ok so im trying to decide fo3 or nv for the pc (i have both for the 360) and i keep hearing all these people talking about how much time they spent in fallout 3... HOW there is only like20 something quest.do you just walk around or something? i dunnon, i guess mods too, but still how are you spending that much time in a game with only a few quest (comparied to oblivon/ nv)



edit: i think maybe im coming off as negative or somthing, i LOVE the game, im just currious how you can put so many hours in it,

yes there are only 17 side quest without dlc, i have played ALL the dlc's and they are great, but i feel like there is more content in the dlc's combined then there is in the whole rest of the game.(btw the alien dlc was the best )

According to http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_quests there are an even 100 quests with all DLCs installed. That's just a wee bit more than 20, and there's plenty of free-roaming fun besides those.

17 sidequest... im talking side quest here..


(dont take it the wrong way i love this game i just dont see how u can put that much time into it)

100? 20?

The official guidebook is hundreds of pages long. I didn't check the exact number of quests, but it seems likely there are more than 100, especially with the DLC included, and certainly FAR more than 20.

More importantly, there are different ways to play and develop your character, including doing various quests (or not, as the case may be).

As far as comparing to Oblivion (or Morrowind, too) I'd say that FO3 is about the same level of quests. However, it has much more custom content than Oblivion (much closer to Morrowind, actually). It offers much more exploration opportunity, or at least offers a reason to bother exploring.

I've played many hundreds of hours in Morrowind, Oblivion and FO3, by the way, so I can easily compare and constrast the content and replayability. All three are high in replayability, but FO3 probably has the largest amount of customized content that Beth has yet included in a game. They took some of the criticisms of Oblivion to heart, I think.

Fallout is more than "Bam! Quest is done. Next!" I've just hit over a hundred hours and I'm still finding new places to go, thanks to my explorers perk.

Hell, the subway under DC can easily take a whole afternoon to fully explore. And then there are reading the messages left on the computer monitors(Nuka Cola was a crooked company BTW )

And there is following people around and listening to what they say to each other. Some of the conversations are hilarious.

I've said it several times here on the forums and I'll say it again. You don't play a Bethesda game, You LIVE a Bethesda game.

i HATED the subway area, pain in the butt to travel anywere in dc because of it, but the game did a good job of making you want to explore, but still, u dont really find anything good when u explore so why do it

If you do not have the natural instinct to explore and you do not really feel like you are in the world you won't get it. I get into the game and feel like I'm really there and I just do it. Just like I used to roam for hours outside as a little kid on our 60 acre property where there wasn't much to find but stuff like, frogs, maybe something dead if I was lucky or some interesting plants. I do it because Beth has put cool little things to find around every map point and around every thing that isn't marked and because finding those little things is thrilling to me. I do it because when I'm in the game I do stupid things like compare the performance of every weapon against every other weapon or try to kill Deathclaws with a lead pipe or go defend BigTown from death by dressing them all up in Power Armor. The thrill of FO3 is making your own game out of it. Not waiting for the devs to give you something to do. Although I've played through all the quests gawd knows how many times and the DLCs too. Oh, and I tried to memorize all the metro tunnel system connections too. lol!

Wow, did that all sound stupid and sappy? I do love FO3 so much.

:) llama

Huh?

There are lots of good things you find by exploring. Might depend on what you mean why "good" though. However, there are locations, items such as Nuka Cola Quantum, weapons, clothing, etc. Not to mention skill books and bobbleheads! Even people, for that matter...

Not to mention the uniques that aren't quest related,

17 side quests/?Yes trophy related one's but there is far more non trophy quests and theres different playthroughs like maybe i'll help the enclave out by putting the f.e.v into the water or try out different buildes do the side quests differently of different karma or just explore i have about 800 hours.

Hahaha.
There is always a loot at the end of the tunnel. Unique weapons, special armors, little backstories that you can investigate yourself without the game actually having to give you a quest and walk you through it.

Fallout 3 is more about just exploring and doing random stuff than quest after quest gameplay(NV style)(both are good).
Most places to visit and explore are designed in a way that they are not connected to any quest but are there to explore,and they have stuff happening(for example the cannibal village).That is the purpose of the game-beside the quests- just walking around exploring,doing random stuff.The main part is doing whatever you want with a world created for that purpose.Not doing linear quests.

