w for example)

note.... if you build it yourself make sure you get a case large enough to hold your graphics card, my GTX 570 is quite large and won't fit in the smallest cases around)
- My case is a PCS MaelstromT900

Also bearing in mind that Skyrim will be able to run on xbox 360 and PS3 as well which shows that it won't need the most powerful hardware out there, if you want your system to last into the future however then you will need to consider just how powerful a system you want

For what you need about $1000 should cover it

Hope this helps

Pretty much the build im getting... Except a part or two.

You can get cheaper by a $100 or so buy downgrading the mobo and even more if you downgrade other parts like the blueray player video card etc.

PNY 560 TI overclock $259.99
http://www.newegg.co...3-380-_-Product

Asus P67 sabertooth mobo $219.99
http://www.newegg.co...67%20Sabertooth

Corsair 750 Watt PSU. $109.99
http://www.newegg.co...9-021-_-Product

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $44.99
http://www.newegg.co...6-769-_-Product

I7 2600k $314.99
http://www.newegg.co...5-070-_-Product

windows 7 pro $139.99
http://www.newegg.co...6-992-_-Product

8 gig 1600 corsair dominater ram $94.99
http://www.newegg.co...3-144-_-Product

Coolermaster v6 gt.heat sink $59.99
http://www.newegg.co...3-089-_-Product

SAMSUNG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Blu-ray Drive Model SH-B123L LightScribe Support - OEM $67.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827151222

Currently at $1312.91


Coolermaster 922 $99.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119197

Corsair graphite 600 (im getting this case. $159.99
http://www.newegg.co...9-003-_-Product

NZXT Phantom (comes in many colors also a close second im flip floping between this and the corsair.) $139.99
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811146067

This is a full tower. COOLER MASTER HAF 932 $154.48
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811119160

5... Really?



Really?

Im just buying a $700 IBUYPOWER desktop from tiger direct and it comes with a Nvidia Geforce 430GT

Id say stay away from built computers bought off the internet. I bought one caused $300 in damages and their waranty did not cover the damages even though they wired it wrong.

he be trollin, if you spend 5k on a pc it better be dipped in gold.

That's a bit much imo. The sweet spot for price/performance ratio would be the 2500k and GTX 560 pair. Here's my future build for Skyrim (all prices from Newegg):

Intel i5-2500k.....$ 300

Asus Sabertooth P67 mobo.....$130

MSI 560 GTX Twin Frozr GPU.....$250

G.Skill Ripjaws X 8 GB Ram.....$90

Corsair 750 W Pro Series modular PSU.... $150

Cool Master Storm Scout case.....$80

Noctua NH-U9B cooler.....$60

Patroit inferno 60 Gb SSD..... $150


TOTAL: $1210

I even went a bit overkill with this build, and one could save a couple hundred by cutting the pro modular power supply, not getting an SSD, and getting slightly cheaper cooler and slower clocked RAM. If you get something in the $700 - 1000 range you're set for Skyrim.

Is this a computer you are considering buying? Why do you need 16GB RAM?

It almost certainly won't help performance for Skyrim, but it would be useful if you are working with 64-bit video editing apps, extremely large files in Photoshop, etc.




What other kind of built computers are there?

Are you suggesting that by buying from, say Best Buy instead of HP or Newegg that there will be less chance the computer will need repairs?

The pricing for retail stores usually doesn't compare to internet sales deals.

If you must get a pre-assembled machine then I suggest one of these:

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/compspecialdeals.asp

Sorry meant pre built. Also cookie cuter PC's. Cookie cuter PC's make for bad gamning machines. They are not meant for gaming. Ibuypower is a internet based company. If you have problems you need to call them get a RMA mail it to them they reserve the right to use referbished parts in the repairs and then you wait for it to be mailed back. 30 day money back warranty after that its pretty much yours if you want your money back after 30 days you have to pay a 15% restock fee and you have to pay to mail it. I went through this. I spent almost a week trying to get in contact with cyberpower. I ended upthreatining them with a lawsuit if they didn't call me in 5 minutes. im still waiting for my money back. and im out $300 in damages.

Buy the parts you want ither build it yourself or take it to a profeshional to put them together for you. Or have a mom and pop kind of store build one for you and you can take it there and have it repaired for free for a year or so.

Yes if you already have the monitor you can build a top of line comp for a little under 1000 USD if you order all the parts and put it together yourself....probably would stick to quad core processor to make it a bit cheaper, also if your buying windows 7 to stick on it thatll be another 100-200 bucks.

You can get even cheaper is you reuse your old drives. (if they are SATA III)
DVD/RW drive, moniter mouse, keyboard, speakers old hardrive (use as a secondary) etc. You can easily save up to $100+ if you reuse some things from the old machine. It may not look pretty but it will work.

Thats why you invest in a lifetime warranty
Besides my friend has an IBUYPOWER desktop and he loves it.
The warranty was only $30 extra, they said if it messes up in any way they'll send me a new one then ill have to pay $30 again to renew my warranty but its a good deal.
My friend has had his for 2 years now so I'm not worried.

Ibuypower/cyberpowerpc etc dont have lifetime... they have a 3 year 30 day money back gurantee thats it .

Edit Sorry forgot the only life time they have is "Life time tech support"

Edit also its a crap shoot with these companies. you may not have anyproblems with the thing. Or you have problems with the machine giving lots of headache over. as to... Walk into a store... My comouter does not work like it should "ok lets take a look... oh its this part here let me replace that"

They do if you know people :whistling:

Oh by the way NEVER GET AN HP unless you want to have to buy a new one again and again and again because they build them to screw up after the warranty goes out.

Thats a differnt story... most people dont know people

I bought from Cyberpowerpc and my PC is still running strong over 2 years after. There was a mishap with the power supply fan area being slightly bent so it wouldn't spin, but the support worked with me and sent me a new one within a week to replace it.

Well anyway I get what your saying about building your own PC and a custom PC will probably be better than a pre built usually but I just want to have the computer sent to me effort free because I can just upgrade it with new stuff anyway.

They caused me $300 in damages and pretty much gave me the finger and hangup on me on one occasion... I only got a tech for about maybe 30 seconds before he would put me back on hold. Finialy I pretty much said get me someone or im suing you. I think alot has changed with their company in the last 2 years.

Edit I tried for days to get a tech for more than a minute. I lost a Ipod classic 4 Flash drives etc because they pluged the front usb ports into the IEEE conection.