How stable is your modded game?

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:01 pm

I don't buy this one at all. Blade of Mercy insists on this advice in his 50 steps guide, but his only justification is anecdotal. And I personally have activated and deactivated as many as 50 mods at a time without crashing as a result. There just doesn't seem to be any rationality for the process. It sounds like superstition.

Cleaning dirty mods and quitting the game entirely between reloads are the two steps I have taken that have directly affected the stability of the game. I rarely crash at all.
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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  You Are Here.esm03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Qarls_Harvest.esm07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]09  VASE - core.esm0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  BetterMusicSystem.esm0C  NNWAEMaster.esm0D  CM Partners.esm0E  beardy.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]++  Shivering OOO.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp19  Side's EAX Control.esp  [Version 0.9]1A  WindowLightingSystem.esp1B  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1D  AFK_PrayerIdles.esp  [Version 1.0]1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]1F  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]20  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp21  Qarls_Harvest.esp22  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.0]23  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.1.1]24  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.3.1]25  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]26  DLCOrrery.esp27  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]28  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]29  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2A  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2B  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]2C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp++  TFF_FantasyFigures_Base.esp2D  Explosives.esp2E  SSA.esp  [Version 2.0]2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]31  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp32  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]34  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]35  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]36  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]37  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]38  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  VASE - Cyrodiil for MMM.esp++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Qarls_Harvest addon_MMM.esp3F  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]40  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]41  AdenseEpicDungeon1_5.esp42  BD&R - Deepgrave.esp43  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.2]44  Chapels.esp45  Dwarven Mines.esp46  GTAesgaard.esp47  GTAesgaard_2.esp48  JolardHome.esp49  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp4A  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp4B  EiAmod.esp  [Version 1.1]++  EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp4C  LordKain_Adash_World.esp4D  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]4E  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp4F  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp50  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.2]51  The Crimson Queen.esp  [Version 2.1]52  za_bankmod.esp53  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp54  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]55  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.2]56  Knights.esp57  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]58  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]59  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5A  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.3]5B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]5C  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 5.5]++  HOD_delayer.esp5D  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5E  Birthsigns Expanded.esp  [Version 3.]5F  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]60  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.1]61  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]62  Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp63  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]64  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]65  attack and hide medium v2.0.esp66  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]67  TRAP.esp68  TheOubliette.esp69  Automatic Timescale.esp  [Version 1.1.1]6A  Shining Creatures.esp++  Bashed Delayers NE - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.06]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]6B  Bashed Patch, 0.esp



I never stagger my installs either, I just install everything I know works (FCOM and about 100 misc. mods), then go from there with mods I'm unsure of.

Installing a boatload of unknowns at one time would be a bit iffy I suppose, but otherwise I tend to agree with the superstition bit on that.