That is also the reason the main character is called a wanderer.(the lone wanderer)

Both games are equaly good NV and Fallout 3.Depends on the mood what you wanna play.

haha i remember the canible village, my problem is i felt like if i had the canninbal perk that i should have been accepted in lol, or that there should have been a quest focused around them, i didnt say i didnt like exploring i just hated the tunnel system

I spent A LOT of time with the game but for me it's played out. I'm playing the original Fallouts they're a ton of fun.

This might be true if the subway weren't just the same map repeating ad-nauseum. I [censored] hated having to go through there and HOPING the other side I came out of was near one of the map markers.

Basically, this is the great thing about Fallout 3, excellently summed up in one small sentence.

One of the great things about Fallout 3 is the complete open world. Doing quests is great, but if you just want to explore, then you can. You can try out different character styles, or impose rules on yourself for an extra challenge. Its this freedom that gives that game its longevity and accounts for the many hours spent wandering the Wasteland.

:fallout: 3

new vegas feels like a future red dead redemption in the beginning and then moves onto a casino vault exploring game with army wannabes who are actually corrupt and legions build off crazy tribals lmfao xD

but fallout 3 is alright but it's buggy but new vegas buggier!

but I need both for PC but they will probably still be bugs

:cookie: You earned it .Basically you can do what ever you want in :fallout: 3 which is the best thing about it but it also has a lot of side quests that can be replayed i'm 800 hours in and theres still quests i could do differently.

Right, been at this a long time, so I've got 2013 hours on 3 nice female fighters. Have never finished the game - got very close once, back before DLC came out, but reverted to an earlier save so I could continue wandering. Later on, bought the 'Game of the Year' thing and did all that except Zits - oops - Zeta. On my latest 383 hour character, Ody, she is still finding mega stuff that she's missed - ya just can't remember all this stuff, even with notes. This time she got both Alien pistols - like Wow! - never done that before. She loves to take out Enclave Outpost and is a bit of an expert at taking down their choppers. Play a straight up game with no big cheats - a few mods for female companions (I hate the Vanilla ones) just to mule the loot (and for their silly pvssyr). FONV - My game computer is off line and will remain so until it dies - so New Vegas doesn't work for me, does it? If all 'good' games go this way on DRM, I'm going back to fishing!

It's easy to spend all this time playing it, just wandering, doing quests and searching for EVERY location. I know I've got close to 80hrs (if not more) and I haven't found ALL of them yet. Sometimes I'll just fast travel to a spot I haven't been to in ages and go hunting. Fairfax Ruins can pose a fair challenge even at level 30. I said fair, you're gonna mop up the place yes, but there's a lot of enemy combat to be had there and one raider always has a missle launcher.

With all dlc I had 5 characters and over 2400 hrs of game play.

Fo3 was never boring. That really big map is filled with stuff that have nothing to do with quests. There are lots of things that try to kill you in fo3. I never fast traveled 1 time in fo3. I didn t look on wiki for cheating for like a year.

Bethesda knows what to do with an open world.

Obsidian doesn t so much.

I ll have over 1000 hrs in nv by the time I retire from it, but it can t match fo3 in stuff that needs looked at, cleared, searched.

nv couldn t match fo3 if it had 100 endings and another 15 quests.

I don t need quests to take up my time in a world like fo3.

Fo nv needs about 50 quests, and 37 endings, because there is nothing on the map worth looking at compaired to fo3.

If you like to actually fire your weapons fo3 will also crush nv in combat time.

Time away from thd story is where the hours are racked up in fo3.

That world is packed full of stuff. Nv well not so much.

I am just too curious so I explore the whole area even if it seems boring or too easy

It isn't the same every time. That's why they can be so confusing. Some have Raiders living in them, some have ghouls, there's the really long and twisty one with Mirelurks, there is one that has a room with something special in it that I still haven't found that I've only heard about, there's another one with a unique and a ton of loot, there's the one with Danielle's book in it, etc. I agree if they were identical it would be boring, but they aren't, and they take you to different locations so they serve a purpose as well.

There is a ton of stuff to do in fallout 3. Like go mutant hunting with a minigun and power armor in D.C.

I dont know about you but I'm not all about doing a quest immediately after doing another quest, I like to free roam, do some mods, and glitches! I have logged about a weeks length into my games, and I'm still entertained.