i know they were god like but compared to the nine divines and dreadra princes where would they stack up

Category error.

You can't measure power, that's just silly.

But, I will leave a little tidbit; Sotha Sil and Alamexia did get their butts kicked hard by Mehrunes Dagon at the end of the 1st era, even though they did defeat him.

thanks for the info i just never felt like mortals that stole power from the heart of a god should be on the same level as other gods

Ayem and Seht aren't all that strong; Ayem needed Wulfharth's help to crush an Akaviri invasion.
Vehk is pretty powerful, given how he's achieved CHIM and probably also the Mantle and the Enantiomorph. He flooded all of Morrowind, stopped Baar Dau, and [censored] Azura.
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Why is that censored? Vehk took his bone-spear and stiffed it down Azura's throat. The r-word is the only thing that makes sense.

They were. The problem is that talking about how "strong" gods are, as if they're Mortal Kombat heroes, is just wrong thinking.


There is no other context in which that would be an appropriate topic of conversation on this forum is why.

Vivec has 2000 more hitpoints than Mehrunes Dagon, but they're otherwise on par with eachother.

Jyggalag is considerably weaker, while Sheogorath is much more powerful than all three combined, and is even able to teleport anybody who attacks him, so they fall to their deaths.

/thread.

lol im still trying to wrap my head around the power of the gods in the lore if the tribunal were that strong why didnt they say f off to the empire

They remembered they nearly lost the war against the Reman Empire. And although I don't think they wouldn't have known it at the time, Dagoth Ur's imminent awakening would have put them in a two-front war.

Because they have a country to take care of. I know that in your Age of Empires and Europa Universalis and stuff people are statistics, but the Tribunal seems to care for the well-being of the people, and that includes not getting them into a war they can prevent by giving some guy a broken robot.

I beg to differ.. Almost any story with molag bal, especially with molag and vivec.

I dont get it though, in the period between when the Numidium was lost, Tiber dead and the return of the Nerevar couldn't any of the three have just wiped the floor with the imperials and thrown them all out of morrowind?

There were so many moments of unrest and instablity in the empire, why not take advantage of that?

Because the empire would be back with avengance?

They may not have seen the point. They still kept a vast majority of their autonomy in the terms of the Armistice, so to put their people at war for pride's sake may not have been seen as a reasonable risk.

And I'm sure they were aware that their power was weakening -- they'd been unable to renew their divinity directly from the Heart since late in the 2nd Era.

why werent they getting stronger like dagoth ur

Before Dagoth Ur awakened, the Tribunal would go to the Heart chamber every year or so and renew their powers. When Dagoth Ur woke up, he prevented them from doing it anymore. And since he had constant exposure to the Heart, his powers increased over time.

k thats makes it clearer for me now i know why they needed the ghost gate i kinda glossed over the story in morrowind got lost in all the sidequest lol

Ghost Gate was to contain Dagoth Ur and his Corpsus fiends from over running the island and all of Morrowind I believe.

The Empire has some gods too. Tiber Septim, for one. Vivec is described as bowing before Uriel VII just for having the blood of Tiber Septim in him, he had so much respect for the man.

gods dont bow i know i cant see a deadra prince bowing to anything i did hear that vivec and the female one i cant remember her name liked to get busy with their guards i wonder how that worked lol

Somewhat drunk, so forgive me. Just broken up with my fiance. Okay. So.

How can you not measure power? Not in a statistical or numerical number, but in capacity. Whose power overwhelms the other? Surely it is possible to judge who can do more with their power. After all, we can judge mages. Though that's different because their not gods. And the Tribunal, as someone stated, couldn't get to the Heart because of Dagoth Ur. His capacity overwhelmed them. So in essence, he was more powerful.

You know what? Forget it. Doesn't matter.

It's also possible that Vivec realized (I'm not sure the other two Tribunes realized it) that there's a destiny in the Elder Scrolls universe; maybe he knew the Empire had a role to play out.

i wonder how the tribunal and dagoth ur wouldve been treated at a big god gathering lol something tells me they wouldnt be to popular lol

Not to mention that at the time of the armistice the Empire had http://imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-arcturian-heresy (a Shezarrine) who really really hated the Tribunal and would have used all his power to fight them. Gods get touchy when you [censored] with their disembodied living hearts.

Why should a god care about bowing? He was once mortal, or at least Vehk was, and he seems to retain some of his mortal aspects. Besides as Mr Quimper pointed out he respects the blood of Tiber Septim. Of course http://www.imperial-library.info/content/forum-archives-michael-kirkbride but Kirkbride was speaking of Tiber Septim, not Talos. I'm unsure of the events that led up to that. In that same link, Kirkbride also lists his most powerful "beings" but even he suggests the list isn't set in stone.



Vivec and Almalexia did not just have relations with their guards, but with Princes of Oblivion as well. And the Daedra were http://www.imperial-library.info/content/trial-vivec participants.