For reference, heres what I'm currently running, almost all of these installed at the same time.
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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Harvest[Containers].esm06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.4]0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0E  NNWAEMaster.esm0F  CustomSpellIcons.esm10  PMSneakySummons.esm  [Version 1]**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp11  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]14  Better Cities .esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp1A  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1D  FranOBSEConfig.esp  [Version 0.5]1E  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp1F  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp20  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]21  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  phinix-waterfix.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp22  AmbientTownSounds.esp23  MIS.esp24  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp25  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp26  Storms & Sound.esp27  WindowLightingSystem.esp28  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp29  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp**  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp2A  DID3_DoubleTrouble.esp2B  Happyhannah's Wines.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]2C  More_Vegetables.esp2D  Never die.esp2E  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp2F  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]++  Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp30  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]31  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]32  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]33  Vacuity.esp  [Version 0.2]34  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]35  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]36  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.1.1]37  DLCHorseArmor.esp38  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]39  DLCOrrery.esp3A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]3B  DLCVileLair.esp3C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]3D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp3E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]3F  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp40  100%ChameleonMod.esp++  CM_Better Wine_SI.esp41  Nicoroshi Creations DW Light.esp42  Nicos Kynareth Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]43  Mart's Monster Mod - Hemingweys NPC and Guard Capes.esp  [Version 1.0]44  DLCThievesDen.esp45  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]46  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp47  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]48  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]49  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp4A  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4B  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4C  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]4D  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]4E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]4F  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]50  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-DLT_Remover.esp  [Version 1.33]51  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp52  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]53  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]54  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]55  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls.esp  [Version 1.1]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]56  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]57  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]58  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]59  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5B  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5D  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]5F  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]60  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]61  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]62  kuerteeWanderingEncounters.esp++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]63  SSEE-OOO.esp64  OOO-No_Clutter_Ownership.esp65  Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO (No Spell Change).esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp66  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]67  AdenseEpicDungeon.esp68  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]69  Bottomless Cavern.esp6A  CaveOfWishcraft 1_1.esp6B  Halls of Fortitude.esp6C  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]6D  NNWAREAyleidDungeons_Series1EV.esp  [Version 2.2]6E  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp6F  NNWARE06-RhyeliaEmeroEV.esp++  Shady Sam Enhanced.esp70  Shivering Isles Root System.esp71  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4.1]72  Ayleid Respawn v1.0 - For The Ayleid Steps.esp73  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp74  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp75  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp76  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]77  DLCFrostcrag.esp78  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]79  Knights.esp7A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  DLC_MOBS.esp7B  The Lost Spires.esp7C  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.2.COBL]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]7D  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.9]7E  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]7F  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp80  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]81  xulTheHeath.esp82  XulEntiusGorge.esp83  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]84  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]85  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]86  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]87  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]88  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]89  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]8A  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]8B  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]8C  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]8D  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]8E  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]8F  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]90  xulPantherRiver.esp91  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]92  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]93  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]94  UL Imperial Isle Adense Epic Dungeon Patch.esp95  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]96  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]97  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]98  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]99  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]9A  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp9B  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.1]9C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]9D  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]9E  Pitcher Plant and Lily Ingredients.esp9F  phinix_portable_tent.espA0  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]A1  DS Portable Sorters.esp  [Version 1.3]A2  DS Storage Sacks.esp  [Version 1.3]++  more books teach.espA3  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]A4  RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp  [Version 2.0]A5  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].espA6  Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.espA7  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espA8  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.espA9  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]AA  ATakesAll.espAB  Wayshrines Improved.espAC  Quest Award Leveling SI.espAD  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espAE  RealisticForceMedium.espAF  RealisticMagicForceMedium.espB0  EnchantmentMastery.espB1  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.1.2]B2  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]B3  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]B4  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]B5  MidasSpells.espB6  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur4x.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 4x.espB7  ArcaneArchery.espB8  RshAlchemy.espB9  RshAlchemyRecipes.espBA  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.espBB  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]BC  attack and hide medium v2.0.espBD  No psychic guards v1.2.espBE  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]++  kuertee MMM OnLoadCS disabled hmf effects.espBF  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]C0  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]C1  Legendary Abilities-Reflect MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]C2  Grandmaster of Alchemy.espC3  S.P.A.M. 100+.esp  [Version 2.2]**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]C4  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]C5  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]C6  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]C7  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  PMSneakySummonCompatibility.esp  [Version 1]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]C8  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalSeamReducerHighElfFix.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]C9  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]CA  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.4]CB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]CC  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]CD  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]CE  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]CF  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]D0  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.4]D1  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]D2  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]D3  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]D4  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]D5  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.4]D6  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp  [Version 4.7.0]D7  TheOubliette.esp**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espD8  bgMagicLightningbolt.espD9  Detect Life Shader [New].esp++  LightSpellWhiteDimmer.espDA  qazFingerSnap.espDB  Hemingweys Capes.esp  [Version 2.00]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  OOO Harvest Containers Filter patch for mods.esp  [Version 1.03]DC  AN Scripts.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]DD  P-Froggys Automatic NPC-Respawner (1).espDE  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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cosmo valerga
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:57 am

