Sorry, Haven't played Fallout 1 in seven years. My bad.

tough choice between the vault dweller and the chosen one... but I think the chosen one - at least when you played a..uh..good-hearted char - had more influence to his world, than the vault dweller has had. just for example he fixes geckos power plant, finds a cure for jet, annihilates the hubologists, spies on and destroys the enclave.. the vault dweller did much as well, but he was less effective, I think.
and what did the lone wanderer achieve at all? he's just absolving rather small jobs while he's floating in a rill of predestination.. dying as a martyr is all he does in the end. that may be cool for a certain group of muslims, but for me? naw...

I choose the Lone Wanderer, because this one at least has a background (heck, one is present at his/her birth) and is not some random nobody thrown into the thick of it, like in some Elder Scrolls game.

The Vault Dweller all the way.

But maybe after Fallout 4 it might be the LW.

Alot of the reasons given for the vault dweller show up because we can see the consequences of his actions in F2. The LW has not had this show for him yet. If F4 has us in DC or at least a trip to DC we might see that in another few years the place is a hell of alot better. A statue in Megaton, All the water is clean, the Vault 87 mutants gone (it could happen) the B.O.S. formed a army under the direction of Rivet City and have cleaned up the raider's and slavers. This could all happen and the LW would be just as good as the VD. But we don't know how DC is changed yet. But we do know what the actions of the VD did to create a better world. There would be no NCR without him saving Tandi (who seemed unimportant at the time really). So heres to hoping that F4 will let us know what changes have been made to DC.

Beth will likely not include any aspects of Fallout 3's consequences in the game, as they never do in any of the Elder Scrolls, it ruins the immersiveness of the series, only main-quest happenings matter (and they're nearly always completely linear, except Daggerfall, but it was by made linear by canon), and seeing as Fallout 3 was geographically limited to only a small area instead of an enitre continent (or world, depends on your interpretation) as in the Elder Scrolls, I doubt we will ever hear of anything that happens in Fallout 3 in any of the games to come. Fallout 2 was only like that becasue it was a direct sequel to Fallout 1, and what remained of the origional developers at Black Isles only used the world they already created, Beth's philosophy on series continuation is worlds different then theirs.

But then again, the Lone Wanderer has the coolest name

Then the LW's actions mean nothing unlike the Vault Dweller who has noticeable made the world better.

I voted for the lone wanderer because ;

Chosen one is very very very very very very clich?

Vault dwellers allright but i dont like him because my fallout 1 glitched. :cryvaultboy:

Vault Dweller tops my list.

I vote for the Chosen One. My last playthrough was a bi-sixual girl, with an awesome car. My megaton on wheels. Granted the VD had it the worst and took care of the muties, but I feel the CO is the one that does the most good for the area. The CO actually gets towns to work together (Modoc and the slags, Vault city and gecko....), the CO takes care of the Enclave, ends slavery (Starting to sound like the LW, but in harsher times) and my list could keep going.

You cant beat a jet addicted porm star that knows how to box

I'd compare the Lone Wanderer to a kid just getting out of High School who thinks he's the best in the world because he completed High School. But that wasn't a choice

With every DLC the Lone Wanderer is becoming even more impressive.

Vault Dweller, for the many reasons stated in the last 3 pages.

Lone Wanderer for me. The Vault Dweller just followed the orders of his [censored] of an overseer, not seeing how he [censored] him, pardon my french. Then he wandered in the wastes as a broken men. The Chosen One just tumbled through the lands, asking everyone for the GECK and later the Enclave, rather randomly achieving his goals. The Lone Wanderer however escaped the dictature of Vault 101, became a big hero just like the other two and then he sacrificed himself. Great story.

This thread makes me really want to play the first two.

Indeed. Only people who have played all three main games in the series ought to vote here, because these polls tend to get biased results due to the fact many here haven't played FO1/2.

It's entirely plausible that is in the same blood line

Really?

No, not really.

Thanks Ausir, I was hoping that the bloodline thing looked wrong to someone else as well.

