The only thing they ripped off from Fable was Peter Molyneux's propensity for promising things that never make it in the game.

As far as we all knew, this was a game feature.

It was reported by every reviewer up to actual release day.
They all parroted devs saying: 'oh, and you can influence economies'.
Some were honest enough to include in their review they found no semblance of it in their (test) version.
Most were not and simply aped what they were told.

So when you say up until release day that a feature is in the game and leave it to the first day purchasers to find out it actually is not, what does that make you?
A liar.

Its friggin Oblivion all over again.
Liars.

You can sabotage the economy. If you kill a shopkeeper or constantly make them broke they will have crappy items and less money, or close down. Todd Howard even said it was a light touch so don't go around with pitchforks because its not the main feature of the game.

If the Elder scrolls 6 goes down the path of lies like oblivion and skyrim I am not only giving it up but spending the rest of TES' days to direct people from buying it.
I want the feel of Morrowind back.

Well they ripped off marriage, obviously, but at least in Fable you could sleep with your wife and have children. You can't even hug your wife in Skyrim. You can't even brush your hand across her cheek gently...

Things like this is making me wonder why this game got such high reviews. Along with the rest of the hollow feel of the game

Guys, it's a conspiracy. Bethesda is nothing but a bunch of shady liars, no better than your common drug dealer.

Lol.

I realized a long time ago that web sites like Gamespot get paid off to give good reviews. How do I know? Because there was a fiasco not long ago where EA Games demanded a bad review for one of their games be taken down, and walah, it was gone. That company also sends out shills into places like Amazon to give great reviews, and if you say anything bad there, your review will be deleted. I don't have any doubt that most in the industry go down this path. There's few honest people left in the world, really.

But that is blatantly untrue.

You can buy from any shopkeep until they are broke, they will have the same 750 gp the next time they reset.

If you kill a shopkeep (if he isnt essential like 90% of NPC's seem to be) very rarely someone else will take over, most often you are left with an empty shop for the rest of the game.
Crappy items? No. Items are always scaled to my level. Vendors will have ebony when I get to level 40 ish, with no exceptions.

thats capitalism buddy. If you dont like it well there is no escape from it at all...Ah freedom

Not that that would help you much, now that they're comfortably snuggled in bed with Steam.

Yes, it is a life lesson that people best learn early.
Never, ever, ever trust reviews by people that get payed to make a review.
Always check what actual buyers have to say first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ne1fVhvL00


I should start making a list of all the threads I've found use for that video in.

Ah, eventually the economy will collapse and all hell will break loose. A system like this cannot last forever.

That reminds me...
Anyone else find that he also lied about the original characters being replaced by family members is only limited to a few people?
I find there was too much exaggeration about Radiant AI. It was good but the problem is that they build too much hype on things that don't measure up.

Shakespeare: "Cometh the revolution, first we kill all lawyers."

You know when you get given a project to do, or you set yourself a task, and you think to yourself, "I'm going to do all this awesome stuff in this, and it'll look great!". Maybe you'll talk to your friends about how your going to do this task, and you can envision how its going to look. Then you get about actually trying to do this thing, and discover that making it as you envisioned it is just an impossible task.

I imagine this is what happened here. And if you bragged to your friends about how awesome it was going to be, would you really want to let them know that it was just too much for you to handle? Not really.

I wonder who is the master, and who is the apprentice? Peter Molyneux, or Mr. Howard? Now you will experience the full power of the powdered deer peenus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVODm-OfkV0&feature=related

Oh I realize this but even the met score was insanely high on this game. Just seeing people talking about the game on different forums. I sometimes wonder if I am playing the same game they are. I just mentioned in another thread about how empty the game world is with generic NPCs, that us discussing things like this & why they ARENT in game, when it is almost 2012...says alot about the effort put into this game. Skyrim was dragon age 2ed basically.

I am still trying to figure out what this radiant AI thing is. Expect alot more considering the time & experience they had to work on this. Feels like an alpha staged fall out 3 game in a game of thrones graphical setting.

Why do people act like such babies every time something doesn't make it into the final game? It happens. A hell of a lot. You might not pay any attention to it, but it does. Time constraints, problems with implementation, just not working like intended..it happens.

Ah, why do I even try. You're just going to run around crying "liar, liar" at the top of your lungs like a spoiled child. You may now go about your regularly scheduled conspiracy thread detailing how you were screwed by Bethesda, Gamespot, IGN, the United States Government, the Mafia, and the Illuminati.

Yeah and maybe, just maybe, you then go: "were sorry guys. We tried, but we just overreached ourselves"
I would have been fine with that, I would have been on their side, because why? Because that is human.

But when you insist something is in the game right until last minute, when you let buyers find out it is actually not and when you then keep mum about the entire thing..
Liar. No respect for you.

To poster above: There is a huge, a huge difference between letting a fallacy run loose for sales sake and admitting you couldnt cut it to a loyal customer. The first treats me like a fool. People hate being made a fool.
The second? Hey youre a bloke just like me, maybe I dont mind it much.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/dragon-age-ii

Lol.

Also, can you please enlighten me as to the details of this "fiasco" with EA and Gamespot? Or, do you not have any details, and all you know is that some "generic EA game" got a bad review on Gamespot and the evil corporate Nazis known as EA had them remove it.

I remember back in the day when The Elder Scrolls had nudity. That's the mark of an ambitious game developer, if you ask me. Now how did we go from that, to this? I will never know.

People buy games for different reasons, some may have been on the fence about buying the game but feature C that convinced them to buy it. When said game is opened and played and feature C is no where to be found, well you have a right to question the reason.

Holy crap, are you guys crying while you type?

He's a "shady, puppet. liar"?

You ever think maybe he was just talking about something that ended up not making the final cut? Or some DLC or something?

Doesn't anyone have any real problems?