As we all know since Morrowind they are born with underwear on them apparently. Really ugly, sometimes brown, just plain disgusting default underwear that they give us grafted on to our skin. Do you think that they have handled it right or do you think they are completely avoiding the subject and simply blushing at the thought of it? Okay they don't want to allow it but these game doses have an M rating and has for a long time what is keeping them from pushing onward.

Personally I see it in a couple of things they could do better about it. Have an option to where in parental controls you can turn it off and actually change that nasty underwear. If the parental lock is on it should at least be counted as clothing and should be able to be changed without taking it off. GTA had an interesting way of handling it in there strip clubs all the stripers cover up their nipbles but all of them were stripped down to really skimpy out fits. Now I am not saying they should turn the game into a pormo I am saying they should make this a little more mature and less Disney. It is 2010 and the public looks at nudity in games in a much different form thanks to comedians who blasted all the critics for getting mad about it.

But anyway how do you seriously think they should handle it?

I'm fine with no nudity, honestly, and understand the sales reason. I just wish for raiders to not wear the same clean greyish stuff everyone wears. The rest is up to modders.

Personally, I don't care as long as the game plays well, but developers have to find a level that's acceptable in all their markets. FO3 originally had problems in Australia until Bethesda renamed morphine to Med-X. Nudity will get the Jack Thompsons here in the states in an uproar. Other countries have their own issues. Nudity or what to call an in game drug are the kind of details that strike me as inconsequential.

That is why we live in america and have our game prepaired for us and the Austrailans have a long track record of ridiclous censorship such as modern warfare and how you think your a pinyata with all the paper and cady flying everywhere. In my oppinon I just want to have the option or it be counted as cloths and us be able to change it. The jack thompsons can't do a thing about it. Thats why I love games like this, gta, mass effect that push the limits and inovate the real world and for that they go down in history.

It's not about morality, it's about sales. As I understand it, most major places in the US won't sell an AO rated game, which it would be if you could undress everyone everywhere with this closely realistic depiction of human beings.
Mass Effect does void this well because you never see a complete naked person, it's all just curves and allusions - very tastefully done so, if I might add.

Sales is what it's all about. It's not a US market, it's global. Also, Thompson wasn't able to do anything about it because he's a cartoonish figure. But you want to avoid having someone that's respected jumping on the anti-gamer bandwagon. Leave things as they are. The lack of nudity is not a game breaker.

I didn't say it was a game breaker and I did say I didn't want the game to turn into a pormo. I do not want the game to move from an M rating. DUH! I just believe that its current state reflects a deep neglection from us the fans and by the devs theirselves, who seem to be blushing by the thought of doing anything about it. But what was that old quote? six sales lol only joking about that part. Currently the anti-gamer’s's have lost they lost a long time ago back when halo came out. I thought that was obvious to everyone. Along with that change gamers are not really considered nerds just because they play games it is now more based on what they play.

Perhaps you should read http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/26/scotus.violent.video.games/index.html. No matter how the court decides, the fact that it made it there worries me.

Nudity in games is fine now. Rockstar continually puts it in their games. RDR recently just had a six scene in it.

Remember Fox News and Mass Effect? Imagine that, times over 5,000.

There should be nudity in this game.
Why you might ask because it's not call rated m for mature for nothing.
Because new vegas is well known for there strip clubs.
It's like having new vegas without casinos. You just have to have it in there.
There's always an option to turn it off.
New vegas ant new vegas without strip clubs having nudity.
I didn't wait till I'm 17 for nothing.

It's like having a movie without nudity. I mean you've watch the movie till it looks like you like the chick.
From there a little nipble action goes far for a movie and trust me the sales would sky rocked.
If it's about sales man a little nudity really helps. :hubbahubba:
Every video game and video that has a nudity always seems real.
It always has that taste you'll never get bored of.

Don't count on that lasting. All that's needed is a Prudes r Us of Orange County to get the ear of some influential politicians/consumer groups/et all and that could change very fast. I'm in favor of a low profile.

There's tons of games that have had it in the last few years though with no backlash whatsoever. Godfather 2 game has stripclubs with nudity and Saboteur came with an unlockable code for the same thing. I think topless nudity is at least acceptable in games now.

