How should the series end?

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:07 am

Gabriel quote.

Yeah I wasn't entirely sure about the Energy Weapons bit, thanks for the correction.

Point is, there could be equivalents and other things for the things I stated there.
But would the game resemble "Fallout" when so much is gone and replaced with new things?
It has all the right to exist, don't get me wrong on that.
And if it had good writing and gameplay then it could very well replace FNV or FO2 on my top 3 Fallout games list.
But still... It would feel... Weird...

Hmm, I'm actually kinda liking the idea of a game set in France.
But I know that they'd make the NPC's talk in English if they ever did it. <_<
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:29 pm

I picture a Fallout game taking place in Europe would be very dark and grim, as indeed you said, they were in a kind of dark age. A few Energy Weapons, as I said above, were developed by germany and austria. And who is to say that no other country/government had prototypes or that they developed it after the Great War aswell. And as I also said above, maybe Poseidon were the ones drilling for oil in Middle East for the European Commonwelth, during the Resource War.

I see hundreds of ways Fallout could fit in an european wasteland, only thing that would lack would be that american 1950's culture and feeling with commie fear and pro-nuclear, although europe had it's 1950's feel aswell, and we also tried to copy some pieces of american lifestyle because back then we thought you were awesome, helping us in two world wars and all (now in the Fallout universe, it was Europe who were greedy for oil in the Middle East, haha!)


Other counties could have had proto-type PA yes but they are just that proto-types. So that would mean what a handful of proto-type armour in all of Europe? What are the odds they survived the great war or even worked? Not good IMO. Energy weapons designed by other nations could it not mean america just ripped off their design and make them energy weapons. Even if they were made in Europe the nations would not be able pay for large amounts of them like America could. Maybe those European companies opened up branchs in America. I just don't see Europe having that many.

Last part is what would be missing. The American 1950s style adn culture. Also the new cultures that have formed since 2077. If a game was made in say England, would it be England of 2100 or England what ever the time line will be when Bethesda is done with North America? Guessing 2350 or so. If they start over overseas It should be around the same time as FO1. I want to learn how the factions formed, their history and what not then maybe I could get into it. If the timeline keeps going but in Europe I would not know about any the factions. How did they get to where they are? I don't want to sit through Fallout England and sit through a 300 year history lession. I won't feel any connection and it will be worce if they are clear knockoffs of North American Factions.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:29 pm

Whose to say other nations didn't have things similar to project safehouse?
(although BoS expeditionary forces to certain nations doesn't seem far out of the range of possibility in the FO Universe)

Wait what? Them going to DC from Cali was an extremely unlikely stretch on canon. How the hell are they going to get to other countries? You do realize that the BoS are only a tiny force of isolationists compared to the other powers in the universe? In the original games the extent of there power was one Main bunker, and a hand full of small one man outposts to keep tabs on the Enclave. That they are descendants from the military personally form Maraposia and that they don't accept outsiders, really at all so they only have what personally descended from them right?

Other counties could have had proto-type PA yes but they are just that proto-types. So that would mean what a handful of proto-type armour in all of Europe?

I thought all the Break troughs by West-Tec in the fields of PA and fusion power where kept for America only. We had no allies during the time up to the great war remember?

Poseidon Energy, drilled for the last source of oil, and it wasn't in the middle east. The Oil rig in FO2. The US government basically moved over there so they could be sure to control it. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Enclave_Oil_Rig Was also as you see a powerful military and industrial base too.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:02 pm

So say the game was set in France it would mean:
No power armor.
No super mutants.
No deathclaws.
No molerats.
No Gecko's.
Little to no energy weapons. (They were american correct?)
No vaults from the Vault-Tec company.
No Enclave.
No BOS.
No Legion.
No NCR.
No FotA.
No Khans/Vipers/Jackals/V15.
No West-Tek.
No jet.
No stealthboys. (American design right?)
No Poseidon. (Again, American right?)
No Vault Boy.
No Pip-Boy.
No Zax.
No holodisks. (I'm not entirly sure about this one, might be an international technology.)
Little to no robots.

Erm... Is there more?


No possiblity of the game taking place there.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:40 pm

How would the series end? I'd like it to end a little bit like this.

2577... President looks at you and says calmly, "You've done the NCR a great honor in the war against the Nightkin." His face is pale as he turns around. You hear the ground start to shake and an army of mutants marches towards you. A laser bolt flies past you into the head of a nearby NCR Ranger. The soldiers charge to combat the mutants as you and the president sprint off to a verti-bird.

As you reach it, the verti-bird explodes. "Damn, that was going to get us to New York away from the Nightkin here," the President gulps. "Follow me, there's an old Bunker that used to be called Lost Hills that we can hide in." You both start sprinting away from the combat and reach a place that has obviously been abandoned for centuries, the chain-link fence is nearly 100% rust and vegetation has nearly taken back the bunker.

You both rush in and the door seals behind you. ", when I became the president of NCR, I knew that it wasn't going to be easy if it came to this," he sighs. "But it's over. Humanity in general is doomed. We may die, but we're taking those mutant bastards with us by using the nukes."

