How to sort out these mods. : IV

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:14 pm

I've fiddled with BOSS, OBMM and Wyre Bash to work out any conflicts and cleaned everything and the game still CTDs when loading a new game.

These are the mods I'm using:

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.3.1]
02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.6]
08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.3]
0B FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
0C Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
0D Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
0E Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0F All Natural.esp [Version 1.3.1]
10 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.3]
11 Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp
12 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp
13 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
14 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.3]
15 Living Economy.esp
16 Living Economy - Items.esp
17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
18 Display Stats.esp [Version 2.0.1]
19 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]
1A Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.0]
1B Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9]
1C Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]
1D Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3]
1E DLCHorseArmor.esp
1F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
20 DLCOrrery.esp
21 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
22 DLCVileLair.esp
23 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]
24 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
25 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
26 DLCSpellTomes.esp
27 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
28 DLCThievesDen.esp
29 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2B Francesco's Optional Files.esp
2C Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2D Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2F Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
30 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
31 OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]
32 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
33 OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]
34 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33]
35 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
36 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
37 DLCFrostcrag.esp
38 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
39 Knights.esp
3A Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.1]
3B Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
3C Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
3D Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3E Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3F Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
40 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 4.2.1]
41 Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
42 Level_Rates_Modified_x3.esp
43 Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp
44 Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp
45 OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]
46 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]
47 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I've disabled anything in FCOM that could conflict with OOO and nothing.

I'm at a loss to figure out why adding just a small numbers of mods like this is so bloody hard with this game. It certain isn't this bad or unintuitive for Morrowind or FO3.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:38 am

Just to start out with, you are using three different weather esp's and three different water esp's. They WILL conflict--you need to choose only one of each.
Also, to be clear, FCOM is only the glue/patch which allows Francesco's and OOO to work alongside each other. You should probably go back and re-install it according to instructions, or it will not function correctly.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:03 am

From my own experience, conflict resolution in Morrowind is many times more complicated than for Oblivion. It looks like you just didn't research what you were installing, since as daemondarque says you have an incomplete FCOM installation... of the water mods, two of them are from the same mod package from which you're supposed to use only one of the two files. The same is true of your weather mods, it's a "pick one" thing where you have them both installed. You also have both Frans and OOOs respawn changes, which directly conflict, though they probably wouldn't cause crashes. The OOO magic script effect fix is replaced by a Bashed Patch tweak.

Do you have OBSE installed? You have OBSE dependent mods, loading them without OBSE is a guaranteed CTD on load.