And who decides what "valid points" are?

Who cares he's talking crap anyway a company like Crytek will probably be far more concerned with 1000 people spamming and trolling than 10 people making "valid points". If 10 people made incredibly insightful observations about changes that Crytek feels will be highly profitable and can still yet be implemented that would be different.

But merely 10 valid points? Give me a break. A focus group of 1000 is far more important. Especially if they are ranting like lunatics.

1 ranting lunatic you can dismiss as just a ranting lunatic, but 1000? Well then at that point (long before it actually) you need to start looking at why they're ranting. And if your customers views are irrational you then have to sit down and figure out how to make irrational people buy the game, or at least how to do it with your next game.

And who decides what "valid points" are?

Who cares he's talking crap anyway a company like Crytek will probably be far more concerned with 1000 people spamming and trolling than 10 people making "valid points". If 10 people made incredibly insightful observations about changes that Crytek feels will be highly profitable and can still yet be implemented that would be different.

But merely 10 valid points? Give me a break. A focus group of 1000 is far more important. Especially if they are ranting like lunatics.

1 ranting lunatic you can dismiss as just a ranting lunatic, but 1000? Well then at that point (long before it actually) you need to start looking at why they're ranting. And if your customers views are irrational you then have to sit down and figure out how to make irrational people buy the game, or at least how to do it with your next game.

Yeah, and you have examples to back this up, obviously. Right?

And who decides what "valid points" are?

Who cares he's talking crap anyway a company like Crytek will probably be far more concerned with 1000 people spamming and trolling than 10 people making "valid points". If 10 people made incredibly insightful observations about changes that Crytek feels will be highly profitable and can still yet be implemented that would be different.

But merely 10 valid points? Give me a break. A focus group of 1000 is far more important. Especially if they are ranting like lunatics.

1 ranting lunatic you can dismiss as just a ranting lunatic, but 1000? Well then at that point (long before it actually) you need to start looking at why they're ranting. And if your customers views are irrational you then have to sit down and figure out how to make irrational people buy the game, or at least how to do it with your next game.

Yeah, and you have examples to back this up, obviously. Right?

So if 10 people had made valid points as to why the PS3 demo had been flawed and everybody else loved it do you still think they would've pulled the demo?

Iceman, JackPumpkinhead and Acerimmer: can we stay on topic plz? I just wanted to see what people thought, not start a flame war. Cheers

The game will sell ok. It will not sell crazy amounts of copies but it will sell fine. It will sell the most on the PC and then the Xbox and then the PS3. PS3 sales will be significantly worse (regardless of the quality of the retail product) because of the horrible demo they put out

So if 10 people had made valid points as to why the PS3 demo had been flawed and everybody else loved it do you still think they would've pulled the demo?

Because a connection issue is obviously something that's up for debate, am I right? Get real, please.

^and lack of advanced graphics options IS something that's up for debate?
Lol. You're hopeless, broski.

Regardless of that comment not making much sense in this context, I will address it anyway. It actually is. And I've explained before why it's probably not there. Refer to my post here:
http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=8258&p=128330#p128330

The only arguments that are valid right now is the lack of SandBox3 and advanced graphics options. DX11 has been confirmed so we all need to shut up about it.

Crysis 2 will probably sell very well, you have to remember that with great negative hype, comes great curiosity

We all don't have a **** clue if it will sell well or not. What you guys said yet might be reasoned and clever, but im pretty sure it's wrong. It's not possible to find the main reasons why it will sell well or bad. Im experienced shuhu.

I hope for Crytek it will sell well. This might be a bad crysis, but I still dont want it to be the last crysis.


+1 To The Not Wanting It To Be The Last Crysis!

But We Can Have Fun Guessing Can't We?

not the pc version

I'm pretty sure it's going to be selling on a slow start but will ultimately sell a lot by the end of the year.

This taken from judging most people's reaction to the game itself by testing it out on co-workers and friends. Like showing them a video of trailers, gameplay and such.

Not really surprising but all CoD or Halo players who saw the vids said they were gonna buy it and those who played the demo said they would definitely buy it while some RPG fans said they weren't really interested that much.

Considering how much CoD and Halo fans are out there and if they saw more of this game, probably more than half of them would buy it. My guess is around 70% but only if they see some media about it.

So if you totaled just how many CoD or Halo players are out there while selling on multiplatform = $$$$$$$ even if only 20% of them bought the game.

But that's just my guess.

Oh yeah, a good chunk of the gamers I asked about didn't even know about this game until after I asked them.

Most of them knew more about BF3 than this game. Also a lot of them have never even heard of the 1st Crysis.

I think it will def do better than Bullet storm which was completely dumb.

No MP. Why would anyone buy a game like that.

Idk but i hope it does well i wanna smoke many noobs on this game

We all don't have a **** clue if it will sell well or not. What you guys said yet might be reasoned and clever, but im pretty sure it's wrong. It's not possible to find the main reasons why it will sell well or bad. Im experienced shuhu.

I hope for Crytek it will sell well. This might be a bad crysis, but I still dont want it to be the last crysis.


+1 To The Not Wanting It To Be The Last Crysis!

But We Can Have Fun Guessing Can't We?


Very true. But i dont think this will be the last crysis by a long shot... I hope the new Gen of consoles comes out and this game gets even better

We all don't have a **** clue if it will sell well or not. What you guys said yet might be reasoned and clever, but im pretty sure it's wrong. It's not possible to find the main reasons why it will sell well or bad. Im experienced shuhu.

I hope for Crytek it will sell well. This might be a bad crysis, but I still dont want it to be the last crysis.


+1 To The Not Wanting It To Be The Last Crysis!

But We Can Have Fun Guessing Can't We?


Very true. But i dont think this will be the last crysis by a long shot... I hope the new Gen of consoles comes out and this game gets even better
Agree with ya.

It will sell well.

Well enought for Crysis 3 with the Matrix engine =3