How powerful is the Dovahkiin? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:34 am

I was jusy doing the daedric quest for Clavicus Vile quest and at the end there is a piece of dialogue where he mentions, that without Barbas, he is at half his strength and that at the moment the Dovahkiin is as strong as he is. Going by this the Dovohkiin essentially has the strength of a minor god and could well be on his way to godhood.

I may just be talking out of my [censored] so feel free to correct me.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:36 am

Dragonborn is either a Shezzarine (incarnation of Shor) or a dragon in a human container.

(S)He is already the strength of a minor deity.

Of course assuming that Vile wasn't lying.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:31 am

Dragonborn is either a Shezzarine (incarnation of Shor) or a dragon in a human container.

Well, the latter is pretty much the description of Dragonborn. He's certainly on the road to being a Shezzarine also.

Though it could be that Clavicus was just exaggerating though.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:27 pm

Powerful enough to beat Alduin.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:25 am

Somewhere between really powerful and really, really, really powerful.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:23 am

Somewhere between really powerful and really, really, really powerful.

And Dawnguard isnt even out yet. I wonder how powerful he'll be on the Dark Side of that. Considering it allows him to consume mortal souls in addition to Dragon Souls... And there will probably be unique surprises in the Soul Cairn.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:26 pm

And Dawnguard isnt even out yet. I wonder how powerful he'll be on the Dark Side of that. Considering it allows him to consume mortal souls in addition to Dragon Souls... And there will probably be unique surprises in the Soul Cairn.

Dovahkiin mantles Alduin, calling it right here.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:19 pm

Except that he's also a vampire that exists outside of the Mundus.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:02 pm

Except that he's also a vampire that exists outside of the Mundus.

Only if. Sheo for all intents and purposes could of been a vampire as well, and...well ya know. Denominations like that are rendered moot either way once you start climbing the metaphysical latter.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:51 am

And in order to walk like Alduin you would have to do a lot more than eat souls. If he enslaves humanity... then he's walking like a boss.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:44 am

And in order to walk like Alduin you would have to do a lot more than eat souls. If he enslaves humanity... then he's walking like a boss.

Alduin his primary purpose is not to enslave people it's to eat them and the Kalpa with it. Would be awesome of if the Dovahkiin mantles Alduin and becomes the new Alduin... Way cooler then mantling Talos

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:55 am

That would defeat the whole point of the main quest which is why I dislike that theory.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:57 am

Arngeir would laugh in your face and call you weak though but i guess he/she is somewhat strong.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:16 pm

That would defeat the whole point of the main quest which is why I dislike that theory.

In Oblivion you stopped one Daedric prince from walking around on Tamriel just to later turn into another Daedric prince that walks around on Tamriel.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:55 pm

In Oblivion you stopped one Daedric prince from walking around on Tamriel just to later turn into another Daedric prince that walks around on Tamriel.

Thankfully for us, that one isn't hellbent on smashing everything in sight. Hes also quite theraqeutic, in a demented sorta way.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:09 am

He straight up delightful.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:07 am

I have heard rumors that Thuum Masters can shout cities to pieces, so I guess he is pretty badass. Not to mention that he stopped the end of an entire kalpa, and I'm sure that stopping a kalpa isn't something you do just like that. Wasn't it the Leaper Demon who maybe is Mehrunes Dagon who failed to do this multiple times. And I'm sure the Gods aren't that fond of end of kalpas either, with them dying and all, but I havent seen any of them doing nothing about it. (Except maybe sending a Dragonborn in Alduins direction, but this just proves my point.)
Aaaaaaand who won the civil war (as far as we know), was basically the one who had last Dragonborn on their team.

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:26 pm

Alduin his primary purpose is not to enslave people it's to eat them and the Kalpa with it. Would be awesome of if the Dovahkiin mantles Alduin and becomes the new Alduin... Way cooler then mantling Talos

I like the Dovahkiin mantles/replaces Alduin because it's also a sure-fire way of defeating the Thalmor. Eat Mundas, and you restart Time and prevent the Thalmor from returning to the Dawn Era of non-linear Time.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:51 am

I'd guess that by the end of each expansions' MQ, if not already, Dovahkiin is already pretty much the biggest badass on Tamriel. S/he appears to be the kind of hero that sets their own place in the mythic, whose limits seem to be pretty much just whatever problem is put in front of them.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:28 am

Yeah, Dovohkiin is showing great promise at the moment, and it comes as no surprsise he has the power of a minor deity, absorbing the souls of immortal beings may have something to do with that. Anyone think Dovahkiin will end up absorbing the soul of someone big? i.e. a deadric prince? maybe even an aedra. The souls Dovahkiin can absorb is expanding to human souls witb Dawnguard, so we'll see.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:02 am

I like the Dovahkiin mantles/replaces Alduin because it's also a sure-fire way of defeating the Thalmor. Eat Mundas, and you restart Time and prevent the Thalmor from returning to the Dawn Era of non-linear Time.

Alduin is unnecessary to reload the Mundus for an update, because Talos defragments it. Of course, the Thalmor are trying to uninstall him. If Alduin eats the world, time restarts at the Dawn Era anyways, so Alduin is advancing the Thalmor's goals. Talos needs to remain as to stop both Alduin and the Thalmor.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:48 am

Alduin is unnecessary to reload the Mundus for an update, because Talos defragments it. Of course, the Thalmor are trying to uninstall him. If Alduin eats the world, time restarts at the Dawn Era anyways, so Alduin is advancing the Thalmor's goals. Talos needs to remain as to stop both Alduin and the Thalmor.

Hmm, the way I recall it Alduin doesn't delinearize time. He just winds it back to zero, and then lets it run linearly again until it runs out, and he eats the world and sets everything back to zero again.

Also, saying "time restarts at the Dawn Era" kinda doesn't make sense, since there really isn't a real notion of time as we know it until after the Dawn Era.

» Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:13 am

Alduin is unnecessary to reload the Mundus for an update, because Talos defragments it. Of course, the Thalmor are trying to uninstall him. If Alduin eats the world, time restarts at the Dawn Era anyways, so Alduin is advancing the Thalmor's goals. Talos needs to remain as to stop both Alduin and the Thalmor.

So Talos is three hackers put together into one program?

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» Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:34 pm

Isn't he a shezzarine? Then again, i kinda use that term to describe most of TES's protagonists so I may be misinterpreting his having an Aedric soul, similar to that of Reman and Talos.

Btw, the dragons are Jills are lesser Aedra, right?

» Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:11 pm

Some people think the Dovahkiin is a Shezzarine but I personally think he's something new and unique.