Hypothetical: Dovahkiin vs Nerevarine vs CoC

Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:35 pm

I second this. His meeting with Vivec gave me chills.

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Calum Campbell
 
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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:03 am

just so everyone knows, The Nerevarine (Possibly) needed the help of Vivec if he (the Nerevarine is canonically male) wanted to use that gauntlet of his safely.

The CoC needed the Help of the Nine Divines to defeat Umaril the Unfettered for good, and the help of the MadGod Sheogorath/Jyggalag to stop the greymarch, led by the same guy.

The LDB needed the help of an elder scroll (I divine tool) to defeat Alduin, and the "help" of Herma Mora to take down the First Dragonborn Miraak.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:54 am

If you really want to get into that, then the Dragonborn wouldn't be able to catch the Nerevarine, even with Slow Time. Boots of Blinding Speed and/or 100+ Speed/Athletics > Slow Time + Sprint.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:00 am

Cyrodiil because he could run backwards at superspeed while shooting arrows into Dovakiin

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Post » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:47 pm

Again, we do not have any clue what they character classes are, so they are all everything at the same time.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:49 am

oh? i wasn't aware you could fairly compare those two abilities to draw a definite conclusion...

how do you know slow time wouldn't overpower boots of speed and vice versa? you don't

also, whirlwind sprint would have a similair effect

also, that, whilst it's almost certain the LDB would have access to most/all shouts, it's not certain that the nerevarine possessed X item

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:20 pm


The LDB doesn't have access to all of the shouts, there is nothing stating the LDB was the one who did all of the guilds and quests in skyrim, only the main quests.
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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:10 am

Even if he did have this, that affects foot speed, not arm speed or spell speed, so at most he'd run away. Dovahkiin could still strike him first or dodge his attacks.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:24 pm

We know the Nerevarine still holds at least Wraithguard and Sunder...

Still. The Nerevarine could, being all things in lore, could assassinate the LDB before he/she can catch him/her.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:35 am

Nerevarine.

He is a Demi-god, has Silence Spells witch would render Thu'um useless. And I am sure he has picked up some valuable techniques all his time in Akavir.

Not to mention, depending on how you interpret the Prophecy, Nerevarine may have been a Dragonborn as well.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:49 pm

Slow time, and nerevarine isn't canonically a mage.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:01 pm

and Dragonborn doesn't Canonically know every word for every shout ;)

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:28 am

just because certain dungeons weren't accessible without guilds, doesn't mean he couldn't access them, it's not like you HAVE to be a thief to get in, lorewise

also, to people saying nerevarine has spent time in akavir learning [censored] ect, the LDB has the backing of herma mora (for now)..alotta forbidden knowledge in there, including a plethora of shouts (probably)

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:07 am

No, but the ones he does know are devastating. Storm call, bend will (may or may not affect nerevarine) Durnehviir, Odahviing, Fusrodah, whirlwind sprint. Those are canon and would devastate him.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:53 am

that would be cheating?

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:42 am

the assassination thing could surely work both ways, unless i'm missing something (nerevarine and all things related isn't exactly a strong point of mine)

edit:

that would be cheating?

what do you mean?

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:47 am

and still, no canon class=all PCs being all things at the same time, so the Nerevarine could kill the LDB without any fight.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:57 am

Uh...no that isn't how it works.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:18 am

It is just as valid, as again, THEY ARE NOT CANONICALLY ANY CLASS!

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:59 am

As much as I love the Nerevarine. I'd have to say the Dohvahkiin, since you said not to include post Shivering Isles COC.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:56 am

exactly, so it's better to disregard it completely

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:36 am

If they're not any class then we cant consider ANY ABILITY UNLESS WE KNOW THEY HAVE IT.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:44 am

Too bad Colonel can't see that without a canon class, the characters can be anything, and thus are everything at the same time.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:02 am

@Stoneguard, by your logic, the dovahkiin gets all shouts including slow time because he canonically doesn't have all so we can assume he has all and has done every quest. Again, by your logic.

Too bad that isn't what he was saying and doesn't make a lick of sense.

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Post » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:55 am

That is the point. We have no clue what the skill set is, so we HAVE to consider all situations.

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