I run a moderately modded game. A few large esps and esms, maybe 40 small esps and esms, and 6 to 10 dlls.
Most of the time I get a crash every 1.5 hours or so of gameplay. I believe that about a third of my crashes are due to OSR heap replacement, but I leave that on anyway as I consider the performance boost worth it. Every once in a while, maybe every 15 hours of gameplay on average, I run in to a repeating crash. When this happens I typically crash every minute for 10 minutes or so until the problem goes away. The causes (or at least the fixes) seem to vary widely - in some cases I can fix it by enabling weOCPS, in other cases I can fix it by tweaking my in-game behavior slightly in the area where the crashes happen, in other cases it just seems to go away on its own after a little while. In pretty much all cases once the issue goes away I cannot later reproduce the issue except by loading a saved game from right before the issue occurred, and sometimes not even then. The only consistent pattern I have observed with these is that with some of them carrying a ton of ingredients or being in the vicinity of containers that hold a ton of ingredients can make them worse.
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Brooke Turner
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:11 pm

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Masters for: Streamsave_4.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm02  Silgrad_Tower.esm  [Version 3.36]03  Windfall.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  VASE - core.esm0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]10  NNWAEMaster.esm11  CM Partners.esm12  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.0]13  AdventurersItemMod.esp  [Version 1.0Cleaned]14  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1C  NaturalHabitat.esp1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7Merged]++  Real Lava 1.3.esp  [Version 1.3]++  Diverse Voices.esp  [Version 0.3Modified]20  Storms & Sound.esp  [Version 3.0OBSE]21  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]22  WindowLightingSystem.esp23  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp  [Version 2.11.Merged]++  BrighterTorches_v1.2.esp24  Elys - Yuda The Elder Trainer.esp25  New Potions by Tealpanda.esp26  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]27  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.1]28  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3Cleaned]29  Immersive Travelers.esp  [Version 1.0Cleaned]2A  PTRoamingNPCs.esp2B  FF_Real_Thirst.esp  [Version 1.2Cleaned]2C  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp2D  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]2E  FormID Finder4.esp  [Version 4.51]2F  Spell Delete And Item Remove.esp30  Streamline 3.1.esp31  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5Merged]32  Maps!.esp  [Version Cleaned]33  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.0]34  DLCHorseArmor.esp35  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]++  Mart's Monster Mod - 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AN Real Lights patch.esp  [Version 1.00]81  TheForgottenRealm.esp  [Version 1.5.Cleaned]82  The_Tower_of_the_Lich_King-4492.esp83  TheForgottenShields.esp  [Version 1.1Cleaned]84  NRB4+ForgottonShields Patch.esp85  Trails of Cyrodiil North Short Cut.esp  [Version Cleaned]86  TR_Stirk.esp87  Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp88  Valenwood Improved.esp  [Version 1.00.0.Cleaned.EV]89  Vampires.esp  [Version Beta1Cleaned]8A  WeaponsOfTheNine.esp  [Version 2.3Cleaned]8B  WOTFH_1.3.esp  [Version 1.3Cleaned]8C  Windfall.esp  [Version 1.0Cleaned]8D  za_bankmod.esp8E  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp8F  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]90  Artificerens Battlehorn Coblized.esp  [Version 1.1]91  DLCFrostcrag.esp92  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]93  Knights.esp  [Version Cleaned]94  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp95  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]96  TOTF.esp  [Version 1.22Cleaned]97  TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp98  RTT.esp  [Version 3.01]99  The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 14]9A  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.5Cleaned]9B  Blood&Mud.esp  [Version FinalCleaned]9C  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]9D  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp  [Version 2.0]9E  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp  [Version 1.3Cleaned]9F  MannimarcoRevisited.esp  [Version 1.0Cleaned]A0  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]A1  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]A2  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]A3  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]A4  ElsweyrAnequina.esp++  ElsweyrAnequina - Races HGEC-Robert.esp  [Version 1.1]A5  Tales from Elsweyr Anequina.esp  [Version 2.6Cleaned]A6  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.espA7  