"Damn it, we can't do that, ," You spit back in disgust. "We'll just have to hold out here for a while until the chaos dies down."

"Don't you understand? War, war never changes. Five hundred years ago the world was nearly wiped clean of life by the nuclear holocaust, now we'll be wiping out the super mutant race."

"I'll kill you before I let you destroy NCR."

"I know that," he says as he pulls out a .44 Desert Eagle and puts it up to your head. "Good bye, old friend..." He pulls the trigger and a mist of your blood sprays out of the back of your skull. He powers on an old terminal and puts in disk. He presses a button and you see at least a hundred mushroom clouds all over the U.S.A. And as the globe spins, many, many more all over the globe.

With his last breath before the nuclear apocalypse finally takes him, he says, "Humanity will be doomed, but the world'll live on..."



I think it'd be a cool ending cinematic to the series. Now, of course this is just a rough idea, but something along those lines.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:38 am

Where did all the super mutants come from?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:09 am

Where did all the super mutants come from?


FEV Forced Evolutionary Virus. The Pre-War American army were hoping to use it to make super soldiers but if failed (they got super mutants). Research started by West-Tek under a different name Pan-Immunity Virion Project but then when the military found out what it could do they moved it all to Mariposa Military Base. The great war happened and the base sat closed and abandoned only its automated systems keeping people way.

Harold, Richard Grey and others came across Mariposa before the events of FO1. Harold became wounded and blacked out but was exposed to FEV. He does not know how he got out of the base. Richard fell into the vats of FEV and later mutated into the Master. The others were killed by the automated defenses.

Richard became the master and he came up with the Children of the Cathedral a cult he came up with to get people into Mariposa where he could make them into super mutants. The Master thought if everyone was a super mutant there would be no differences and therefore no more wars and hate. Over time he managed to turn the Children of the Cathedral into a major wasteland religion and had many followers and soon had himself armies of super mutants.

Nightkin come from the Master experimenting on people. Something about lower the radiation the more intellegent a super mutant.

The events of FO1 have Mariposa closed off by the Vault Dweller.

More super mutants come from Mariposa in FO2 after the Enclave re-open Mariposa to get to the damaged Vats of FEV within.


East coast FO3 super mutants come from Vault 87 a vault that had smaller amounts of a different FEV then Mariposa.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:28 pm

Not having all that American tech might make it different but I think we are not giving enough credit to other nations ability to kill each other.... I bet they devoleped stuff just as nasty ( fallout 3 plus dlc had some good ideas what path the chinese devolpers were on, ... Doughboy helmeted mechanical automatons armed with Toxic pellet rifles...and nerve grenades heheh who knows, ( I need to read some english 50's sci fi stuff) And man if anyone would know how to dig in for the long haul ...

Ahh as a side thought hehe instead of Nuka cola they have Isotope tea or somesuch
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:27 pm

long post

I know all that. But since super mutants are already dying off I was wondering how they'd be able to take over the world in 2500s.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:01 pm

I know all that. But since super mutants are already dying off I was wondering how they'd be able to take over the world in 2500s.


Sorry about that :blush: Its late and I did not put two and two together, with your post as a question to Kalarn's post.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:43 pm

I know all that. But since super mutants are already dying off I was wondering how they'd be able to take over the world in 2500s.

Maybeeeee... They found a way to create more? (Which I would absolutely hate, just let the super mutants die out already.)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:48 am

Maybeeeee... They found a way to create more? (Which I would absolutely hate, just let the super mutants die out already.)

Yes, let them be like a rare species that few ever see, and you refer to them in bedtime stories and campfire stories, and some even claim to have seen them. They'd be an ancient myth, people would wonder if they are extinct but here and there, reports of sightings show up. They'd even be reclusive now since they have this history of hate, that they'd be shot at and their numbers diminish without them having any way of reproduction left. Nightkin who run out of Stealthboys become hermits because they can't stand that even other mutants or nightkins can see them, and they dare not to track down new Stealthboys because of the fear of running into others and risk getting killed and hunted down like so many years ago.

Poor muties.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:28 pm

So say the game was set in France it would mean:
No power armor.
No super mutants.
No deathclaws.
No molerats.
No Gecko's.
Little to no energy weapons. (They were american correct?)
No vaults from the Vault-Tec company.
No Enclave.
No BOS.
No Legion.
No NCR.
No FotA.
No Khans/Vipers/Jackals/V15.
No West-Tek.
No jet.
No stealthboys. (American design right?)
No Poseidon. (Again, American right?)
No Vault Boy.
No Pip-Boy.
No Zax.
No holodisks. (I'm not entirly sure about this one, might be an international technology.)
Little to no robots.

Erm... Is there more?



Your either completely missing the point, or your completely ignoring it..

And not all those things would exclusive to the U.S...
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:18 am

Your either completely missing the point, or your completely ignoring it..

And not all those things would exclusive to the U.S...

What wouldn't, aside from Robots?
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:31 am

I do think that a lot of the posters here are underestimating the capacity of the european nations to kill each other without the "American only technology" like power armour or lasers. You do realise that the nations of europe were waging war on each other quite successfully for centuries before europe invented america, I seriously doubt that the end of the world would change this at all.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:21 pm

Your either completely missing the point, or your completely ignoring it..

