As long as it isn't shoving it in my face everywhere we go like in Dante's Inferno I'm fine with it. Would make sense to have naked dancers in at least some of the casinos, people have lower standards after the bombs dropped so I would actually expect it in the strip. But still if it wasn't there I wouldn't have a problem with it either, someone is going to make a nvde mod in about a week after it ships out anyway.

Not necessarily. Create wearable underwear, assign wearable non-lootable underwear with according texture to certain faction... Would work. Sure, it's extra work that would take some time, but in no way it's as big as developing different body meshes for different people.

To be honest I don't really care to much, but if it adds to the realism then I'm happy

I dont care, especially if the game is rated M. But then again I dont mind the everyone has underwear because its not like I really notice or care... I think what they do is fine, and alleviates any issues they would have over it if all the looted bodies in the game were completly nvde.

they won't put in nudity themselves, modders will have to do it like they did in oblivion and FO3.
any nudity will mean the game rating will be made mature, and hurt sales, so it won't happen.

In the US, at least, the game rating is Mature.

Yeah, I am pretty sure the game is (or will be) rated Mature in the US out of the gate. Fallout3 was as well. There are plenty of other reasons other than random boobage for a game to be rated M. Violence, subject matter, etc.

It would not stop you from being able to see the PC nvde so it wouldn't serve the purpose.

There are plenty of M rated games that not only have boobs on screen but keep shoving them into your face wanting a motor boat, such as God of War 3 and Dante's Inferno. Sure maybe a few years ago it would have been given an AO rating for the slightest nipble but now it's becoming more acceptable for M games to have some form of nudity. Also Fallout has and will get an M rating and it hasn't and won't hurt sales at all, in fact the most popular games these days are rated M so I don't think it will hurt sales. :fallout:

If it's in place, fits the environment, the situation etc., fine. I don't want some out-of place nudity that shows up like "look! This game is totally scandalicious!" Making the game more mature only for the sake of making it more mature is beyond me and appears more as immature. There are whole different game and movie genres for that. For games not belonging in those genres, innuendo is enough to get the point across.

It's alright for games to show the player character violently killing random people, long as they have clothes on. It's odd but so is our whole culture.

fo3 has nudity now due to mods fo new vegas will as well along with new cities gear weapons etc the geck is the bigest thing for fallout now i doubt there gonna get rid of it only reason ive beaten fo3 80 plus times is cus ive re played with diferent mods to get a new gaming expirence so if ya want nudity wait id give the modders a few weeks to come up with new skins or transfer some from fo3 if thats possible being a new game and all but youll get your naked fix eventually

I personally don't care. However, unnecessary nudity in games and movies makes them look extremely juvenile and awkward, so I'm definitely in favor of using it sensibly if at all. Nothing screams, "this game is for drunk, horny frat boys" like oodles of briasts flying everywhere for no reason.


While I agree that the bigger issue is parenting (censorship is only necessary with parents and the rest of society aren't doing their job raising the nation's kids), it's neither here nor there. As has been said multiple times in this thread already, it's a matter of money and has nothing to do whatsoever with morality. Crossing a certain line with your game's content can get your game banned from certain retailers, and bad PR (such as from purist parent groups raising a stink on the news) can cost you money. Not to mention the (albeit small) possibility of litigation. Developers have to decide whether adding the content in question does more to help or hurt the success of their game.

By the way, it's not CNN that is constantly demonizing the games and film industries, it's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU.


This is my thought as well.


I mostly agree, but the games industry has it a lot worse than the film industry does. At least film has been accepted by the general public as a medium for advlts as well as children. A large cross-section of Americans still views gaming as an activity for children, and they can't be convinced otherwise regardless of how the ESRB labels a game. For that reason there are people that will be up in arms anytime "advlt" content is included in a video game. Even though the game is clearly labeled as being for ages 17+ they'll still decry the game's corruption of our children, unfortunately.