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.9]A8  NRB4+QFE Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]A9  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]AA  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.espAB  mythsandlegends.espAC  bartholm.esp  [Version 7.0]AD  Duke Patrick's Old Man on the Mountain.esp  [Version 1.7]++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]AE  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.1Merged]AF  Automatic Difficulty Increaser.espB0  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]B1  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 2.0.1]B2  DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp  [Version 1.1]B3  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espB4  Actors Have Torches.esp  [Version Merged]B5  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]B6  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]B7  RenCorpseMod.esp  [Version 1.0]B8  Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones.esp  [Version 1.0]B9  RTSWelkyndClstrTreasure.esp  [Version 2.0]BA  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].espBB  Soulgem Magic.esp  [Version 1.0]BC  Storms & Sound - Bank of Cyrodiil.espBD  Storms & Sound - Bartholm.espBE  Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.espBF  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.espC0  Werewolf-Legends.esp  [Version 2.0Cleaned]C1  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 1.0]C2  More Realistic Encumbrance with Fatigue.esp  [Version 1.0]C3  ANB_Dynamic_Regen.esp  [Version 2.2]C4  RealisticForceAndMagicForceMedium.esp  [Version 1.0]C5  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]C6  TelekineticDamage.esp  [Version 0.6]C7  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]C8  AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.espC9  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89Cleaned]CA  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]CB  MidasSpells.esp  [Version 995A]CC  AudaciousMagery.esp  [Version 1.09]CD  Poison Arrows.esp  [Version 0.7]CE  Potion Mixer.espCF  Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.1]D0  EnchantmentRestore.esp  [Version 1.9]++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp  [Version 1.9]D1  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp  [Version 1.2]D2  RenGuardOverhaul.espD3  Denock Arrows.espD4  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.espD5  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]D6  Duke Patricks - Fresh Kills Now Alert The NPCs.esp  [Version 4]D7  Duke Patricks - Smash of the Titans.esp  [Version 2.1]D8  CLS-OldFriends-OBSE.espD9  IDFQR, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.4]DA  OOO-Intelligence Overhaul BJ.esp  [Version 1.0]DB  Progress.esp  [Version 2.0]DC  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0Shield]DD  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp  [Version 3.0]DE  RealisticLeveling.esp**  immersive_caves_auto.esp  [Version 1.4]**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp++  BulkyNord.esp  [Version 1.0]++  BulkyOrcs.esp  [Version 1.0]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.espDF  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.1]E0  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]**  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.espE1  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E2  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]E3  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, Beautification.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]E4  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]E5  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]++  bgIntegrationEV - Unique Clothes.esp  [Version 0.9]E6  MM_NoMoreAnnoyingMessages.esp  [Version 1.2]**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]E7  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp++  Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]E8  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 2.09]++  CoreRandmonClothing4Npcs.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]E9  Bashed Patch, 0.espEA  MergedMaps.esp


As long as I remember to Streamsave before moving between interior / exterior, I don't crash at all (well, rarely - once in a great while). I've played for as much as 15 hours straight.

I clean every mod with Tes4Edit and Pyffi the meshes before I use it.
I run Oblivion Stutter remover and Streamline. (enabled purge on Streamsave and I have 35 save slots configures).
I have a few texture replacers, but nothing on the order of Qarl's.

My system isn't that great but it is better than average:
Intel Q6600 oc to 3.1gHtz, 4Gb Viper X3 ram (even though XP doesn't use it all), multiple bsa's installed on separate drives and a 1Gb GT240.

Yes, Virginia, you can have a crash free (well, 99% crash free) modded Oblivion.
You just have to put some work into it and know what your system is capable of so you don't over extend it.
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