No further research is necessary. Caesar started out as a nickname, but for Julius Caesar it was a family name, he inherited it from his father who was also called Gauis Julius Caesar, and he passed it on to his adopted son Octavius.
Caesar didn't become a title until later

fun fact: in norwegian the word for emperor is KEISER, its pronounced very close to the latin spelling.

Au contraire. GAIVS-JULIUS was the name. He was already a distinguished member of the society.
But that has nothing to do with pronunciation... I'd like to keep OT. Please?
Cheers!

You are wrong Gaius was the praenomen, chosen by his parents. What we call the first name.
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The TRUE way of saying Caesar is actually Ch-I-Soar


Yeah man! You're ALL wrong!

She-eye-sore? Maybe she should take some ibuprofen and turn of the TV.

As long as you sing his name the way his soldiers did, it's all good:

Men of Rome, keep close your consorts, here's a bald advlterer.
Gold in Gaul you spent in dalliance, which you borrowed here in Rome.

Uhm.. Mixing (Merging) threads might not be the best move, after all.
Aside from the pronunciation issue, we now have a proper and nickname issue,
which is nonsense because CAESAR is a qualifier adjective. An addendum.
It's a title. It's not a name... It helps but it's not a nomen. And still, I could pronounce it differently,
but write it the same all these centuries along.
Cheers

It would be a title if Julius Caesar did anything to earn it, but he inherited Caesar from his family as he did Julius
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He did inherit JULIUS (of the JULII), but he claimed the title CAESAR, on his own.
It was a decision. A political one. A legal issue, if you search enough...
Cheers.

EDIT: and I was just interested in language and pronunciation.
Double cheers

Don't drag it out, say it quick. Shy-Sore! My previous example was terrible, IMO.

Just for you I reread Suetonius account of Jullius Caesar's life, no mention of him claiming Caesar for any reason, political or otherwise. He was born Caesar, he died Caesar. The first to have political advantage by laying claim to the name Caesar was Octavius

Triple cheers!

Kay-zar. I love the latin language.

This.

It's rather a long e (IPA: [e:])
ae and oe are both pronounced that way.

C is always pronouned [k] (Circus = [kirkus]) and qu is pronouned [kv] (five = quinque [kvinkve])


So it's rather just the "e" in "hey" rather than "ey" which brings an extra [i] which does not belong there.

IIRC there is no certainity for the origin of "Caesar". The most likely theory is that he just happened to be born with the name like so many other people on earth are just born with their names.

Pronouncing latin is quite difficult for an English speaker, I've observed. There are unnecessary "ah"s and "wah"s all over the place. "Ave" is a short, sharp and official greeting. The one with a more loose pronunciation would be "Sal[-ve][-te]" which is the more familiar greeting.

Does it really matter?

I say See-zer
They say Ki-Zar (Actually some of them also say See-zer)

At the end of the day this doesn't really warrant an intellectual debate, this is a word, spoken in an alternate timeline, in an alternate Dimension and finally, IN A GAME...

Seriously people get a grip, who's to say in their world Caesar wasn't pronounced "Yaaah-who-eeeee".
Lets not try and confuse the fictional with the 'real' TOO much mmkay?

I say See-sar as its the English lanuage that I speak and not Latin since its dead....though I am picking it up now and again
Si vis pacem, para bellum ! ( I believe thats the correct spelling and should mean If you want peace, prepare for war)

I go hardcoe russian and just call him Tsar

It isnt, Its Tse-sar, its a latin phrase.
"Ki-zar" is more like the german kaiser, which has the same meaning.

It's being mentioned because it's pronounced Kaisar in Latin and just like it's spelled in English. It doesn't warrant a debate in itself but there's other things in hand.

That the name is being spoken in an alternative timeline doesn't take away from the very real, historical and intellectual elements in New Vegas.

its pronounced "Harbuckle" with a heavy Boston accent

It's not dead. It's enjoyed by an enclave of people around the world, similar to Fallout 1 and 2. I'm taking Law and there is quite a bit of latin in there. Stare Decisis ,Quid Pro Quoand In loco parentis come to mind.

http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/moore/03/latin.html

It is dead, but some poeple enjoy using it. That wouldn't make it a language ready to be used by countires again. It is dead, but not forgotten.

Ki-sar is how you say it in Latin.

See-sar is English.

I'm surprised at how this thread has been 4 pages of wrong

It's pronounced 'fuh-ged-a-boud-it' in a heavy new york italian accent.