How will it all fit on disc? : V

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:35 am

My main concern for skyrim specifically on xbox 360.

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:04 am

Epic compression methods. And alot of optimization.

How do you think Fallout NV and Oblivion fit on disc?

» Tue May 03, 2011 10:31 am

I don't think this is really a concern...if it doesn't fit they'll put two discs in there.

Really with all Beth games, you should be downloading this to your hard drive anyway. Generally faster and more stable.

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:05 am

It will, don't worry.

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:55 am

My main concern for skyrim specifically on xbox 360.

The consoles have their own formats they use to stuff more data onto their disks, not to mention that due to the lower res textures, it opens up alot more space. You can see this in several games, for example Bioshock 2 on the PC is 11GB while the 360 version is less than 7GB.

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:09 pm

I believe I read something in the forum a while back that said Xbox games previously used only a part of the game disc, and that they now are utilizing the full disc, so I don't think this will be a problem.

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:56 am

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» Tue May 03, 2011 10:44 am

I don't think this is really a concern...if it doesn't fit they'll put two discs in there.

Really with all Beth games, you should be downloading this to your hard drive anyway. Generally faster and more stable.

Not everyone has big enough hard drives for that.

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:04 am

They've done it before. They're not going to pull off a Visceral Games move and put a game that's capable of fitting on one disc on a wasted second disc (those who've played or own Dead Space 2 know what I'm talking about). Oblivion was huge, Fallout 3 was huge, and it fit on one disc. It shouldn't be a problem.

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:22 am

Well PS3 won't have a problem with the Blu ray and I think 360 will be fine too. The longer the console is out, don't developers get better with compression and finding new techniques for these things?

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:29 am

The consoles have their own formats they use to stuff more data onto their disks, not to mention that due to the lower poly textures, it opens up alot more space. You can see this in several games, for example Bioshock 2 on the PC is 11GB while the 360 version is less than 7GB.

Wahhh? textures have polygons now? :turtle: i believe you are still with tesselation in your mind :tongue:

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:12 am

Through the power of human ingenuity. And whole [censored] load of compression.

» Tue May 03, 2011 7:01 am

Not everyone has big enough hard drives for that.

True, good point...in my experience it's worth it enough to go out and buy one though. MUCH better imo.

But if that's not the case, I'm sure Beth can hire some dexterous bosmer to really squeeze the data onto the discs.

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:04 am

Wahhh? textures have polygons now? :turtle: i believe you are still with tesselation in your mind :tongue:

Sorry, meant low res :tongue: Thanks for pointing it out, I'll amend that. Guess it's a hazard of jumping from a tessellation discussion into this hehe.

» Mon May 02, 2011 10:51 pm

Sorry, meant low res :tongue: Thanks for pointing it out, I'll amend that. Guess it's a hazard of jumping from a tessellation discussion into this hehe.

Yes lol i figured exactly that haha don't worry i make far worse mistakes and all the time lol :foodndrink:

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:49 am

you know, i was thinking the same thing, but maybe they might do what bioware did with ME2, but idk how they'd do that when its an open world game. but beth will figure it out, guaranteed

» Tue May 03, 2011 5:07 am

Not everyone has big enough hard drives for that.

Not everyone has an Xbox or a PS3 or a strong enough PC.

But if they want to play, they will have to buy one.

» Tue May 03, 2011 9:15 am

They mentioned on one of the podcasts that they had to dump a lot of dialogue in Oblivion because of disc space limitations so it is a valid concern I guess.

» Tue May 03, 2011 5:01 am

Not everyone has an Xbox or a PS3 or a strong enough PC.

But if they want to play, they will have to buy one.

Except that having a large HDD isn't a necessity to play.

» Tue May 03, 2011 12:14 am

Except that having a large HDD isn't a necessity to play.

True, but if they want to have DLC content, they do need one because as far as I know it requires you to save the game to the consoles HDD so that the DLC can be applied. Besides, games run so much more smoothly on the 360 if you save it to your HDD.

» Tue May 03, 2011 11:02 am

True, but if they want to have DLC content, they do need one because as far as I know it requires you to save the game to the consoles HDD so that the DLC can be applied. Besides, games run so much more smoothly on the 360 if you save it to your HDD.

This. And, if you install a game into your 360 hard drive, the disc itself won't have to spin, therefore, your 360 won't overheat. (Too quickly, that is.)

» Mon May 02, 2011 7:15 pm

Good points. Thankfully I just got one of the 360 slims with a 250gb HDD.

» Tue May 03, 2011 2:21 am

Rage is 1 To big and it's still on only 1 disc.
So they'll ship it on only one disc.

» Tue May 03, 2011 6:48 am

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» Tue May 03, 2011 8:06 am

Except that having a large HDD isn't a necessity to play.

Large hard drives weren't a necessity to play games on a PC in the early days either, you could run a complete game off a floppy disc. But things have changed a bit since then. You either adapt or you stop playing, it's as simple as that.