It's kind of funny to read the title and then the poll where it says: How do you compare the Lone Wanderer...to the Lone Wanderer :hehe:

This is a very difficult choice as I think all three characters made very impressive contributions in their own way and in their own story, all 3 leave a marked legacy that has influenced and changed the North American Wasteland.

All 3 were young and inexperienced and were driven out of their homes for reasons beyond their control and all 3 had extremely tough enemies to overcome. If I had to choose I guess I would choose the Vault Dweller because he faced the most threatening enemy of all with "The Master"; as great as Fallout 2's Enclave is as an enemy or Fallout 3's compilation of savage Vault 87 mutants and new East Coast Enclave are, the Master was literally spreading like a virus in a way which would have been next to unstoppable after a certain point had been reached.

As far as the bloodline goes I actually do pretend that all characters are descendants of the Vault Dweller, I put the same last name on all of my main "hero" characters in each game. Hell I even did that with Tactics with my hero being a great uncle or something like that to the Chosen One. James I pretend is just one of the children CO had and LW is his grandson. Making kind of a family dynasty in the wastelands with all of their achievements, I'll continue this with New Vegas and Fallout 4 when they arrive as well even if all of it is bullcrap in my own mind. :dance:

James was born when the Chosen was 5 years old.

It might make more sense just to say that the Chosen One and Lone Wanderer are just "reincarnations" of the Vault Dweller (sort of like Link in The Legend of Zelda). The Vault Dweller is likely dead by the time the Chosen One is born, and it's not that far fetched to assume that the Chosen One could have been killed in the ten years between Fallout 2 and the Lone Wanderer's birth. That is, if you believe in that spiritual stuff.

Otherwise, the only way you could really explain the Lone Wanderer's relation to the VD, CO is if James was say... the Chosen One's brother and he left Arroyo when he was young and headed to the east coast.

The Vault Dweller was the first of his kind; before him nobody dared leave a perfectly good Vault. The Vault Dweller then proceeded to destroy the Khan raiders, saving the people of Shady Sands and perhaps even more lives than that. He then proceeded to deliver Junktown from the clutches of Gizmo and deliver it to the good mayor Killian Darkwater, allowing the town to burgeon and then traveled to the Hub, where he saved the caravan routes from the Deathclaw, slew the villian Decker, and preserved the stability of that city. Proceeding that the Vault Dweller fixed the water pump at Necropolis, allowing the Ghouls to produce fresh water for the wastes. Then the Vault Dweller saved his vault, distributed powerful, ancient technology from the Glow amongst the people of the Wastes, became the first outsider to join the mighty Brotherhood of Steel, halted the looming threat of superintelligent Super Mutants, who would eventually destroy all humanity had rebuilt, finished off the insane cult-leader Richard Grey "The Master", and founded his own village.

The Lone Wanderer killed people in the Vault, killed people around Megaton, killed people in DC, killed people in the Wastes, killed people to get his father back, killed people to free slaves, killed people to get the GECK, blew up a military base, and then cowered behind Liberty Prime and the Lyon's Pride as they killed people, after which he went into a room, pushed some buttons on a computer, and died.

Is there any comparison?

I didn't really do the math here, like I said it was just a pretend soer of thing. Ok if it would make better sense then James is one of the CO's immediate family members from Arroyo: the child of that b.... aunt everyone hates...hell I'd run my butt to the other side of the country to escape that witch if she were my mother!! :ahhh:



That's an interesting idea, so basically VD is like Neo from the Matrix except somehow a natural reincarnation as opposed to a mechanically designed one.

Well there's next to no information as to VD's child/children, we don't even know how many he had. I guess the whole cousin of CO would be the least ridiculous if there needed to be a connection. :shrug:

In any case I just pretend they are all related for my own amusemant, it's not like the games can actually reflect this in any sort of way. I just like the concept of an entire bloodline of characters who saw and did things across the centuries and made an impact on those events, each somehow helping to shape the world the next generation would live and struggle in...sometimes I even include PCs from other games independent of the timeline or relation to Fallout; like an entire chronicles mirroring my avatars' dynasty throughout time. I thought about this waaaay too much I know... :facepalm:

But it's all in good fun :hehe: