That looks pretty sweet. And dead simple!

Assuming they accept decimal values, that's as good as or better than a X/Y pixel-by-pixel location.

In my hud I have the KCHUDC elements to the left of the health/magicka/fatigue bars, which are to the left of the compass. Would
put them to the left of my compass or to the left of my other hud bars? Maybe there should also be a HUDhudbarsDefault/Left/Right option that references the vanilla bars (in addition to the ones you have that reference the previous tnoHSB bar).

I'm really looking forwards to the next release. To be honest, text doesn't matter at all to me - I like a clean HUD find text to be distracting, especially when I know what bars represent what info... I'm beginning to suspect that Pluggy with HUD is to blame for all the crashing I'm getting on my new computer, even though I never had a problem with it on my older machine. So the sooner I can dispense with it the better!

Thanks, and simplicity (while keeping good amounts of configurability) is the goal so I try hard to make it simple.

Yes, they do, they're floates. Btw, you may not know, but there is no pixel placement in the Oblivion xml. You can set exact x/y positions, but max x and y are the same (around 1200*1000) regardless of screen resolution.

Directly to the left of your compass, regardless of other possibly overlapping HUD elements.

Maybe. Note that HUDbarLeft and HUDbarRight will be relative to the standard bars until you have set up a bar with a different horizontal position, i.e. in my example, set tnoHSB.hud_x to HUDbarLeft is identical to what set tnoHSB.hud_x to HUDhudbarsDefault would do for that bar. It may still be useful to have those two additional values, both because it may be clearer what they do, and because that will allow you to refer the standar bars after having set some bars to different x value too.

I fully agree myself. Your HUD looks very much like mine, only the horizontal position differs, I have everything in the left corner; bars, weapon, magic, compass, but with the same simplicity.

One minor issue to report. I don't know if it's fixable, but if it can, then it should.

The left side of your bars look like this: [
The left of of the DarnUI bars look like this: <

The symbols are a representation, not the actual size or shape.

Thanks for reprting, I hadn't noticed. I believe I can fix it

HUD Status Bars 1.0 is finally released :celebration: :celebration:

HUD Status Bars has big depth but is very easy to use. Just install it (and OBSE+MenuQue if you haven't already) and start up your game. The immediate change will be an Encumbrance bar above your health bar, and a weapon charge bar that is only visible when you have an enchanted weapon equipped, above the weapon icon.


No text yet (waiting for new font functions in OBSE or an OBSE plugin), but still a complete rework of the mod:

* The bars can now easily be placed anywhere you want, with the size you want
As partially described above, and with detailed explanation in the ini, let you position the bar correctlty relative to your other hud elements very easily. See http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/34905-3-1286446100.jpg for some of the possibilities.

* The expressions for bar values can now be more advanced, making it possible to display much more with bars
You can now use object Ids or references, making it easy to make bars for things like health of companions.

* 3 additional colors (white, grey, black) added
What it says.

* No limit to number of bars
The image above has 16 bars added. I haven't tested it with more, but your screen will probably go full before you reach the limit.


Btw, I have also changed things to improve compatibility, so I am pretty sure that it is now compatible with any existing UI mod, including Nehrim - and with all other mods.

The new ini comes with two pre-made bars: An encumbrance bar that changes color from yellow to orange when your encumbrance is more than 40% of max, and a weapon charge bar above the weapon icon, that is only displayed when you have an enchanted weapon equipped. Here are how it looks with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/34905-1-1286446099.jpg and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/34905-2-1286446099.jpg.

Again, you're hard to keep up to. Nice to see I can have all the bars I want now, and put them anywhere. I hope you keep working on the text part though, for a number of things I'd prefer to just have words and numbers showing on my screen.

1.0 actually has the code for displaying text, it is just not documented. I wasn't content with the available fonts, so I chose to not make it availble until I either get a good solution to the font problem (with help of OBSE).

Many thanks for the new release - really appreciate all the hard work you do and your incredible responsiveness to requests.

Am I correct in assuming that the "Replace the # with correct bar number" mentioned in the INI file is no longer relevant or am I missing something?

I'm having a problem with the bars, all of them, even the default ones you provided for weapon charge and encumbrance, seem to be "linked" to the player's current health. The bar only displays the correct value if the player is at 100% health, and any harm to health is reflected into all the bars as well.
My best guess is that its because of some faulty call to an undefined variable in the script to display the bar info that is then passed as ActorValueCode 0 (Health), but since your scripts are light years ahead of what I can understand, it probably is much more complicated.

Is there a way to unlock the text ability in the current version then? Something I can add to the ini file maybe? I'd like to at least try out the fonts that are currently available to see if there's anything that will work. With a screen display of 1920 x 1200, I can get away with alot as far as onscreen text is concerned.

There's one thing I'd like you to confirm for me, actually a couple of things. I've just made bars for each of my attributes. I don't know how many times one of them would become damaged somehow and I wouldn't know about it until I happened to look through my menus for some reason. I have the bars as green if both the actor value and the base value are the same, but I'd like them to show up as red if there's any sort of difference. Looking at your Encumbrance bar I'm think that "1+1*(tnoHSB.frac<1.0)" should do the trick. Would that equation work? This is one thing I'd really like to have text for. It would look alot neater if I could just have something like STR: 50/50 showing on the screen instead of a bar. It would also be easier to see which attribute has been damaged.

Also, in your example for the Vampire bar, does that indicate to the player that he/she has simply contracted the disease or will it only kick in when I become an actual Vampire? I'd really like to be able to see whether I've contracted the actual disease before it fully takes hold, so I can take a Cure Disease potion or get cured some other way. I really have no desire to become a Vampire, but it's so easy to miss that message when you're in combat.

BTW, I really like your positioning commands. It makes it so easy to create and position groups of bars on the screen. All I have to worry about is the very first one, and the rest just follow in order with the right commands.

PS:

OK, something's not working right. This is the code I have for the first bar:

; ===================  Status Bar 3													set tnoHSB.hud_color to sv_Construct	"1+1*(tnoHSB.frac<1.0)"			set tnoHSB.hud_val to sv_Construct	"GetActorValue Strength"	set tnoHSB.hud_max to sv_Construct	"GetBaseActorValue Strength"			set tnoHSB.hud_ref to sv_Construct			""			set tnoHSB.hud_min to sv_Construct			""	set tnoHSB.hud_v_adjust to 					0	set tnoHSB.hud_h_adjust to 					0	set tnoHSB.hud_size to						50	set tnoHSB.hud_x to							99	set tnoHSB.hud_y to							15	SetStage tnoHSB 10 ; Init status bar 3

I have a one for each of my stats, yet all they're doing is showing my character's health. I just got into a battle and all of my new bars dropped at the same rate as my Health bar whenever I took any damage. What am I doing wrong here?

HUD Status Bars 1.0.1 is now available

The changelog is very simple:
* Fixed a bug that made all the bars shrink when your health dropped :banghead:
Sorry for the inconvenience.

You only really need to replace one of the files in the Menus folder, though I uploaded a full new version.

Aah, that would explain it. Thanks.

Just wanted the previous post out fast, now answering time...

Yes, you're correct That was just some garbage I had overlooked - I removed it for 1.0.1. Thanks for reporting.


Thanks for reporting. Your guess was completely wrong, but that's OK

The actual problem was that the xml file was a bit too smart for its own good. Instead of assuming anything about UI mod and bar sizes, it read the size of the bars from the health bar. That was perfectly fine for the background and the edge images, but evidently not for the actual bar image, as you saw. So instead of reading the bar width/height directly, it is now instead the correct fraction of the bar background.


I will look into it. I must probably update a few lines in the code to re-enable it though, so maybe a 1.1 beta version.

Yes, that equation seems fine. If you instead want to hide the bar when the values are the same, you could change it to "2*(tnoHSB.frac<1.0)".

Yes, I certainly see your point.

Only when being an actual vampire. I am not sure if there is a function that can tell if the vampire disease is contracted. If there is, it will be easy to create a bar for it. Anyone?

Thanks. That 's what I really tried to accomplish.

After that quick fix, I must say this is yet another mod I'll never do without from now on. The best part is that customizing the .ini is also a lot of fun, and forces me to see how other mods work too if I want to use their variables.

Sorry for letting my imagination go wild again, but how about an option to flip bars between vertical and horizontal positions? Or is that just insane?

Finally, this one is a little out of context, but if you are considering future projects, how about unlocking the maximum number of active effects displayed in the HUD? Currently only 8 can appear, no matter what UI mod.

Well that would certainly be an option if there were text along with the bars, but right now I need to have all of them showing. If one gets damaged, I need to be able to count them in order to find out which one needs repairing. I've placed them in the order that they appear in my F1 menu. Or would it be possible to simply have 1 bar that added up all the attributes and only showed if there were any sort of discrepancy in any of them? I tried that with Kuertee's HUD mod, but having such an involved calculation would crash the game.



I did come across an OBSE function that was supposed to show you if you were diseased or not, but I couldn't get it to work with Kuertee's mod. I don't remember if it gave any specifics about which disease it was though, it may have just been a general thing.

PS: Actually I think will go for having the bars disappear when equal. It's not ideal right now without the text option, but at least I'll have some sort of warning without having my screen getting too cluttered. At least I'll know that something's not right, even though I won't be sure what it is.

Quick question. would it be possible to display the health and spell points of summons when they are present? If so can anyone point in the general direction of what variables I should be looking for. Nice job Nice One yet again. You may yet end up inspiring this unemployed programmer to do some modding for Oblivion.

Edit: Activating the Mod in OBMM gives the following error in the script:

"Invalid argument to function 'DontInstallDataFile' File "hud.jpg" is not part of this plugin on line 5"

This doesn't seem to be breaking it however.

So I can't seem to get your Real Sleep Extended to show a bar with this. I have version 2.5 and this is the entry I have for it in the HUD ini, but nothing is showing up in the game:

; ===================  Status Bar 11													set tnoHSB.hud_color to sv_Construct	"RSE.sleepColor"			set tnoHSB.hud_val to sv_Construct	"RSE.sleepVal"	set tnoHSB.hud_max to sv_Construct	"RSE.sleepMax"			set tnoHSB.hud_ref to sv_Construct			""			set tnoHSB.hud_min to sv_Construct			""	set tnoHSB.hud_v_adjust to 					0	set tnoHSB.hud_h_adjust to 					0	set tnoHSB.hud_size to						50	set tnoHSB.hud_x to							1	set tnoHSB.hud_y to							15	SetStage tnoHSB 10 ; Init status bar 11

PS: Never mind, it finally showed up. I had just updated to 2.5 so I guess it just took a bit longer to kick in.

Since Wrye Bash 288 isn't working properly right now and reverting back to 287 didn't fix the introduced (?) errors, I tried installing 1.0.1 with OBMM and got this error:

Error in Script
invalid argument to function 'DontInstallDataFile'
File 'hud.jpg' is not part of this plugin on line 5

Probably not possible, since summons (and all spawned critters/NPCs, which are non-persistent references) get temporary references when created and those references get reused when they become available. HUD bars would only work for companions because they're persistent references (their IDs never get reused).

So my new attribute bars work very nicely alongside your Real Sleep mod. I wanted to see how your bar would come in once I was tired, and all of a sudden all my attribute bars kicked in as well. It will be really easy to see now when I'm tired enough to start taking penalties. :goodjob:

I was afraid something like that might be the case.

Nice work, NiceOne. Very, very impressed with the simplicity and power of the HUD engine you've made.

I'm getting things set up the way I like them but I'm having a problem with fine-tuning the position of the bars under the weapon and magic icons.

set tnoHSB.hud_y to HUDmagicBelow

puts the bar immediately below the icon, as in touching it. I'd like to have a little space between the icon and the bar, and even more with the one under the weapon icon because of the weapon durability bar that's included with DarNUI. I tried HUDmagicBelow + 1 (or more) and HUDmagicBelow - 1 (or more) but the results are wierd and seem unpredictable, even with decimal values... I also tried using tnoHSB.hud_v_adjust but any value I use seems to bump the bar right off the screen. Should I be using the sv_Construct syntax with either of those commands? I haven't tried that yet, and won't until tomorrow at this point. I suppose I could use a generic "= 98.2" type of value, but that seems to defeat the purpose of being able to line things up relative to other things.

If you're taking requests for v1.1, I have one: custom alpha. I've got my DarN hud with less than full alpha so the new bars really stick out. A general alpha setting for all HSB bars would be fine, but if they had the ability to darken/brighten with changing values, like the colour can change, that would be awesome!

Finally, a very minor bug report: using the included enchanted weapon charges bar gives "weapon set to blahblah" spam in the console, even when tnoHSB.debug == 0.

Thanks for comments and interest everyone

That would be relatively easy. I need to create new texture files for the vertical bars, but that's easy, so I'll put it on the list of future additions - maybe together with "bars" that look completely different - like circles maybe?

I'm not sure if it's doable, but I can look into that part of the xml and check.



The crash was due to a general Oblivion engine bug, that crashes the game if one compiled line of code takes up more than 73 bytes, and this happens both for ini lines like this, and proper script lines. But there's a solution, from OBSEv19b4 readme:
-Fix potential vanilla buffer overrun when parsing commands entered at console (so-called '73-byte bug')
I haven't tested it myself, but since the HUD expressions use an OBSE command that simulates that they are entered at the console, I guess longer calculations will work from OBSEv19b4.

It is currently not possible, as HUD Status Bars checks that the reference is valid at startup, and will disable a bar if not. But there's really no problem removing that check, and instead add the check everytime the script updates the bar (and hide the bar if the reference is not valid). So I will probably add that with the next update. If so, something like this would probably work:

set tnoHSB.hud_ref to sv_Construct "GetNthActiveEffectSummonRef ###"set tnoHSB.hud_val to sv_Construct "GetAV Health"set tnoHSB.hud_max to sv_Construct "GetBaseAV Health"set tnoHSB.hud_color to sv_Construct	"HUDcolorYellow"

...where ### is the summon number. I have never used GetNthActiveEffectSummonRef myself, so I have no idea if this really works, but I guess it may work, with 0 for ### to display your first summon, and 1 to display the second (if you have a mod that allows multiple summons). The bar will then be automatically hidden if you have no summon.

Thanks. That scriptline only tells OBMM not to install a file, so it isn't a problem that the file isn't there. I will remove that line from next version of the install script.



Using things like "HUDmagicBelow + 1" will not work, since "HUDmagicBelow" is just a constant (3007), and 3008 happens to be the "HUDcompassAbove" above constant.

This is exactly what "tnoHSB.hud_v_adjust" was supposed to be used for (set it to 2 or something like that to move it slightly down), but I must admit that tnoHSB.hud_v_adjust got least testing of all settings, so it may be bugged. But when I get the time, I intend to finetune the above/below settins so that they get a nice space automatically. Thinking of it, I think I will add two new general settings:

	set tnoHSB.above_icon_gap to 2	set tnoHSB.below_icon_gap to 2

Those setting will then move all bars that use ...weapon/magic/compass - Above/Below positions the set amount down (or up if using a negative value).


I will add this.

I have noticed this myself. Unfortunately, it is out of my control, as it is the RunScriptLine "..." itself that generates it for that line only. I have no idea why, but I will ask in the OBSE thread. Maybe they can supress it as they do with other RunScriptLine expressions.

If they cannot, I consider making the equipped weapon a special usable ref for the expressions, that any hud bar expression can refer to like this:

set tnoHSB.hud_max to sv_Construct	 	"GetObjectCharge ref_equippedWeapon"				; Get object charge (max charge) of the currently equipped weapon.

It defeats the general purpose of the mod, but may be worth it to avoid the console spam. I consider adding some other useable special refs like this, like:
* ref_equippedWeapon
* ref_currentEnemy
* ref_currentSummon
...but that's a bit ahead.

See my thread here about kuertee's battle fatigue? Any chance of having that type of HUD icon?

I'm also getting strange behaviour with these new bars - as my health goes down, everything else scales with it! That ain't no good
edit: Hang on, I missed a new release. You are hard to keep up with, ever considered an RSS feed?