I just signed up to add my two cents.

I feel that the way to go is the same as before. Namely, leave the nudity up to the modders. Adding nudity to the game is unnecessary, because the default bodies will most likely be replaced by modders anyway. Just leave the wastelanders in undies and let the players choose whether or not they want to add the nudity to their game.

I'm for games being as realistic as possible, which means in a game like this when you remove all clothes there should be nudity. There should be nvde dancers at the clubs too, if they have a stripper section... I don't want to see strippers in t-shirts and panties.

It should never be used for sixual titillation only though, like a companion who likes being naked or something.

Same as FO3 is fine.


Basic fact of the matter is that the US and it's markets have some strange attitudes (horrific bloody violence is fine, but Janet Jackson's nipble at the Super Bowl was traumatic :rolleyes: ). You may think it's silly, but game companies want their games to sell. To do that, they have to 1) be in stores, and 2) have no more than enough controversy to get free advertising, rather than enough to rally the mob of "moral guardians."

To answer the thread title "How should they handle nudity." They shouldn't. Really I wouldn't freak out and not buy it if there was, but I see no discernible purpose of it except for shock value. Body parts flying everywhere aren't necessary either, but at least it's humorous. Seeing my characters schlong isn't. Plus many people will freak out. Graphics are just too realistic these days. Plus, they'll have a reduced audience. A lot of parents are probably like my mother who realize that I'm not about to go on a killing spree just because my games are violent, but if she by some off chance saw the phrase 'Graphic Nudity' on the back of the box and she was still in charge of what I purchased, she would raise an issue with it because it's too 'pormographic'. Some stores may even stop selling it. Remember what happened to San Andreas? And that was just a [censored]in mod.

i agree. i mean, its vegas! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWiinstaRjo if they had strippers in Suran, then i dont see why they wouldnt have them in the strip somewhere. it just wouldnt make sence.

heres a way i can make my point. WARNING. THE FOLLOWING IMAGES ARE... KINDA NASTY

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M games have done it before. even bethesda has done it. i dont see what was wrong with the oblivion "underclothing" style (exept for the guy lol @ deiper)

Okay, but that's not nudity, they're just [censored]s. THAT'S the threshold. Fallout 3 had Nova and several other prosttutes. Fallout 3 even has skimpy outfits. It's the actual graphical representations of nudity that piss people off.

well said, my friend. well said.

Leave it to the modders. Demanding it wont mean it will appear.
Besides, Its pretty obvious Bethesda avoid this particular subject matter in all their (recent) games.

Guys that's a good way to infuriate people in threads like this. The only individuals campaigning for nudity here are console only players. If there are any PCs that have jumped on this band wagon then all i can say is... :facepalm:

Dude hate to say it but it would increase sales. It really would because it's rated m for mature. Witch means nudity doesn't have a backlash.
If they don't have nudity. There saying they want to sale to under aged kids. Rated m for mature games.

A lot of advlt gamers love nudity in games. So yeah sales are gonna be good
and besides most parents let there kids see nudity in movie anyway.


There's clothes it doesn't seen realistic


oh you mean lazy parents that have the TV do most of the work.

they should maybe put in some bare briasts but anything beyond is too far.

Umm, why is that? It's a matter of principal rather than post nuclear boobage. Each game that takes it further, brings the whole industry closer to more mature games. Sure, now it may seem cheesy, but future game developers will have their predecessors to thank.

Pffft, no it won't. That svcker got stripped of his job, banned from speaking out against several games, almost arrested for including gay porm as evidence that video games were bad, and made himself look about as sane as a man with a hole in his head.


As for the issue of nudity, there isn't really that much of an issue with it. A skimpy outfit is not a problem, as long as no parts are shown. In a game that has drug abuse, gambling, violence, swearing, more violence, slavery, and alcohol abuse, a little bit of nudity isn't going to get that many people in an uproar, as long as it isn't overly done (aka full on briast or crotch showing)