I don't know how i feel about this. I feel that making the real world physics realistic (the way things that TES and the "Real World" share like gravity, inertia, physical reactions to being hit etc) adds to immersion, but this might be going to far

If this were in I would like to see something like a buoyancy spell like i mentioned in the poll above. Walking on the ocean/river/lake floor could be pretty cool, but having to leave your equipment on the water's shore might prove dangerous (with radiant story, someone might just steal your stuff)

now i know some of you are gonna say (there's magic/dragons so things don't have to behave realistically), but lots of people (as well as i) simply disagree with this argument. what I want to hear is whether people think this would ruin the game, make swimming too unappealing, or if people want it and whether or not it would add to immersion.

Any building on, or picking apart of this idea is what i want to see to make my opinion on the matter.

Also, I know this is most likely either in the game already or it's not, so this is all purely speculative/ for fun.

NO, NO, AND NO, it makes no sense, its not even a valid option, there is no arguments, there is no replys, and there wont be, BECAUSE N00000.

I suggest you add the equivalent weights in kilograms for the numerous people that use this, people won't take the time to convert.

Maybe add an option for people who think weight limit should be stats dependent? I think a bulky nord warrior would have an easier time than a weak wizard.


I personally think this would be more of an annoyance than anything else, unless the weight limit is high enough and looking for a bridge or a fording isn't a pain in the ass.

The valid argument is that it works like this in reality, so yes it does make sense. whether or not that argument is good enough to change the whole system of swimming is a different matter.

Maybe the possiblities of "hyper-realistic" swimming would be more luring if there was actually a reason to swim / go into the water. If I will spent approximately 1% of my time in Skyrim swimming / diving like in Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion why bother?

I want see my hands when swiming!!!

done.

Not very fond of the idea of hyper realistic swimming. Being underwater is a [censored] already.

I feel that when you surpass your carry weight, you should also not be able to swim. So overencumberance = no swim.

good idea for the "critical limit". I added it to the poll.

If they bring back ice-armor from solstheim, you should float all the time.

Don't want "hyper-realistic" anything.

I don't like to play simulations, I like to play games.

No I would not like this at all.

I don't understand. so nothing should be as it is in reality? should gravity not exist too? what about the way an enemy reacts to getting hit? where do you draw the line?

Just have weight affect buoyancy. The more you weight, the faster you sink, and the more you need to direct your swim vector upward. Carry too much, and you won't be able to stay afloat anymore - better sink to the bottom and walk the seabed chewing down water breathing potions. But you'll be slower than when swimming, and coldness factors are what makes you want to not stay in water for too long.

You need stamina to keep swimming, and you may trade in stamina for more powerful swim strokes, just as with sprinting.

The point being that even as an expert swimmer, you'll suffer penalties by carrying too much - but not in the form of an arbitrary fixed limit. The same would apply to jumping. An acrobat may be able (in fantasy game) to jump a few meters from standstill, but only if he's actually dressed like one. Carry 100 kg (200 lbs) of equipment, weapon, and armor, you'll be lucky to jump a meter (yard).

Oh, this is adding game mechanics elements from real world physics. Hyper realism would be if you could only jump 1.5-2m from a standstill for a master in acrobatics.

Eh, this idea, as a "Hyper-Realistic" feature is kind of flawed... maybe more of a percentage of your encumbrance? Or perhaps just as simple as "you are wearing X / heavy armor, you will sink".

I'm all for "hardcoe" or realistic features. But this idea needs some more development, as it is, before I'd say I'd want to have it. :shrug:
Assuming there will be a "hardcoe" setting.

Thanks for posting your idea, OP! :yes:

I love hyperboles!

i think the jumping should be made a little more realistically as well, as long as you can grab on to ledges...

i needed to use a hyperbole to make my point. There might be a point when things become too realistic, but it's hard to say where that point is.

Grabbing onto ledges would be a great addition, instead of the moon gravity jumping... i mean, without something to the effect of magic fortification of acrobatics or something similar.

also you shouldn't be able to change direction in mid-air IMO.<-- this is the only way to make jumping animations look real, and with a better jumping system (ledge grabbing and such) i would love this in Skyrim

This again eh? No.

I generally like this idea. Might make Argonia ability more powerful. They do have the physics engine that could make you sink gradually more and more as you have more weight. Course this could change gameplay a lot with the grottoes. "Walking along on the bottom of a a beautiful blimey sea."

Not a fan of the entire idea, at all.
There's a thing called "realism" and "immersion", and there's a thing called "bloody annoying". This falls under the latter.

I like the idea of realistic weight in water, but it's one of those things where Beth would need to use the full extent of their godlike wisdom and perfect judgement to balance everything out just right.

Something I'd love to see that wouldn't affect gameplay too much is currents. In the past two TES games, that's been the thing that bugged me: the Niben is the largest river in Tamriel, but you could swim straight across it.