Yes mass effect had a fight and won so we could enjoy content like that. As far as im concerned it is none of there business what I spend my money on. The funny thing is you all want this proof enough that this kind of thing tops the top 100 on downloads and endorsmants on fallout nexus morrowind and such. So the sales are handled. A game like fallout attracts an older crowd anyway.

When games evolve out of this "b movie era" and become as serious as the film industry, yea, even full frontal will be acceptable. When all the industry has to offer is mindless violence, poor story and immature sixual content, it's pretty obvious to someone from the outside looking in that the targeted audience is teenage boys, and that's what upsetting serial tight-asses ("think of the children!" when we're not supposed to). It's odd, really, because teenagers hardly make the majority of gamers. Which only clarifies how the game industry views gamers. =\

As I said, I don't care. I'd just as soon get my violence from video games and my nudity jones in first person. You should never underestimate public opinion though. It can change things in a heartbeat. If the Supreme Court finds for California in that article I linked to, I'm not sure what the overall outcome could be. Up until now, games and movie ratings have been merely advisory. I haven't a clue what will happen if they become laws. It's not something I want to find out.

Waw that is bull crap there blaming video games for violence. I've played violent games ever sense I was 5 years old and I've never been in a fight. I've never thought about violence. All the kids I've seen getting in to fights where in mexican gangs or where getting beat by there parents or getting picked on by older kids or weren't getting love from there mothers. All the gamers I know or did know where calm not violent.
The reason they blame games and movies is because the lazy or abusive mothers don't want to get in trouble.
I'm tiered of CNN and it's propaganda.

I have a pretty good feeling that will be rejected, but the fact that it got that far is an example of what can happen. Because of that, I'm not in favor of pushing the envelope, at least for now.

just telling you the facts

I am not that bothered about in-game nudity. But it is nice to have flashes of skin, but it does not have to be out and out nudity. After all this is an advlt game.

Saints Row 2 had full nudity, but they done it quite tastefully. They just blurred out the rude bits, it would be funny to have a unique event where someone might streak past you tho.

I know what you mean, I was playing unreal tournament at the age of seven and I am not violent at all. The "Games make children violent" argument is down to over-zealous mothers who protect their children to the point of irrationality.
They are also worried that if children see boobies they will become six fiends or something

Nudity? In the game? No... :nope:
I think that's not a good idea...
Why? Because it could impact the sales,it could also make few people or few fans to protest this,and,in some cases,children COULD ALSO PLAY this GAME (not little toddlers).
Hey,to be honest,i don't want someone to be angry if i said this,but i hate nudity....
Well,the reason i said nudity isn't a good idea is not because i hate nudity,but the impact it will cause.....
Peace everybody :foodndrink:

Godfather 2 had topless women...

Anyways, I dont really care if Fallout has nudity or not. I would prefer it doesnt, but it wont stop me from buying the game.

I dont need nudity in games I may like it in some future universe as it is an issue of realism. But Vegas does not need to have naked strippers. It can get away with semi clad burlesque dancers (Or showgirls). By the way the movie industry is full of double standards. Take the Cooler a vegas casino set film. In it the was meant to be a six scene were William H Macy and Marai Bello have full frontal six. It went to panel of civilians to see what they did or did not like.
So what you end up with is full frontal for the woman and her cupping his crotch saying "well I like your dike". So as a straight man I find it ridiculous that people can be so offended by seeing something that at least half of us have. But not T&A and other parts of the female anatomy. So untill we stop acting like idiots and grow up nudity will always be focused on showing graphic female nudity, And force people to realise its teenagers getting immature kicks from it and come out against it on a moral stand.

agreed, I think Parents need to stop saying its Games are making children into homcidal six fiends. I went to Cali for some training, and everyday on the news was some sort of violents or sixual assult problem going on, I mean lets face it theres Violents going on all over the world, Terrorism, war,etc. Heck Nature is violent too, look at wildlife, animals kill each other it's normal (i blame disney for making animals look cute and talk, which ends up making people think "oh look a Zebra how cute) <--just a side note Zebras are mean as hell./ Sorry about the rabble, but lets face it, no one can censor the world