And not all those things would exclusive to the U.S...


Everything but robots ARE exclusive.

And also, This game can only take place in america, and another thing, Europe was destroyed.

So..
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:22 pm

How would I like to see the game end... In a way that would have 90% of the Fallout fans crying out foul.

Fallout 6 (yes yes I know I skipped 4, and 5 >.> ).

Fallout the RTS game...
All the major factions have carved out a large nation for themselves... Now for the war to end all end wars... With America carved into large faction boarders its time for a true large scale war in the Fallout universe.

We have the NCR from the west...
The Legion from the south...
Calculator/General Barnaky means justify ends BoS/robot army from the north...
Lyon's BoS from the east...

Full scale war for a united America under one flag...

Smaller factions that could be gained by any/most factions as help through side quests would enclude...
Followers of the Apoc.
Various Tribes.
Enclave.
Ghouls.
and more.

While I think this would turn away many 'hardcoe' fans a lot of people thought turning it into a FPS would also... Truth is we are starved for more Fallout odds are we will take it anyway they wish to serve us :) .
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:48 pm

Everything but robots ARE exclusive.

And also, This game can only take place in america, and another thing, Europe was destroyed.

So..



Your right. And they should've kept turn-based combat as well. What a way to to keep the series alive!!

And no, there are plenty of things on that list that wouldn't be exclusive.
Oh, and America was destroyed as well.
The series will have to advance one day, or die. Plain and simple.
if you don't like it, you can go play the original, or you can accept it. Those are your only two options.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:12 pm

Everything but robots ARE exclusive.

And also, This game can only take place in america, and another thing, Europe was destroyed.

So..

Not really, see my reply to that earlier. At least three energy weapons in Fallout are european, holodisks are probably international, I don't see why we wouldn't have mole rats and other mutated european wildlife, eqivalents to all those factions and companies, some counterpart for vaults, remnants of old governments etc...

And...

Europe was destroyed?!?! :o Since when? Unless you mean destroyed like everything else in the world, including USA, then I don't get why it matters if Europe is destroyed... although I would have thought the war was mostly between USA, Chine and USSR, countries that had lots of nuclear warheads. Why would they bomb Europe? Europe was no ally of either side. Of course nuclear fallout would hit Europe and cause mutations and ghouls and such, but most of the destruction of Europe I'd imagine would come from all the wars between the nations, trying to get ahold of as much resources as possible since earth ran out of fossil fuel, and the people of these nation revolting against their [censored] governments as power-hungry factions arose. I'd imagine Europe to be a much darker place, dirtier, grittier, completly awful and there would be no powered pre-war tech since Europe didn't rely on nuclear power like USA did... except for maybe goverment buildings and research complexes, and a few nuclear power plants maybe.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:28 pm

Your either completely missing the point, or your completely ignoring it..

Probably subconsciously ignoring it.

Your right. And they should've kept turn-based combat as well.

They should have done that.

And no, there are plenty of things on that list that wouldn't be exclusive.

Like?

Oh, and America was destroyed as well.

Yeah but they were not involved in the Resource Wars.

The series will have to advance one day, or die. Plain and simple.

It hasn't already? (Which I consider a bad thing, damn FPS crap...)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:30 pm

Your right. And they should've kept turn-based combat as well. What a way to to keep the series alive!!

And no, there are plenty of things on that list that wouldn't be exclusive.
Oh, and America was destroyed as well.
The series will have to advance one day, or die. Plain and simple.
if you don't like it, you can go play the original, or you can accept it. Those are your only two options.


Who the [censored] said I did'nt like the new games?

Europe was said to have been completley destroyed in Fallout (The First game.) and I do play the originals, And the series does'nt have to advance, They should let this series die and NOT turn it into a CoD series type game.

Vault Tek, Gauss Rifles, Power Armor, The Nucelar Powered Cars, Sentry Bots, Eyebots, and etc. are EXCUSIVE to America.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:12 pm

Vault Tek, Gauss Rifles, Power Armor, The Nucelar Powered Cars, Sentry Bots, Eyebots, and etc. are EXCUSIVE to America.

Actually... Scoped Gauss Rifle was a Chinese design and M72 was a german design... Don't hit me! D:
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:07 pm

The first fallout game opening says that Europe was destroyed
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:29 am

Hmm...
About the whole "Fallout set in France" thing: Far Cry. That is all.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:52 am

The first fallout game opening says that Europe was destroyed

The opening says nothing about Europe being destroyed.

In the 21st century, war was still waged over the resources that could be acquired. Only this time, the spoils of war were also its weapons: Petroleum and Uranium. For these resources, China would invade Alaska, the US would annex Canada, and the European Commonwealth would dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth.

In 2077, the storm of world war had come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet was reduced to cinders. And from the ashes of nuclear devastation, a new civilization would struggle to arise.

That's the only thing the opening says about Europe being destroyed, but it doesn't mention Europe specifically, but the whole planet.
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